Trailers and Clips for $9000 LIMBO black and white DV feature

[ROKOKO]

Finished a DV feature in 2005 called LIMBO.

LIMBO IS NOW AVAILABLE IN THE US
http://web.mac.com/themerc01/iWeb/BUY%20LIMBO%20DVD/The%20Circle%20Never%20Ends.html

It was shot on a Canon XL1S and was a $9000, 2 1/2 week production. Bonus Features shot with a DVX100B.

www.limbomovie.com

(note internet explorer is best to view site, flash and quicktime needed)

If anyone still has trouble with the website trailers, the film is also on ifilm at:

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2670550

BLOG & PODCAST link: http://web.mac.com/themerc01/iWeb/THE%20LIMBOLOG/L%20I%20M%20B%20O.html


REVIEWS:

TWITCHFILM.NET
http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/003768.html
'...a serious minded piece of work'

CINEMA-CRAZED.COM
http://www.cinema-crazed.com/limbo.htm
'...an indie that's one peg above the rest.'

CIN3MA.TV
http://www.cin3ma.tv/moving_pictures/reviews/l/limbo.shtml
'We are always seeking films like this, which delve into the darkest depths of our minds.' 4/5 STARS

FILMCRITIC.COM
'...a wealth of promise displayed in Ikimi's narrative skills'
http://www.filmcritic.com/misc/emporium.nsf/0/3af3e538da508355082570b80001d8b9?OpenDocument 3/5 STARS

WORLDSGREATESTCRITIC.COM
http://www.worldsgreatestcritic.com/limbo.html
'...may become a classic in the history of artistic independent cinema.' 5/5 STARS

ROGUECINEMA.COM
http://www.roguecinema.com/article420.html
'...Should you see this movie? Yes, it's most definitely worth seeing....a joy to watch.'

MICROFILMMAKER.COM
http://www.microfilmmaker.com/critiques/limbo.html
'This is a must-own inspiration for low-budget filmmakers...who want to be reminded of what can be done on virtually no money' 9/10

ENTERTAINMENTOPIA.COM
http://www.entertainmentopia.com/reviews/movies/limbo.shtml
'...a thinking-man’s movie which is more focused on delivering a compelling story...'

SHADE.CA
http://www.shade.ca/getarticle.asp?i=749
'It is intriguing and visually stylish...Limbo will surely mark you.'

BLOGCRITICS.COM
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/11/13/123145.php
'...a great story line with a great moral' 4/5 STARS

FILMTHREAT.COM
http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=reviews&Id=8247&archive=&match=&page=0
'...a well made and thought provoking film' 3/5 STARS

FILMGURU.NET
http://www.filmguru.net/reviews/2005/051114.html
'There is no night. There is no sleep. There are no consequences. There is only limbo'

HORRORVIEW.COM
http://www.horrorview.com/Limbo.htm
'...incredible storytelling comparable to old school Twilight Zone episodes' 5/5 STARS STAFF PICK

BEYONDHOLLYWOOD.COM
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/reviews/limbo.htm
'...Mark Thomas Ikimi as a filmmaker to watch'

MICROCINEMASCENE.COM
http://www.microcinemascene.com/artman/publish/review_limbo.php
'...the film has the muscle where it counts most, in the story.'
4/5 STARS

FILMCRITIC.COM (Interview)
http://www.filmcritic.com/misc/emporium.nsf/95a45e26914c25ff862562bb006a85f2/b6255f5fc77594b888257090006feca8?OpenDocument


Looking forward to the feedback! :laugh:

[gumonstro]

very good! did you deinterlace or not? if so, which software did you use?

[ROKOKO]

very good! did you deinterlace or not? if so, which software did you use?
No we did not de interlace. We sent it to a company called FILMLOOK in LA that made it 24 fps and gave it a film grain.

[Chance White]

Just out of curiosity how much did this procedure cost you?

Honestly, I have achieved better results deinterlacing and doing other effects myself in Vegas or Premiere. This looks about halfway in between 60i and the near film motion look of DVX 24p, still looks very video to me.

