My Chinon Super 8

[J.R. Hudson]

I stole back my Chinon Super 8 from my son (The filmmaker in training). I put some batteries in it and VIOLA! It works. At least the motor is moving. I'm going to order some film:

Inside Camera

Daylight - - - ASA 25 100
Artificial Light - - - 40 160

I'll get over to Pro8 to determine my needs. Anyway, anyone know what this means? Look on the picture below and you will seee a button that reads BLC

What is a BLC? Is it BACKLIGHT CONTROL? IF so, how does this work?

(That's my camera!) This was a BDAY gift in 1984 from my grandparents. How cool is that.


http://www.super8ireland.com/images/chinon133.jpg


Found a site where they are going for almost $100.00. I'm hanging on to mine F O R E V E R until its antique style.

[blckhawk542]

Deeeee

thats an old camera!! How's the quality on it? ive never seen super 8 in action. Do they still make them? I might start gettin into film...perhaps 16mm.

Its a nice camera

[J.R. Hudson]

D Man submitted us some Super8 footage in this thread:

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/super8.html

It looks like this. Just glorious, saturated, grainy film stock.

[blckhawk542]

thats a really nice quality picture! I love that Saturated grainy look...im always trying to achieve that look along with the scratches of film in Vegas for like a year now..and i still havent been able to re create it. I might invest into buying a film camera...which would u suggest? Super8? or 16mm? cuz they both good quality.

[Policar]

I swear I own the model down from that camera or something. It didn't work when I got it but I messed around with it and it seems (mostly) functional now.

[J.R. Hudson]

All this DV Technology and you see something like D's S8 footage and it reminds you of how beautiful film is.

[Nobody356]

All this DV Technology and you see something like D's S8 footage and it reminds you of how beautiful film is.

Yea definately! That footage was great, It makes me want to spend the money and get a film camera...maybe sometime later

Thanks for sharing the footage, very awesome :thumbsup:

[Dyrseve989]

John, you couldn't have put that any better, I love my DVX100a, but I refuse to stop filming on my S8' cams, and my 16mm cam.

-Matt-

[Mike_E]

Well aren't you just JR Bookwalter, Mr Hudson. :) You and your Super-8 Zombies (from the zombie thread I assume this is why you are kicking it up a notch, for a small part of your DVXFest entry)

[Barry_Green]

Yes BLC is backlight control. It just forces the iris open by a stop or two.

[J.R. Hudson]

Thanks Barry.

[thisiswells]

I suspect there will need to be some exposure compensation considering they don't make 25 or 40 speed film anymore. Nevermind, I just noticed it also lists 100, 160, so you're good. (although, forget about using 7218 without a fair amount of rigamaroo involved). Slower film is better on S8, anyways.

... looks like a really nice camera, John.

[blckhawk542]

How do you get the footage from a Super 8mm to video format so you can edit it on ur computer? with out having to film a projecter..cuz you cant use a projector on Pro8mm film.....? jus curious...

[J.R. Hudson]

Well Im still a little in the dark (It's been 20 years since I used/ordered any film)

I called the folks at

http://www.pro8mm.com/main.php

on Friday (coincidentally) and the guy who picked up the ohone was about as helpful as (Insert Clever one liner here).

His overall advice was "Go on our site..."

I'm like "Hi! I have an old Super8 and its been years since i used one and I want to shoot some B Roll for a DVX100 short film and was curious...................."

"Check our site... er."

Like he couldnt even take the time to even ask me one question; just did not have time to 'deal' with me. Customer service is a fucking joke these days.

Oh well; 'I'll figure it out.'

[blckhawk542]

well..its not like a reg tape or suttin like mini dv where you can jus play back..is it? cuz i saw a pic of it..and it looks like a cartredge...or suttin like that.....im like an uber noob when it comes to actual FILM...someone gimme a 101.....lol

[Sirius_Doggy]

Hey John - You inspired me to open up the curio cabinet and blow the dust off a couple oldies I've got.
I'm not sure how old they are or if they are worth anything, just part of a huge collection of cameras I've collected over the years. These two are the only motion cameras I've got though. The rest of my collection is old still cameras.

http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/46359590.jpg

http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/46359591.jpg

http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/46359592.jpg

http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/46359593.jpg

http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/46359594.jpg

http://cakonos.image.pbase.com/image/46359595.jpg

http://cakonos.image.pbase.com/image/46359597.jpg


http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/46359596.jpg

Amazingly - the Kodak still had film in it when I opened it. I've had this one for at least 10 years and I guess I never opened it or did and just left the film it it.

