shooting vision2 200t or 500t

[dasonras]

Has anyone experimented with either of these two filmstocks? I plan to shoot a music video primarily outdoors (under sunny skies). I own a cannon 814 autozoom.

Will the 200t/500t run on my camera?

I am really satisfied with the impressive trailers kodak has of this film and i hope i can shoot with it.

[Sanchez]

You might be better off shooting with a slower speed film --- I've used both the 200t and 500t but for indoors. You would need a lot of ND so you can open up the stop because this is high speed film ... how bout the 100t or even 50d ? (that's the best film I've ever shot -- in my limited experience)

[dasonras]

sorry for my ignorance. Where on kodak's page can i find 100t in super 8? Just so you know, this is my first stab at super 8 negative stocks. I've only shot tri-x in the past.

[baquajim]

I don't think Kodak makes that particular stock in Super 8mm. You would have to order from Super8 Sound in Burbank. They cut all 35mm stocks and fit them into Super 8 cartridges.

For awhile, that was the only way you could get Super 8 negative, but then Kodak caught on and released the two Vision stocks themselves.

[Policar]

Where in MA are you from? Just curious since I live near Boston.

Anyhow, my friend is choosing between vision 2 200ISO and vision 1 320ISO for a short he's DP'ing. He really likes the look of vision 2. I think City of God may have used vision 2 stock...the Constant Gardner may have, too, or maybe it was fuji. They shot most of it in super 16 with an a minima and an sr3.

500ISO is definitely overkill if you're shooting outdoors. It's only for poorly lit indoors scenes, night exteriors, and creating a grainy look. I've seen a telecine of it and it's a beautiful stock with absurd amounts of exposure lattitude, but it's grainy, no two ways about it.

The 85b filter will eat a little light up, but unless you want to shoot at f22 you'll need to stack a gajillion ND filters with anything but ISO 50 or 100, I agree. But if you need to shoot anything later in the day or inside, you might want to consider using 100 ISO for flexibility. If your ultimate distribution method is video, I can't see the nominal resolution and grain differences between the two helping much.

I had no idea Kodak sold super 8 vision 2 negative. How much is it? I must buy some.

[taubkin]

Why not try the new vision2 Daylight stocks? If you are shooting outdoors under sunny skyes, why get a tungsten stock?

If I was shooting super8 I'd go with slower stocks. ISO50, 64 or 100 will have a finer grain and be easier to use in bright exteriors (and for super8, grain alwayss tend to be too much).

[dasonras]

Hey Policar... I'm up in Andover.... since your from MA, do you use Cinelab for processing? I've used them once before and everything came out great. I think they are the only large processing house in the area.

Anyways... confused about the vision2 daylight stocks. I know vision2 daylight is available in 16mm and 35mm, but i don't see it for super 8 on the kodak website. For the vision2 super8 line they highlight 200T and 500T.

[taubkin]

Ah, maybe that's the problem... I really wouldn't know. It's almost impossible to shoot super8 in Brazil, unless you're MTV... :)

[dasonras]

Hey... just to follow up on what i ended up doing:

I shot vision2 200T (7217), which is a negative filmstock. The image quality was outstanding. Looks like super 16.

With the built in 85 filter, the speed of the film drops down to about ISO125. Since it is a negative stock, the light lattitude is very good and in post it is very easy to plus/minus stops.

everyone should try this stock. You will be very happy.

[Chayse_Irvin]

I shot EASTMAN EXR 50D 7245 and it looked super clean and sharp on long lenses. Not so great on wide lens... with thats S16 for ya.