Aside from that, the short looks pretty good... I hope there isn't TOO much voice over though. But overall looks like you did a good job. Congrats and good luck. Funny we have 2 scripts for shorts about limbo, purgatory, etc that have been sitting on the shelf... and I've seen like 5 shorts on these themes in the last month. Odd.

[ROKOKO]

Just out of curiosity how much did this procedure cost you?

Honestly, I have achieved better results deinterlacing and doing other effects myself in Vegas or Premiere. This looks about halfway in between 60i and the near film motion look of DVX 24p, still looks very video to me.

Aside from that, the short looks pretty good... I hope there isn't TOO much voice over though. But overall looks like you did a good job. Congrats and good luck. Funny we have 2 scripts for shorts about limbo, purgatory, etc that have been sitting on the shelf... and I've seen like 5 shorts on these themes in the last month. Odd.

hmm, are you looking at the right clip? Did you go to ifilm or the website to view? My film is not a short, it is a feature in black and white duration 93 mins under thomas ikimi director. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the feedback though. I appreciate it.

[ROKOKO]

oh and the film if you are watching the right clip (there are like 8 limbo films by different people on ifilm so it is easy to mistake it for another) it is very filmlike to most who have seen the film. Maybe it is the monitor you're on?

We sent it to FILMLOOK in LA. They do filmlooking for the production houses in hollywood like ESPN and NBC send them a lot of shows to filmlook for them etc.

[Chance White]

www.limbomovie.com

I watched the right clip. And it's not my monitor, trust me.

I'm not saying it looks bad, I just expected a bit more I guess... maybe it's just me, whatever.

Also never said yours was a short. I have seen several projects revolving around this theme is all I was saying.

I can say that yours looks to be the most successful one though, just from what I've seen.

Keep us updated, I'm interested in seeing the entire film.

[ROKOKO]

oh no problem, it's good you expected a lot. I'm glad it didn't meet your expectations. It's so much less fulfilling to hear you're so amazing rather than it was good but could be better here here and here. I mean if the film was bad we wouldn't be in the postition we are in now. Thanks very much for the honesty of opinion.

[Chance White]

Well I don't mean to be a jerk, but I try to be honest because as a filmmaker that's the kind of feedback I want.

With you outsourcing to FILMLOOK I expected it to look almost indistinguishable from 16mm, I guess this was unrealistic on my part? Don't get me wrong, it does look very good. I like the style.

[ROKOKO]

yeah it's the only way to get better. Honest harsh but constructive criticism and support as well. Yeah FILMLOOK can only do so much for a DV product and it was shot on an XL1S remember. It is as video as you can get. The fact we got it so much more film like was an achievement. I'll be using a DVX for my next film. I'm just hoping this one sells well. I think it will do okay as we had a lot of people wanting to know a release date at the festivals we went to.

[STORYTELLER32]

I'm not even going to comment on the footage look because, like you said, it was shot on an XL1s (as video as you can get). What I will say is with a lesser camera (as compared to the DVX or XL2) you made an engaging looking film here. This is the kind of thing people like Walter Graff keep talking about. It's less about what you shoot with and more about what you do with what you've got. Kudos for doing so much here. There's a lot of talent involved in this work.

You made a really good looking flik here. Compositions, lighting were gorgeous. The acting apears pretty decent. The music sounds REALLY pro. VERY 6th sense inspired, (which is a good thing to me) (I'd really like to know who did it). The audio was ok. It wasn't horrible, but I think it's the one thing that seems to take away a tad from the overall production value. Did you use the XL1s in camera audio? Because that's what it sounds like to me (then again, it is compressed for the web).

In using the XL1s, did you use multiple lenses? If so, which ones? And how far back did you have to keep the camera to frame for 2.35:1? How long was your shoot? And was this shot in NYC?