[J.R. Hudson]

It's like this Blackhawk

http://www.adorama.com/images/Product/KKPXR464.jpg

http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/about/history/cousins/image/super8film_i.jpg


Thats awesome Sirius! Check out that lil Brownie!

I have one of these as well:

http://members.ams.chello.nl/a.wichmann2/bolexdummy.jpg

[blckhawk542]

ooooo sooo thats what they are!! I get itt!!


Sirius....niiice cameras...

John.....niiice camera.....
my grandpa used to have the Krasnogorsk-3...i wish he still had that camera..then i would start makin sum 16mm movies...do you guys know where they sell 16mm cameras for like under 800 dollars? Ive looked to the end of the internet and beyond..and i didnt find any dealers..and i dont trust ebay....

Hey Sirius...sell me that first camera you got up thurrr...the black one. lol

[thisiswells]

I have a basic knowledge of film. There are three types: negative, positive (reversal), positive (print). Negative film is generally preferred by cinematographers for its' wide latitude. Reversal (aka slide) film is generally preferred by photographers because they can project it immediately. Negative film must be transferred to a print film before it can be projected. (always additional costs involved to view negative film)

The only methods of importing motion picture film into a computer with acceptable quality levels are expensive because there are usually minimums involved (my observation anyways). Some simply project reversal film at a screen, then point the video camera at the screen, and load the tape in to a computer, but that's really a mediocre way of doing it at best.

Real telecine is real expensive and is not scaled per format. In other words, a 15 minute transfer for 35mm is the same price as 8mm, basically.

Brian "down on shooting film because he can't afford it" Wells

[Sirius_Doggy]

Hey Sirius...sell me that first camera you got up thurrr...the black one. lol

You do know it's 8mm - not 16mm right.
Make me an offer...:thumbsup:

[blckhawk542]

yes i kno....

ok...ill give you..one of my monitors that you adore so much...a tv (not plasma)..maybe a small editin preview tv...and a coupon for a free meal to burgar king....its a good offer...get it while its hot...actually u know what..ill throw in an extra coupon...free meal at wendy's!

haha...well....does the cam still work and everything? can you use the cartredge type of Pro8mm film? what kind of condition does it run in?

[J.R. Hudson]

Unfortunately if I go the Super 8 route for some minor B Rolls on my Zombie shot (I'm talking a negligent amount here) I'll end up having to shoot off a projector. Not sure if I'm willing to spend the duckets for a telecine.

I'll just pay for one roll and processing. (Heheh - That would explain why homeboy at the business didnt want to deal with me. Don;t these people know that one day we might actually need like a feature film amount of work done?)

[Sirius_Doggy]

ok...ill give you..one of my monitors that you adore so much...a tv (not plasma)..maybe a small editin preview tv...and a coupon for a free meal to burgar king....its a good offer...get it while its hot...actually u know what..ill throw in an extra coupon...free meal at wendy's!

haha...well....does the cam still work and everything? can you use the cartredge type of Pro8mm film? what kind of condition does it run in?

It does still work. The motor is a wind-up type and it runs smooth.

The lenses are in great condition, as you can see they've been kept capped.

NO - it will not take the cartredge type film. It runs on a roll just like the take up reel in the photo.

hum.... Burger King & Wendy's coupons! Who told you I was a fast-food junkie?
What monitor?

[blckhawk542]

What film could i use then?

I can read your mind about fast food...woooooooo

and the monitor....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/blacksheep699/editstation.jpg

Dat monitor...lol

JK..thats my baby..lol
i'll give ya 200 for da camera..thats if only i could find the film that can go with it..and then figure out a way to process it to mini dv...

What frame rates does it record in?
Wheres the viewfinder?

[thisiswells]

How would you load the film in the camera, Sirius? Loaders use a changing tent... What did home movie makers use? I'd love to know.

Thanks,
Brian

[Sirius_Doggy]

I really don't think the camera's worth $200 bucks. I'd feel bad taking that much for it. If I remember correctly I bought it at a garage sale for 20 or 30 bucks. Of course it may be worth more than that. It only shoots at one frame rate and I don't know what the standard 8mm frame rate is. 24fps???
The viewfinder is right above the three lenses. You look through a peep hole on the back and you see through the window on the front. There's an overlay on the window of two different size boxes. The full view is the wide angle view, the small box in the center is the "telephoto" view and the middle box is the medium lens.
You just wind it up and there's a small trigger on the side the releases the moter and runs it. Pretty nifty mechanizm.

