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jtczere
04-12-2016, 07:35 PM
Have been following the birth and growth of the Panny DVX200 thinking of buying one to replace my Panny AC 160 and AF101. Now I see Sony is bring out a new 1inch chip camera that seems to be their version of the DVX 200. Has anyone had a chance to compare the 2 cameras and if so how did they compare. Still on the fence.

John Czere

TDCat
04-13-2016, 07:00 AM
For me it was 50/60p at UHD and a sensor with effectively twice the area (someone feel free to correct me on that one). I would prefer the Sony size, style & build. As for IQ, I can't comment as I've never owned a Sony.

ddixon
04-13-2016, 02:15 PM
The Z150 is essentially the X70 in a larger casing with the updated stacked sensor from the RX10 mk2 and mk3. It has a better codec (XAVC-L like the X70), plus three lens rings and 100mbps 4K (coming to the X70 soon in a FW update). The sensor is 1" type, so the 4/3 of the DVX is only a little larger. It does 10-bit 4:2:2 in HD, but only 8-bit 4:2:0 in 4K and only 30fps.

I'm not sure I see this as a direct competitor of the DVX, as it's much smaller and approx. $1K cheaper.

David Jimerson
04-13-2016, 03:11 PM
Which one gives you the image you'd rather have?

That's the first question you should be asking. Everything else comes after that.

fastfinger
04-13-2016, 06:02 PM
Really like that the Sony's stacked sensor allows you to record 120 fps with audio and no time limit. Too bad they withheld 240 fps and other great features that are on the RX10 ii. Funny No log with the high bit color. Also seems like a sensor that can shoot such high frame rates would be capable of 4k 60fps, but maybe would cut into sales of the fs7. Wonder how useful the auto focus of the a6300 would be with the one inch sensor. So much great stuff seems just around the corner

LiamR
04-16-2016, 06:07 AM
The images I have seen have just look like over sharpened ex1 footage, not really my liking, but Sony always have strong ergonomics.

Mike Harvey
04-16-2016, 08:21 AM
What David said.

I have a bunch of time behind the x70, so if the image is similar, then the z150 will give you good results... but it's aimed at a slightly different (if overlapping) market. It seems like Sony traded depth of field for codec. The DVX is something I would shoot a short documentary film on, or in my case, a corporate video. The z150 seems like something I would shoot a news package on. Both cameras are capable of both scenarios. So really, the question is what's more important to you? Depth of field, or internal 10bit 4:2:2?

Mike Harvey
04-16-2016, 08:29 AM
Really like that the Sony's stacked sensor allows you to record 120 fps with audio and no time limit. Too bad they withheld 240 fps and other great features that are on the RX10 ii. Funny No log with the high bit color. Also seems like a sensor that can shoot such high frame rates would be capable of 4k 60fps, but maybe would cut into sales of the fs7. Wonder how useful the auto focus of the a6300 would be with the one inch sensor.

I've recently gotten a bunch of time behind the a6300 as well... on the one hand, it's frustrating because I'm used to much more "Pro" cameras where I'm not having to deal with menus for everything, but for just under $1k USD, daaaaaaaaang it takes nice images.


So much great stuff seems just around the corner

I had to convince a client that is a friend of mine the other day that my GH4 was not a "downgrade" from my DVX200 (accidentally double booked myself yesterday, and sent the GH4 with another friend to record her presentation). I was looking at the footage last night and this morning, and it still boggles my mind just how stinking good the image quality of a lot of these newer "cheap" cameras is in the right hands.

cookinghusband
04-19-2016, 06:56 AM
There is only one factor I will consider regarding buying a new Sony Cam or not

That is if it is made in China, I will less likely buy it.

The reliability of Panasonic cameras that are Manufactured and assembled in Japan are so much better.


PQ is very much the same as their PQ older brothers ( LX100/ RX100), with extra functions and batteries and bigger lens.

Barry_Green
04-19-2016, 08:09 AM
The DVX does a number of things the Sony doesn't and, accordingly, costs more. Perhaps a better comparison would be Z150 against the new UX90 that Panasonic just announced. Like the Sony, the UX90 has a 1" sensor, and records up to UHD/30p, and is priced more competitively; they didn't tell us what the final price would be but said it would be "under $3000."

DefX
04-19-2016, 11:51 AM
This is a comparison I found on youtube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSBQWiiwsyI

wbrock001
04-24-2016, 06:52 PM
In that case the DVX200 seems to have much nicer facial color and rendering...under exposing in comparison?

Greg Smith
04-24-2016, 07:39 PM
It looked to me like all the Sony shots, and the first "scenic" shot with the DVX, were overexposed. That should be easy enough to fix. The blue sky looked much nicer from the DVX200.

- Greg

Ken1212
06-26-2016, 12:19 AM
Barry do you think the UX90 or the UX180 will have 4:2:2 color sampling to compete with the Sony?

Larry Chapman
06-26-2016, 09:31 AM
It looked to me like all the Sony shots, and the first "scenic" shot with the DVX, were overexposed. That should be easy enough to fix. The blue sky looked much nicer from the DVX200.

- Greg

I never trust exposure comparisons when watching on YouTube. It washes out my uploaded videos almost every time. I render h.264 clips from Premiere.

Barry_Green
06-26-2016, 03:57 PM
Barry do you think the UX90 or the UX180 will have 4:2:2 color sampling to compete with the Sony?

No way to know at this point.

wbrock001
06-26-2016, 09:40 PM
I never trust exposure comparisons when watching on YouTube. It washes out my uploaded videos almost every time. I render h.264 clips from Premiere.

++++on that. Its a nightmare what YouTube does to the video.

jeff9329
06-28-2016, 09:26 AM
There is only one factor I will consider regarding buying a new Sony Cam or not

That is if it is made in China, I will less likely buy it.

The reliability of Panasonic cameras that are Manufactured and assembled in Japan are so much better.


PQ is very much the same as their PQ older brothers ( LX100/ RX100), with extra functions and batteries and bigger lens.

Panasonic cams are built pretty good and in an intelligent fashion.

I know from disassembling some that I have dropped and broken. Lots of screws, but every one has a purpose.

Panasonic parts availability is good, but not perpetual.

Harry Pallenberg
07-06-2016, 04:34 PM
Anyone have links to low light comparisons? Gain / noise comparisons? DOF comparisons?