Nice job. Would love to check out the full film-

[ROKOKO]

Thanks a lot for the detailed response. Much appreciated and i'm glad you liked the work. We did not use any multiple lenses on the XL1S, we just had a really good hard working DP and crew of gaffers. The music is excellent and we will be offering the soundtrack disc for purchase from the composer who still owns his rights to the LIMBO score. I told him that I liked James Newton Howard and I wanted a cross between 6th sense and the exorcist for the soundtrack. You will notice the exorcist undertones in the Adam Theme on the website music of limbo section. Real quality soundtrack and i'm not just blowing my own movie's trumpet on that aspect. The audio hahahaha man the audio is great. maybe it is the web or your download that may have messed it up. It did have to be GREATLY compressed for the web. The sound was done by a guy called Dan Sable. He is the guy who did the sound for Apollo 13, The untouchables, A bronx Tale, Carrie, Obsession, Married To The Mob, Ransom and a about 65 other hollywood studio pictures dating back to the 60's. Check out his ridiculously awesome resume on imdb.com. We mixed sound at Soundtrack in Manhattan because of him. We mixed at the same time as Spike Lee's She Hate Me which was next door and just after The Manchurian Candidate in our room and before Cinderella Man. Our Engineer worked on both those films, Bob Chefalas. Truth is, I don't like going into some of the great crew we had because the movie should stand on its own. It was VERY chep and these guys came on board because they liked the script and the way the movie was going. Remember I was just a college sophomore and this is my student film so it took a lot to convince folks to get on the wagon haha. We had a few other 'connected' guys involved too. but i can tell you about that another time.

oh the composer's website is www.andydaniels.com

we didn't keep the camera back at all. The DP just masked the actual monitor we used. We didn't have a true scope 2:35 lense. We bootlegged it and it worked!

Problem is now we will have those pesky borders for the dvd which can't be removed. But hey it gives the film look right?

[STORYTELLER32]

Yeah, it's gotta be the compression then. I though it might have been the production sound only because the dialogue and background activity sounds chinsey on my speakers, but the score doesn't. The wonders of compression never cease to confound I guess.

But jesus, you had some serious people involved. How'd you get them to work so cheap?

On the footage note, after watching the clips (aside from the trailer) I do agree with Chance White that the 24p conversion still looks very video to me. But like you said, it's an XL1s. You pushed it as far as it could go and the shooting and other production values balances it out enough to want to watch it. Really looking forward to seeing what you do with a DVX-

[ROKOKO]

It was weird. Like a network thing. One guy comes on and from that he talks to another guy who likes the idea and then he tells another guy. It all started with our editor (after i had to let one go and the second editor walked out on us). We got a guy called Scott Brock who read the script and said he had to work on the film. Now this will BLOW your mind. This guy was the first assistant editor on all Martin Scorsese's movies since Casino. He worked on Casino, Bringing Out The Dead, Kundun, Gangs Of New York and then was part of the three man editing team that won an Academy Award for best editing on Aviator. If you watch the telecast of the Oscars you will hear Thelma Schoonmaker thank Scott Brock in her acceptance speech. The guy worked like a dog. He'd go right from the editing offices at 2 am and come to my apt. in Uptown NYC to work on LIMBO till 4am just to go back to the Aviator at 10 am the next day. Madness. These are the guys who make great movies happen but you never hear about. His bio is on the Limbo page. From him we got the sound guy who had worked with him on a Woody Allen movie. Then the sound guy got us Bob and Soundtrack as most of the young new guys there who are now doing the big hollywood movies were young apprentices when Dan Sable was at the top of the pile. You see how it works? My claim to fame is getting a bottle of champagne from Thelma Schoonmaker when Scott told her LIMBO got into the Taormina film fest in Sicily. Neither her nor Scorsese have watched my film yet though!!!

[Chance White]

What an amazing story... I envy you... alot. Ha ha.

STORYTELLER is right on that you have pulled off an enormous accomplishment. Props to you. The camera after all is just a tool. It's easy to get caught up in all the technical aspects here.

It is certainly an enormous improvement over the super video awful look of virgin XL1 footage.


I agree that it sounds great, much better then most indie productions.

You've already played festivals? I'd love to hear more about your experiences there, I'm about to embark on my first festival voyage.

[ROKOKO]

oh u are? what fests and with what film?