[Sirius_Doggy]

How would you load the film in the camera, Sirius? Loaders use a changing tent... What did home movie makers use? I'd love to know.

Thanks,
Brian

Beats me - Maybe Barry or one of the "film" guys knows. Had to be pretty easy for the average joe to use though. I've never loaded it. Both cameras above seem to load the same way.

[monte]

Wow BLK what do your parent/s do for a living?

[blckhawk542]

hmm....cant you just get a small roll and just put it in there? ...damn technical stuff.....



Wow BLK what do your parent/s do for a living?


haha...why u say that?

[Sirius_Doggy]

hmm....cant you just get a small roll and just put it in there? ...damn technical stuff.....


Because it seems as though you'd be exposing the while roll to light while loading it. Not sure.

Think about loading a roll of 35mm film in a photo camera. The film is in the canister except for the small portion you pull out to thread, then when you close the back you always advance past that exposed part pulling fresh "unexposed" film out of the canister to photograph with. With this roll it may or may not be the same way but it doesn't look so. Look at the other camera above that has film in it. Seems like both the take-up spool and feed roll is exposed fully to light.

[monte]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/blacksheep699/editstation.jpg


^
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Well, there's that and the fact that if I recall correctly you're a youngin

[blckhawk542]

Well..do you remember how u loaded the film in that other camera

[blckhawk542]

^
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Well, there's that and the fact that if I recall correctly you're a youngin



oohh taht...lol..well...my parents arent like CEO's or nethin..they jus reg ppl...my dad wanted to get that computer...and wenever he wants to buy suttin..he eventually does...he works at a hilton hotel..in some resteraunt..and my mom works at a hospital.

i guess u culd say average ppl...and i work...well...subway... :(

[Sirius_Doggy]

I didn't load it. As I stated above, when I opened it tonight to take the photo was the first time I discovered it even had film in it. I purchased these cameras just to add to a large collection of old cameras that I used to collect. Really not interested in any of them anymore. Really not interested in "collecting stuff" anymore. Kinda Zen huh?

[Sirius_Doggy]

l...and i work...well...subway... :(

Work at a Subway and you're giving away BK and Wendy's coupons? Jarred would be ashamed of you.

[Phil]

HAHA that was funny

[blckhawk542]

sshhhhh...he doesnt have to know!!!

i hate subway....and the thing that reaally pisses me off about dat job is...ppl always screw up when they want meat on their sandwhiches...im like...BITCH!! CHOOSE !! ITS EITHER TURKEY OR ROAST BEEF!!...i did that once...whew..didnt go too well wit the higher up ppl.... eeep.

[Phil]

haha, this thread's hilarious...

[J.R. Hudson]

Nothign wrong with working Subway; at least youre working man. See, Blackhawk is a prime example of a 'high schooler' who acts mellow and not like he is 12. (Cough like 17 year old that was banned today).

Subway. Thats great. At least the grub is good.

[monte]

Bah John you always forget about me <-- 16 works at Panera's! Comon John, I'd expect better of you. From now on I'm calling you Sandwich Johnny.

[blckhawk542]

Sandwhich Johnny? LOL!!!!

[Dyrseve989]

A good place to go to get your S8 film printed and digitized, this is if your in the NYC area

http://www.a1filmlab.com/

[Policar]

They make boxes that work around a similar concept to mini35 adapters where you project the image very brightly on a small area and tape that. Apparently, the quality is pretty good. I think I may buy one of these despite not having a projector.

[J.R. Hudson]

Bah John you always forget about me <-- 16 works at Panera's! Comon John, I'd expect better of you. From now on I'm calling you Sandwich Johnny.

I didn't forget. I just figured you had nearly a 1000 posts and it went without saying. :)

[blckhawk542]

I didn't forget. I just figured you had nearly a 1000 posts and it went without saying. :)

....good cover up...sounds believable in my book...muuhaha

[Barry_Green]

Beats me - Maybe Barry or one of the "film" guys knows. Had to be pretty easy for the average joe to use though. I've never loaded it. Both cameras above seem to load the same way.
The cameras you're showing pictures of use "daylight-load" spools. The black spools protect the film from exposure (except for the bit at the end that wraps around the rest of the spool). So no, you don't need a film tent or changing bag for those.

