View Full Version : HVX compared to the DVX
microsupercosym
10-08-2005, 01:12 PM
On a monitor, shooting standard def on the HVX, can you speculate that there will be a significant increase in picture when compared to the SD output of a DVX ? In other words, I plan on buying the HVX but upgrading to P2 later, will I still get the same if not better quality than the DVX ?
Also, If I were to shoot in DVCPRO HD 1080 24P, would I be able to monitor this footage via my Sony DSR-11 deck and Sony SD monitor or am I going to have to do a complete overhaul ? Or can I just downconvert? Will we see any improvement in picture if one were to shoot DVCPRO HD and downconvert to miniDV or would it be just like shooting miniDV.
Hmmm, so many ways to do business. I guess you could really shoot in HD but edit in SD and convert back up to HD once you could afford it, your project goes to the networks or gets converted up to film. Either way I'm sure it all will make better looking DVDS and internet movies
thanks
sorry for the sporadic questions, i have a lot of random ones that im sure wont be answered until Santa comes
mezelf27
10-08-2005, 04:36 PM
Yep, you would: especially if you want to shoot 16/9 SD. Furthermore: the HVX seems to be a lot less noisy then the DVX, so that aspect of the picture might be better also...
alldridge
10-08-2005, 07:41 PM
Yeah, it should produce EXCELLENT down-rezed SD too especially if you are shooting 720p.
Since 720 is anamorphic being 960x720, it's an exact 2:1 ratio to SD 480p being 720x480. This exact 2:1 downsizing should be VERY sharp since it doesn't have to conform 5 pixels to 3 or some other odd downsizing where fake "in between" pixel are interpreted.
The JVC's 1280x720 HDV image may have more pixels, but for downsizing to SD, the HVX's anamorphic will look much sharper.
Jaime Valles
10-08-2005, 08:06 PM
I would definitely go with the HVX. There are authorized dealers here already taking pre-orders for the HVX for only $5500!!! Native 16x9 widescreen, plus the ability to go HD or DVCPro50 later on.
Spec-Comm
10-08-2005, 08:50 PM
Hello microsupercosym,
Some of our customers are getting the HVX200 and just using the DV deck for a while. They felt that the difference was significant enough to do so. Another really handy feature is P2 dubbing. You can still get the P2 card package, shoot in 720p or 1080i and then dub whatever you shoot from P2 to the DV deck. It does all of the down conversion for you.
Give us a call if your interested in pre-ordering. :thumbsup:
Andrew Hoffman
Specialized Communications Corp.
20940 Twin Springs Dr.
Smithsburg, MD 21783-1510
800-359-1858
Fax: 301-790-0173
andrewh@spec-comm.com
www.spec-comm.com
microsupercosym
10-08-2005, 08:51 PM
So are you saying that shooting DVCPRO HD 720P then downrezzing to SD will look considerably better than shooting regular 'ol DVCPRO50 ? If so I think this will be my route for a while until memory drops , shoot 720 HD, edit in HD then finish on SD
one thing I thought of, how are people planning on delivering their HD projects ? That is if you're not going out to film or an HD deck. I guess shooting 1080 or 720 then going to regular DVD-Rs will look pretty damn good when compared to what my current kickass DVX can do now
sweet jesus I cannot wait for this camera
Joe94
10-08-2005, 10:13 PM
Just look at how much better movies in your dvd colection look compared to any of the footage produced by a DVX and then ask the same question. Of course it will look better.
MovieSwede
10-09-2005, 02:17 AM
It doesnt look better becuse it was HD from start. It looked better because it had great lightning, great acting, great framing etc and that it was shoot on a 100 000$ camera with a 20 000$ lens.
DVDs donīt benefit from higher res.
Sure the HVX can likely give a better picture. But thats because its recorder with newer ccds and can shoot in 4:2:2 compression.
Higher res ccds can however give worse latitude and less low light performance.
alpi69
10-09-2005, 02:23 AM
well, if you donīt own a HD-tapedeck (still around $ 20.000, Canon is rumoured to bring a cheaper one) then you can a) deliver the film as a file to someone who has a deck (a network or copyfactory) or you can deliver on DVD.