[BLUESPIDER]

I can't get any of your trailers or samples to load. I've actually waited almost 20 mins just to load a trailer and nothing. Just keeps buffering... I really want to see what this film is all about! Eh, maybe next time.

[BLUESPIDER]

Chance White, dude, just chill bro. Video look or not, he's got a feautre done. Hell, I hate Blair witch and it looked like a piece of shit but damn, 100 mil in the box office! Those muthaphuckers did their thang!

:beer:

[Chance White]

BLUESPIDER, yeah, as I said in further posts, it does look good, and the camera's just a tool, and I wanna see the film, etc etc etc... heh

Am I coming off uptight here? If I am, it's because, I am uptight. I mean, no wait, argh! Where's my BC powder?! You've got me all uptight again, thanks alot.

BTW your sig banner is big time 0wnage BLUE.

PS BTW what's up with everyone calling me out by my full name on this thread? Just call me Chance, or don't, Jesus H!

[Chance White]

ROKOKO -

DEATH OF SEASONS - You can check out a teaser at the link in my sig. New full trailer coming soon and a massively updated web site.

As far as what fests, well I plan to be snowboarding in Park City in January, if I don't make it, I will crash all the parties and have renegade screenings, or not. Was going to play some smaller ones first but at this point might as well shoot for the big one and let the chips fall where they may.

[ROKOKO]

Yeah it's the best way because you really never know. Most of the major festivals are NOT independent film fests anymore. They have totally ben hijacked by big money and hollywood...oh and every actor who decides to make a movie about something he or she cares about! It means the little guys cant ven get into indie fests which were made for people that nevr stood a chance in hollywood. Sad really. Tarantino and Rodriguez helped and hindered us all!

Good luck with your film. I saw the trailer and it looks solid. Will need to see more to know exactly what it's about though.

[Chance White]

Thanks for checking it out. The trailer that's on the way will give more of an idea of what it's all about. I agree with you about the festival scene. It's very frustrating knowing that many of the films you are competing against were made by big names with millions of dollars, yet they are still supposed to be 'indie'...

We just have to keep doing our thing like greased up def guy...

Keep us updated on LIMBO.

[jlames]

I think it looks great. By the way, where's the Canon XL forum

[ROKOKO]

I think it looks great. By the way, where's the Canon XL forum
there isn't one. I think the camera is too old to have its own forum maybe. I mean to be honest it isn't even as good a s a pd150 in my opinion. A great camera in its day but it has been well superceded.

[stabwound]

Incredible effort... easily the most professionally done work on DV I've seen.

The compositions, lighting and angle shots are right up there with the big guys. Stuff I aspire to.

Almost makes me want to get the XLs Canon.

Would you have preferred the upcoming HVX or even the DVX, given that you needed to have Filmlook done to it later?

[ROKOKO]

Incredible effort... easily the most professionally done work on DV I've seen.

The compositions, lighting and angle shots are right up there with the big guys. Stuff I aspire to.

Almost makes me want to get the XLs Canon.

Would you have preferred the upcoming HVX or even the DVX, given that you needed to have Filmlook done to it later?

I really appreciate your words. I have a great crew to thank. Yeah a DVX would have saved us SO much time and money. We did it the hard way to get it to look anything like film. It look MUCH better on your dvd player than on the web though believe me. You can't tell how well this DV came out on compressed quicktime files.

Don't get an XL1 S if you can afford a 24p camera like a DVX. We used it because we had no choice. Hopefully you'll get the DVD where we will talk about exactly what it took to get this film made. Not just technical stuff, but how to deal with people and the harshness of the industry when you're at the bottom.

[ROKOKO]

oh by the way, if what the specs say are true, the HVX is an indie filmmaker's wet dream.

[ROKOKO]

I can't get any of your trailers or samples to load. I've actually waited almost 20 mins just to load a trailer and nothing. Just keeps buffering... I really want to see what this film is all about! Eh, maybe next time.