Super 8 was even easier -- it comes in a sealed plastic cartridge, which you pop in 'n' out of the camera, about as easy as loading a DV tape.

[Barry_Green]

Regarding buying cameras -- go ebay. You can get a new, never-used Krasnogorsk-3 16mm camera for, well, last time I looked they were going for about $150. Seems the factory went bankrupt and instead of paying their employees their back wages, they just handed 'em unsold cameras instead.

Super 8 cameras are all over ebay, you can find working cams for $10 or so. Don't get Regular 8 unless you really know what you're doing; R8 film stock is much more difficult to find, processing is more difficult to locate, etc. Stick with Super 8 if you want to use the small 8mm film gauge.

[monte]

"In Russia - car drives YOU!"

Barry - I noticed that when talking about the K-3, you mentioned that the most you'll get out of it is about 25 seconds of footage each time. I'm not very familiar with how spring wound setups work, but when it comes to shooting the 1 frame per second stuff on that camera - or lower framerates (8,16 etc) this means that it will add up to 25 seconds of frames at 24 (25x24 = total frames) so lower framerates will help the longevity of 1 wind-up

I hope this makes sense, if not tell me I'm a crazy cracker and throw a chair at me, I wont mind

[Barry_Green]

Yes, I'm presuming 24fps (or 25fps). Obviously you are correct -- shooting at a slower frame rate, the spring would last longer (and vice versa, shooting 48fps will mean you only get about 12 seconds).

[blckhawk542]

Barry...are Sirius's cameras Super 8? or Regular 8?

[monte]

The kodak is regular 8 isn't it?

[thisiswells]

The cameras you're showing pictures of use "daylight-load" spools...
Thanks, Barry.

Figured another explanation could be there just wasn't high speed film being made back when they were making these cameras, hence fogging wasn't as much of an issue, especially considering the daylight spools.

Anyways, Thank you for the help!

Brian

[Barry_Green]

Barry...are Sirius's cameras Super 8? or Regular 8?
They're regular 8. You can tell easily because they use spools, instead of plastic cartridges.

[blckhawk542]

Hey John...i found a website where you can learn how to develop your Super 8 footage yourself..without sending it to labs and paying like 40 bucks to develop it.

Since you were wondering how to capture your film footage to computer...it tells you everything there.

http://online.sfsu.edu/~ralph/process_site/contents.html

and for anyone else whos interested......

[discs of tron]

reg 8mm is very hard to come by these days. there are one or 2 people in the world who make it.

pro8mm sucks donkey ass, from a customer service standpoint. forde labs in seattle do better work, they do reversal and neg film, and they don't treat you like a red-headed stepchild.

wells, the 3rd kind of film you mentioned (way back many posts ago,) is negative. camera-original negative is printed to negative film to make a positive for projection. (sort of like if you go "i aint got no money," it means "i have money."- double negative.)

the problem with the chinon in the original post is that many cameras only had 2 asa settings, for the two types of reversal filmstock that were made for the past 40 years or so- kodachrome(40) and ektachrome(160). the smaller numbers just represent the slower asa that goes into effect once the cameras daylight filter is engaged (eating 2/3 of a stop of light.) some cameras were made to read other asa's for when they would theoretically be invented, but that's rarer. i believe john's nikon is in that category- it's either an r8 or r10 i think. some of the best super8 cams ever made. the problem is, kodak is stopping production of kodachrome. they're replacing it with a stock with an asa of 60. if your camera has no manual exposure control, it's gonna overexpose by half a stop. and you don't want to overexpose reversal film. (slight underexposure looks very nice with reversal.)

[Larry R]

i found a website where you can learn how to develop your Super 8 footage yourself

http://online.sfsu.edu/~ralph/process_site/contents.html

blckhawk - when I go to this link I get a page that says, "Sorry...The document you requested cannot be found". Can you double check the link, I'd really like to read what you found.

Thanks,
Larry

[blckhawk542]

blckhawk - when I go to this link I get a page that says, "Sorry...The document you requested cannot be found". Can you double check the link, I'd really like to read what you found.

Thanks,
Larry

Yea i noticed that too...i went to recheck it and it says it cant be found...either the server hosting the site is being stupid..or it was deleted.

but never fear..i found something else for devloping film...a book for $32.00 dollars...teaches you everything. It doesnt seem that bad. Tells you what you need and everything.

http://musicbooksplus.com/product_info.php/products_id/3586

and here are the materials you need too...

