View Full Version : HC1 Stills
ChuckS
08-28-2005, 01:43 PM
I purchased an HC1 last night and went to the airport and shot a coupld of different scenes. After downloading the HDV upgrade for PPro 1.5.1 I plugged the camera in and digitized the footage the same way you normally do DV worked great. However, when I placed a clip in the timeline it didn't play correctly in the record monitor. It played and looked great in the preview monitor but once I placed the clip in the timeline it did not scale correctly. I suspect that that something in PPro is not configured correctly - it appears not to be scaling the 1440 to 1920. So I capured some stills to check the output. These are from the Sony HC1 in HDV full auto. I just put a tape in and pushed record.
http://www.daframegallery.com/CMA2005.jpg
These were some pretty harsh conditions - a very sunny day with lots of shadows. The footage coming out of the camera looks really good (the liitle I have seen). As soon as I figure out what I'm doing wrong in PPro I'll post some footage.
Has anyone using PPro with HDV upgraded to the full version of Cineform? If so is there any difference in image quality? :engel017:
ChuckS
08-28-2005, 02:00 PM
I'm not sure why the images won't post, I have the following with the correct brackets around IMG of coarse -
IMG http://www.daframegallery/CMA2005-2.jpg[/IMG]
Can anyone fix this?
David Jimerson
08-28-2005, 02:02 PM
There's nothing at that link.
ChuckS
08-28-2005, 02:16 PM
Works fine for me
Thanks for the help I figured it out :grin:
Anhar Miah
08-28-2005, 03:14 PM
see, thats one of the things that I really like about Sony's EIP engine, it handles the sky nicely in full sunlight without blowing out, makes it look like its got film like latitude, you have to remember that the HC1 does not have ANY ND filtes !!
PANA-MAN
08-28-2005, 06:08 PM
Beautiful pix. That Sony is producing some hella clean images. :thumbup:
Jack_Felis
08-29-2005, 12:09 PM
The HC1 is nice on full auto, but it needs to be configured right to look great. Nice stills!
Angrius
08-29-2005, 05:05 PM
what the hell is the point of buying hd cams right now when the editing hardware costs so much...what are you using to edit this with...how slow is it?
harlan
08-29-2005, 07:34 PM
Gawd...I hope those artifacts are coming from the jpg compression on the images, otherwise they're noisy something awful.
The shots and all look good, mate, I'm not criticizing; I'm just saying that I hope the output of that camera isn't that noisy.
harlan
08-29-2005, 07:39 PM
what the hell is the point of buying hd cams right now when the editing hardware costs so much...what are you using to edit this with...how slow is it?
I assume that by saying "hd cams" you're referring to the HDV cameras? If so, editing the HDV footage certainly isn't that expensive; you can edit HDV on a $500ish MacMini. It's not the most practical method, but it'll definitely get the job done.
HD on the other hand, is an entirely different beast, and it does require a hefty system to edit. For HD material, I actually use a G5 Twin 2.5 with a Decklink HD card, and a boatload of Hard Disks.
Angrius
08-29-2005, 10:46 PM
Thanks..that's exactly what I meant. What about this new Panasonic coming out in december..will the footage require a monster machine? It's not HDV but it's not HD either is it?
Barry_Green
08-29-2005, 11:23 PM
It is not HDV -- it's better quality, but requires a less-powerful computer to edit it. HDV's group-of-pictures structure means that it may need to uncompress as many as 15 frames before it gets to the one it wants -- whereas with the Panasonic's DVCPRO-HD, each and every frame is instantly available.
It'll take up more hard disk space than HDV, but nowhere near as much as uncompressed HD. It can be edited on reasonably powerful desktop systems today, in real time.
Angrius
08-30-2005, 09:52 AM
Thanks Barry:)
TimurCivan
09-18-2005, 12:13 AM
Why so many JAggies on teh edges?????
Also, i got ot play with Finalcut HD today. At the Apple store. The test clips were cineframe 24, andi finally go se ewhat HDV looks like. And its not too bad actually. But the cineframe thign sucks. ITs was like skate boraders going across thescreen and they werent moving that smoothly. it swas really jerky movement. Ex. 24p strobes, but this looks jerky, not stroby.
but the quality of the image was nice. I wouldnt mind shooting Hdv, if it werent for soemthign important.
ChuckS:
May You post a SCREENGRAB with any light (sun ...) (I wont see VERTICAL HOLE, vertical flare ...)
THANKS