Hmmm are you using explorer with flash and quicktime installed? Explorer is best and on a pc for best results. I mean it works for most people but metscape sometimes is a problem. At worst you can watch it on ifilm. I put the link to it on the first page in this thread. Both the teaser and the long trailer are on ifilm.com. Careful though, there are a lot of limbo's on ifilm so using the link in this thread is the best way. Try explorer for the website though. Will be cool to see the clips and all the other stuff.

[ROKOKO]

Chance White, dude, just chill bro. Video look or not, he's got a feautre done. Hell, I hate Blair witch and it looked like a piece of shit but damn, 100 mil in the box office! Those muthaphuckers did their thang!

:beer:

you know i really believe we can take control of the indie scene if real indie filmmakers support each other and stop trying to go hollywood lite. FOr this film I am really aiming to get grassroots support from guys like you all. Word of mouth goes a long long way. Before you know it, you have a cult film on your hands if you are lucky or at least a film that people want to see. I n short, SPREAD THE WORD! visit the site later in the week and join the LIMBO forum and get chatting about your morality hahaha :engel017:

[xilixfilms]

I think it was a great teaser.
I liked the look, the sound was great and all.
I don't know if you have answered this earlier on, but did you use voice over or on-set audio recording?.

[Chance White]

you know i really believe we can take control of the indie scene if real indie filmmakers support each other and stop trying to go hollywood lite. FOr this film I am really aiming to get grassroots support from guys like you all. Word of mouth goes a long long way. Before you know it, you have a cult film on your hands if you are lucky or at least a film that people want to see. I n short, SPREAD THE WORD! visit the site later in the week and join the LIMBO forum and get chatting about your morality hahaha :engel017:

Count me in. We're in this together, until one of us makes it big, sells out taking a gig to direct Guess Who 2: Guess Who Is The Baby's Daddy, and forgets all the little people... ha ha... Seriously, nice sentiments, we need to support each other.

[ROKOKO]

Yes there was voiceovr in the actual movie and some in the trailer. It was recorded in a studio. Most of the film is production sound though. Think a typical film noir black and white movie but with about a quarter the usual amount of voiceover.

[ROKOKO]

Chance, yeah it can happen man. Seriously, I am going to fight for it. The movie industry is out of control. Real fans are getting squeezed out in favor of big business and teenagers who couldn't care less about real movie making or unique and interesting cinema. I'm hoping to get the ball rolling big enough to start a new world order!!!! A alternate hollywood...FANIWOOD...INDIEWOOD...ok whatever...seriously though think about it. If we all bought each others films (as long as they were decent) for like 10 to 15 bucks we'd all have enough to live and make bigger and better films. I can't tll you how many times i spent money on hollywood films that SUCK so bad I wanted a refund...why not spend it on some poor kid's flick that he made for nothing and actually has some real love in it? I man some indie filmmakers are hacks. I hate all those slasher films and nonsense like that, but take a guy like carugon (dvxuser member) and ancanar...i mean we all gotta support that dude. He really worked hard obviously. Anyway fingers crossed LIMBO sells 10 000 copies its first month haha

If it does i'll throw a dvxuser party lol

[ROKOKO]

OH I almost forgot!

THE LIMBO FORUM IS WORKING NOW. Go to the site and register and have some deep convos on existential topics and the nature of morality. You know you want to. Invite your friends. Come one come all!!!

[Rasquachemedia]

so when do you think the dvd will be out?

[ROKOKO]

so when do you think the dvd will be out?

Well we are in review phase at the moment. We are done with fests and are just waiting to get the reviews in the next two weeks. After that it will be a hard grind to put together the bonus disc and change some unlicensed songs to ones we have ready. Our goal was to kick off slow promotion now with a view to a late december or early January release date. (still have to sign the distribution deal with the distributor and iron out details etc). After that it should hit netflix, blockbuster and Virgin, walmart etc

I really believe it will be indie filmmakers like me and you that will get this film a foothold. It is a movie for people that like and know movies. When you see it you'll know what I mean. I dunno how good you'll think it is, that is up to you obviously, but I am sure you will find it very nostalgic of movies of old.

Release DEFINITELY by January. Maybe Decembr if things go super fast.