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=developing+16mm+film&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-08,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=ff&oi=froogler

heres even more books....

http://musicbooksplus.com/index.php/cPath/57?osCsid=5ffe64bc7577269b5b14546318dc4287

[J.R. Hudson]

pro8mm sucks donkey ass, from a customer service standpoint. forde labs in seattle do better work, they do reversal and neg film, and they don't treat you like a red-headed stepchild.



So it wasn't just my lucky lottery phone call? It definatley felt like the red headed step-child issue.

Thats the problem these days; not only with just a lack of fucking decent customer service or respect as a paying customer but you get an operatoin like this that is one of a few available to you and they know it. So what do they care?

Then you have places like EVS and RUsh who go out of their way to be mellow and make you feel like a first class citizen.

[Sledgeweb]

Another way you can tell that film in the brownie camera (Sirius) is regular 8 is the sprockets. Regular 8mm has sprockets on both sides, like most film stocks. Super 8 is basically a 16mm film cut in half, so it only has sprockets on one side. This allows for a wider aspect ratio, as part of the film isn't being used for sprockets.

[blckhawk542]

So it wasn't just my lucky lottery phone call? It definatley felt like the red headed step-child issue.

Thats the problem these days; not only with just a lack of fucking decent customer service or respect as a paying customer but you get an operatoin like this that is one of a few available to you and they know it. So what do they care?

Then you have places like EVS and RUsh who go out of their way to be mellow and make you feel like a first class citizen.

I totally agree with you. Customer Service Reps are all dickheads...well most of them are... I remember I called a Customer Service line at Gateway, regarding something for my computer. And I got this dude who talks like he owns the world.

"well your computer needs to be upgraded whether you need a new hard drive or not."
and he said all this other shit...and the reason i called is cuz i wanted to find out how much a new 400 GB drive would be...and he asked me what hardware i have in my comp...dont know why..prolly compatibility issues or suttin...and hes like..WELL YOU SHOULD UPGRADE!! ITS MANDATORY..im like...wtf you bitch im paying you...so stfu...he hung up.

[discs of tron]

sorry sledge, but you're wrong there. reg8mm (actually double8) is the one made from split 16mm. they both only have sprockets on one side. super8 has smaller sprockets. that's the only difference, allowing more picture area for s8. many 8mm cams are "double8", where you got a short (usually 25') roll of 16mm. you shot it for 25', flipped it over at the end, shoot the other side of the reel, and when you send it for processing, they split the processed film down the middle and splice them together, sending you 50' of 8mm film.

the kind of film with sprockets on both sides is reg16. (sometimes.) super 16 can only be single-perf, but reg can be single or double, as less of the neg is used for picture. not sure if you can even buy double perf 16 anymore. high-speed cameras often needed double perf to be able to achieve decent registration at their wicked-high speeds. but "double 8" cams are double perf, and then the processed film comes back single perf, and noticeably skinnier.

i'm not getting into 35 right now.

also, reg8, super8, and reg16 all use the same aspect ratio. (4:3, or 1.33) the picture area just gets bigger in size as you go up (in the above order.) but they're all the exact same shape ("aspect ratio" basically just means "shape.")

[Shiloh Arts]

do you guys know where they sell 16mm cameras for like under 800 dollars? Ive looked to the end of the internet and beyond..and i didnt find any dealers..and i dont trust ebay....

Hey Sirius...sell me that first camera you got up thurrr...the black one. lol

I think the pro8mm.com guys have a couple of camera that are 16mm but then again you have to deal with their shakey customer service.

Pete

[Shiloh Arts]

can you imagine with all this film hype ...we end up buying film all over again lol :grin:

[Kay O. Sweaver]

Its really great to see video people who still love and appreciate film. I'm only now making the switch to DV, its been all super 8 and a little bit of 16mm for me for the past five years. If you've got any questions about super 8 just ask, I'll either know or know where to find out.

[TimurCivan]

this is kind of an old theread buti havea question. John,
i just got a chinon S8 cam. cheaper version than yours. it works, but when you look thoughthe viwfinder its not really in focus unless you back you eye away from the viewingn hole a inch.... even then everythign is in focus and turning the focus ing doesnt really doa nything. shouldi just guesstimate the distance and shoot using focus distances? cause teh mechanism is perfect. it just the viewfinder seems to be thrown off.... asit is 30 years old.

