Replacing Panny Lens

[RogerandOut]

Is there a way to remove the Panasonic lens, install a threaded mount, and then attach cinema lenses?

[Nathyn]

Sure, it's called breaking the camera.

-Nate

[FatBird19]

Sure, it's called breaking the camera.
-Nate

you forgot to add, "voiding your warranty, flushing $6K down the toilet."

[RogerandOut]

Come on guys. I know all that stuff. I am wondering how feasible it is to do so.

The Andromeda guys seem to have no problem 'voiding the warranty'.

I have never needed to use the warranty on any electronics device, video camera or otherwise.

[David G. Smith]

Come on guys. I know all that stuff. I am wondering how feasible it is to do so.

The Andromeda guys seem to have no problem 'voiding the warranty'.

I have never needed to use the warranty on any electronics device, video camera or otherwise.

I would knock on wood, throw salt over my shoulder and rub a rabbits foot real quick for that statement. :cry:

I have read of individuals replaceing the lenses on pro-sumer video cameras, but they were highly skilled individuals with long experience doing camera modifications. I think that you would get into a situation where it would be cheaper to wait for the $20K-$30k 2/3" DVC-PRO HD camera that is sure to follow the HVX.

[Barry_Green]

http://www.eidomedia.com/hdv/

[RogerandOut]

here are the still images of the construction

http://www.eidomedia.com/hdv/day2/day2.htm

i wish i knew how to do this stuff.

[RogerandOut]

here is a DIY home 35mm adaptor test shot clip
http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/video/HolyZoo35_Test1.mov

[FatBird19]

wow....i give major kudos to anyone who can pull-off that crap. :D

[RogerandOut]

http://www.eidomedia.com/hdv/

for shallow DOF with small chips...you can zoom in from a distance, but that leaves you with a limited coverage shot, right?

[Barry_Green]

Well, depends on what you mean by that term. What zooming in does is limit the amount of background that's in the shot... is that what you meant?

[Nathyn]

My advice: If this cat can do this and I really wanted an HVX with this kind of lens, I'd send my camera to him and let him do it. If I had money to burn I'd be cool but I'd freak out over either doing something like this or letting someone do something like this to my DVX less on doing it to a $6,000 HVX. I will admit there is something very cool about being able to do something like this.

-Nate

[thisiswells]

Those guys who tricked their Z1 were probably camera tech's with a lifetime of experience who knew what they were getting into. And, perhaps had practiced the procedure on countless other cheaper cams before attempting to mod a brand new Z1.

I think there was a guy who tried this a month or two ago on his DVX and totally trashed it! Not only did he scratch his original lens, he bent a small wire pair which ruined one of the three CCD's which facilitated the need for an entire replacement CCD block at the cost of $900, and then we never heard back from him...

Anyways, GOOD LUCK !

[FatBird19]

I think there was a guy who tried this a month or two ago on his DVX and totally trashed it! Not only did he scratch his original lens, he bent a small wire pair which ruined one of the three CCD's which facilitated the need for an entire replacement CCD block at the cost of $900, and then we never heard back from him...


That's really funny!....in a sad sort of way. :D

[mezelf27]

Perhaps better get the JVC and buy the adapter for any lens you need - or even make an adapter for the kind of lens you'll like to use. Seems a lot safer :-)

[harddrive]

It would seem more sensible just to buy an interchangeable lens camera (Canon XL or JVC HD100) in the first place, or does that spoil the fun? ;) The advantage would also be that it would handle properly balance wise.

[RogerandOut]

those cams are not full HD are they?

I don't want mini-DV, or HDV.

[Barry_Green]

Any of these cameras can be "full HD", provided you don't actually record on them! If you use the HD-SDI output from the Canon, or analog component output from the others, you bypass compression completely and get an HD-compatible signal.

It won't rival the signal you'd get from a $50,000 camera, of course, but at least it won't be compressed HDV.

[RogerandOut]

What do you record the HD-SDI output to or on?
The firestore recorder?
'It won't rival the signal you'd get from a $50,000 camera, of course, but at least it won't be compressed HDV'

Would it have the same information output by the HVX-200 in HD mode?

If that SDI signal is uncompressed...wouldn't that require a HUGE amount of storage capacity?

How would you get that SDI footage into Final Cut Pro HD?

[high8]

What great big balls you have.. I wish I could afford to cut and disassemble my cameras.

Impressive.

[Barry_Green]

What do you record the HD-SDI output to or on?
Well, that's the question. The answer is: a lotta money. You could get a $40,000 HDCAM deck, or a $25,000 DVCPRO-HD deck. Or you could build a computer with a LaCie RAID; that'd be the cheapest option but still going to set you back several thousand dollars.


Would it have the same information output by the HVX-200 in HD mode?
If you sent it to a DVCPRO-HD deck, then uncompressed HD-SDI recorded by the deck would probably be quite comparable to the HVX's recordings; but that's just format only, that doesn't include whatever differences would be encountered due to lens, chips, sampling, DSP, gamma curves, etc. I would expect that the Canon glass will be better than the HVX glass, but I don't know if the rest of the imaging chain will hold up. I'm sure John Hudson will be happy to explain why! ;)


If that SDI signal is uncompressed...wouldn't that require a HUGE amount of storage capacity?
Sure it will. A gigabyte goes by in five seconds.


How would you get that SDI footage into Final Cut Pro HD?
Don't use FCP so I don't specifically know. I'm sure a Kona card would be involved though.