What month do YOU think would be a better one to release such a film?

:undecided

[Chance White]

ROKOKO, again, I agree with you. Even most independent movies are uninteresting, unoriginal, crap... the entire state of movies is just incredibly boring, you have to search to find the stuff that is pushing the envelope (Korea is doing it at the moment)

Something has to change, ticket sales are down, Hollywood is just continuing to rehash every comic book, novel, or videogame they can...

Let's start a new cinematic revolution. It's about time.

Have you heard of Ray Carney?

[kprince]

ROKOKO Got Qtime 7 but still links and scenes don't work. Thanks

[ROKOKO]

Who's Ray Carney?

Yeah i think real movie fans have to take control of this thing. I mean guys in suits are running the show for an artisitic commodity. Sad. I am so serious about this. My ambition is to set up an anti hollywood tha makes films by independent filmmakers with a budget cap. i.e. nothing can be over a certain ammount and stars salaries are also capped. That way we'll see who really has what it takes and loves film and who's just in it for the dollars. I think hollywood should stay, but we need a real alternative where young talent can roam free. I mean zeta jones won an oscar what th hell is that supposed to mean?

[ROKOKO]

ROKOKO Got Qtime 7 but still links and scenes don't work. Thanks

You should try internet explorer not netscape or safari if you're on mac. Best is explorer. If it still doesn't work, use the link to the trailers on ifilm that i put in the opening post of this thread. However I E works well for the site.

[kprince]

Nope. I just get the neverending buffer, it's cool

[ROKOKO]

just use the ifilm.com link. That one's got to work for you on any browser.

[xilixfilms]

ROKOKO,
I totally and absolutely support and agree with you in regards to "IT'S TIME WE GET OUR FILMS OUT THERE". It is the same thing with the Music industry. Gorilla singers and rappers can easily get their songs played on the radios and on TVs stations but Movies can not be played in theaters, what da hell is that about?. I know it is a lot of money to advertise and sh* but there are some superb indie movie makers on this site and dvinfo.net and if someone can just give these guys just 1 chance, I am sure the whole movie industry will just #$%^&*, Rodrigues and Tarantino did it and there are a lot of people out there too that can do it.

These are some of my input.
If we can cut a deal with theaters, TV stations on percentage payments, since we don't have the big bucks for adverts and initial placing these films in theaters, but a defered % payment should be able to get things started.

Any of the TV stations and theaters can easily go to festivals and pick the movie they believe will hit big and show it to the ever waiting movie goers.

We don't mind if they can't show it on weekends, but just the fact that you can enter a theater and gwam, you are seeing your work in theaters will definitely make you feel good and tell the lady beside you, did you know that I made that movie!.


Guys, I know we have people, yes people on this site that can make things happen.
We have people on this forum sites that work at TV stations and have access to theaters, etc. Danmit guys, lets do something and stop hoping these movies get premiered at festivals only, and at the end, nothing happens.

If we can get TV stations to do at least 20 secs commercials and Theaters to show it even if it is on weekdays and week nights, hey, that is something. If your movie is off da chain, guess what, the word will spread and maybe they can even start showing it during the weekends, why, because the more money the movie makes, the higher pay the theaters cash in on their %.

This is simple maketing strategy.

Another thing is, the owner of this site (dvxuser), I don't know who he/she is, but I am sure he/she gets paid well by all these companies advertising on this site and guess what, if you, me, and all these other poeple don't come to this site, then I guess this site won't be as big as it is.
Yes, we gain a lot, a real lot from coming here to ask questions about how to do this and that, but after you learnt everything but still you can't prove your self.

So I suggest if anyone that knows the owner (moderators) should suggest this. They need to get in contact with all these Camcorder companies (sony, pana., jvc) etc that it is high time they support indie movies and help us get our movies into the theaters.
We can't be burning grands of $$$$ on their product and they can not help us get somethin out there, I think that's rediculous.

They make money out of us, by we buying their products, right?. So why don't they make more money by supporting and helping us get our own products where it needs to be.

It is the wish and joy of every indie film maker to get his film in theaters, there's no other joy than that.