[John Michaels]

As mentioned before, the BLC (back light control) shifts the auto iris open a bit. This is used primarily for shooting situations like interior windows where you want to see more detail on the subject in the foreground.

I have dealt with Pro8mm with only poor results. Although I now expect bad customer care as a given, what really hurts is that the quality of what they sell also suffers greatly. The rule of thumb for me is NOT to order anything that has their Pro8mm label on it! This means cameras, film accessories etc.

The cameras they sell cameras are merely a repainted Beaulieu with Pro8mm labeling (advertising) all over it. The price is way out of league for what a similar Beaulieu should cost. Their film is remanufactured short ends (left over film stocks from shoots) loaded into super 8 cartridges and sold as new. These films (as well as their "Pro8mm" 16mm) are very inconsistent as a result. Scratches, dirt, shift in color/exposure, expiration and Xray damage are all possibilities (some of which I have experienced myself). Pro8mm will do anything to save a buck on what they sell and should be avoided!

Fresh super 8 neg films made by Kodak can be had in discounted packages at Spectra Film and Video (with their superior processing and telecine). Customer care is top notch as well! They offer everything Pro8mm has with better attitude and quality. I have used them for several recent projects with far better results: www.spectrafilmandvideo.com

[J.R. Hudson]

this is kind of an old theread buti havea question. John,
i just got a chinon S8 cam. cheaper version than yours. it works, but when you look thoughthe viwfinder its not really in focus unless you back you eye away from the viewingn hole a inch.... even then everythign is in focus and turning the focus ing doesnt really doa nything. shouldi just guesstimate the distance and shoot using focus distances? cause teh mechanism is perfect. it just the viewfinder seems to be thrown off.... asit is 30 years old.

RIGHT ON!

Yeah my Viewfinder has always been weak. It's set to infinty anyway I think? Juts a point and shoot

[John Michaels]

Sounds like the eyepiece needs adjustment. Look for a small knob/dial or rotate the eyecup.

[TimurCivan]

cool! i will be using it tommorw in an exotic location. Buyuk Adi in istanbul Turkey.... when i Telecine it in a few months i will post grabs.

[kingofcomedy86]

Hey John. I have that exact same Chinon camera I believe! I haven't used it yet, but I would really like to try it out. Super 8 is pretty neat. I even saw a 35mm blow up of it, and the quality looked surprisingly good. Fun camera. Can't wait to get started on some film. And here's a website you might be interested in. They sell 50' rolls of super 8 film for about 17 bucks. http://filmemporium.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/super8.html

and they also have some really great deals on short ends for 16mm and 35mm if anyone is interested. I think 35 short ends are listed on there at about 15 cents a foot. Which is really good.

I believe I saw some of you asking about 16mm MOS cameras. I would recommend a Canon Scoopic. It's a pretty neat camera that is super easy to work and puts out fantastic end products. The thing is pretty much self loading, and you can find them for reasonable prices too. But it only takes 100 ft spools which will only give you about 2 1/2 minutes of film, but they are awesome little cameras. And you will not have trouble finding someone to repair or service the camera either, which might become an issue if you go for a Krasnagorsk or something of the like, but I hear those cameras are pretty good as well. Never had the pleasure of using one though.

[J.R. Hudson]

I love that camera; my first one ever when I was 14. I made some ridiculous films with it.

I have a bunch of reels I need to telecine

[byzantinic]

Dear blackhawk,
How you could appreciate - if you have some information on it - the Chinon Pacific 12 SRM super mm 8 camera. In Romania we don't have much information about it. I recentely get this kind of camera from ebay. Thank you

[Evro]

Hey Byzantinic,
That's quite a nice camera you got yourself, I don't know if it will meter properly for Ektachrome 64T without seeing inside the film compartment, from the specs though it looks as though it might, anyway here are some specifications on this model:

Chinon 12 SMR Pacific
Year: 1978-80
Weight: 2300 g
Lens: Chinon zoom 1,8 / 6 - 72 mm
Macro focusing
Microprism Focusing
Auto / Manual Zoom with Variable Speed
Frame rates: 18, 24, 36 + single frame
Shutter degree: 150
Manual / Auto Exposure
Backlight Control
+/- correction for auto
Flash contact
Fades
Lap dissolve of 72 frames
Remote control socket
Interval timer
Auto / Manual Recording Level Control
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