That is my 1.111 cents.
I really think this should be a topic on it's own and if someone can just copy and send this to the moderators, kings and queens of this site, that will be great.

I mean, think about it for a sec. there are Hollywood movies that sucks more than a 4 years old carrying a $300 walmart camcorder video his/her poo and you wonder how da f* did this movie make it to the theaters, when there are thousands of awesome movies out there by indie guys, sweating to get a distributor.

[Billy Pilgrim]

My ambition is to set up an anti hollywood tha makes films by independent filmmakers with a budget cap. i.e. nothing can be over a certain ammount and stars salaries are also capped. That way we'll see who really has what it takes and loves film and who's just in it for the dollars.

That would be beautiful, but realistically, this anti-hollywood will eventually become the machine it was furiously against in the beginning. There's always some suit out there who will buy an artist's soul.

[triplight]

Anybody interested in the name of the composer for Limbo - it's Andrew David Daniels. I actually saw a film he'd scored a couple of months ago, called Searching For Wooden Watermelons. Good indie film, btw, and his music is really lovely on that flick. The Limbo music sounds really awsome on the website. Love to hear the full score. Can't wait to see the film too!

[ROKOKO]

That would be beautiful, but realistically, this anti-hollywood will eventually become the machine it was furiously against in the beginning. There's always some suit out there who will buy an artist's soul.

It is inevitable that this would happen. I do believe that it is best for filmmakers to take back the control of the industry in much the same way musicians are taking back control of the recording industry. Kazaa, Napster and Acquisition are blessings in disguise. It now means that the playing field has been leveled once again and barriers to entry removed or reduced. With the downturn in the movie industry this year, it is clear that the product is not up to the standard people expect. If talented indie filmmakers can fill that void, then every good director out there has a chance at turning things around. Film making became a business and not an artform. The two have to co-exist but the balance is unfairly in the favour of making money.

[ROKOKO]

Anybody interested in the name of the composer for Limbo - it's Andrew David Daniels. I actually saw a film he'd scored a couple of months ago, called Searching for woden watermelons. Good indie film, btw, and his music is really lovely on that flick. The Limbo music sounds really awsome on the website. Love to hear the full score. Can't wait to see the film too!


He's a great composer. Hopefully the soundtrack will get a release around the same time as the film in January.

[Adam Crabbe]

For being originaly interlaced I thought it look very good.

Lighting was well done too.

[ROKOKO]

thanks

[Zac Henke]

I'm indifferent here (BUT IT LOOKS GREAT!):

I don't know what to think of the pseudo-newscast/It's a Wonderful Life look.


If it works for the flick then DO IT.

Like the stuff... a LOT

[ROKOKO]

cheers

[ROKOKO]

For being originaly interlaced I thought it look very good.

Lighting was well done too.

thanks, the filmlook process worked very well we thought.

[ROKOKO]

happy new year all

[2doors]

Ive been to the site and i really like the story you have going and the look of the film is really good but how the heck did you make it for 9 grand?

[ROKOKO]

hard work, good planning and a lot of luck. visit the website, and it goes into more detail on that topic.

[ROKOKO]

hard work, good planning and a lot of luck. visit the website, and it goes into more detail on that topic.

[CUT THROAT CALI]

I just viewed the site and its done very well. It has a nice ambience, just like the movie. When is it out on general release? I hope it has many special features. I heard some important scenes which were left out of the promotional cut might be re-attached!

[majorbox]

just fyi the trailer wouldn't play at the link, so i had to haxzor your site to d/l the trailer. ;)

looks good, maybe a little to much v/o for my liking. maybe that's just the trailer.

[ROKOKO]

just fyi the trailer wouldn't play at the link, so i had to haxzor your site to d/l the trailer. ;)

looks good, maybe a little to much v/o for my liking. maybe that's just the trailer.

thanks. The trailers seem to be working. Which link did you use? the website or the ifilm one? what browser do u use and what version of quicktime? those could all be factors.

[ROKOKO]

THE FILM IS OUT!!!

BUY THE DVD:
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