Poor Man

[Questionman17]

Here is my music video that I shot with a Sony TRV-70. The song is from Soul Jahz.
I shot it and edited all in one day. I am not in it because I was the director and camera-man. Tell me what you guys think. Be honest about it. I didn't do a lot of color correction. I should've made it more contrasted, but hey, next project.


Click here to watch Poor-Man-Small (http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Poor-Man-Small)

[Jay Rodriguez]

blocked by my job's proxy server...... this happens all the time to me.....

[Norm Sanders]

I've been sitting on this page for over 10 minutes ... enough loads to be able to see the girl begin walking away from the homeless person, and I ALMOST hear the complete first verse of the song ... then it stops like it's waiting to load more ... and NEVER does. Trying to save to my hard drive to watch from there, but the site won't let me.

Also, when I clicked on original size, it was about the size of a dime, or less. Since you've got this in Vegas, why not rerender the thing to a larger size, perhaps Windows Media Player? You said you had a 17MB version of this in this thread: http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=29823

Why not just post it to my server with the FTP instructions I PM'd you? You'll have a higher quality viewing for all to see.

[thisiswells]

je ne sais quoi

[Policar]

Only the first 10-20 seconds play for me. The first shot looks cool, nice composition, slow-motion, etc. The rest looks like cheesy home video: careless compositions, bad camerawork, random, unmotivated, edits, no continuity (some stops overexposed, some underexposed a bit, differences in color temperature). Pretty good for "cheesy home video" but still--that's what it looks like (you asked for honesty.)

[Norm Sanders]

je ne sais quoi

Translate.

BTW, thisiswells, did you move? Weren't you in Texas just a month ago?

[Questionman17]

I seriously think it's art. The entire handheld while he's begging. Policecar, were you able to watch everything?

[Sledgeweb]

For me, only plays the first bit, dies right after the ECUs.

[Cpt. Shiner]

I seriously think it's art.

Were you quoting your mom? Har-har.

Like most of the others, I am unable to view the whole video. I was able to see the first 15 seconds or so - when the singing starts. A couple comments.

I thought you needed a tighter shot to precede the close-up of the foot kicking the cup. You went from a wide shot to a close-up of the foot. Unless you're looking for it in the wide shot, you miss the foot kicking the cup and the cut to the close-up seems out of place.

The close-ups on the eyes don't match the two-shot that preceded them. The guy is looking up and the girl is looking down in the two shot. When you go to the close-ups they are both looking straight ahead. He should have still been looking up and she should have been looking down in order to maintain continuity.

Just a couple things to think about for your next shoot. Good luck.

[J.R. Hudson]

Translate.



An indescribable something

[thisiswells]

John, you are qualified to be a Google instructor :)

[Norm Sanders]

An indescribable something

Thanks. I think. :huh: :cheesy:

OT, John, I can't look at your avatar without thinking of the "More Cow Bell" skit in SNL. LOVE IT! Think I'll go watch it again now.

[thisiswells]

"Continuity was a HUGE problem here."

I sincerely doubt he had 'enough time' to be concerned about continuity. :grin:
To be fair, I thought the establishing shot was well composed, but far too long.

[Questionman17]

When I said about the art thing, I tried to tell you what I tried to achieve by filming that way. I did that part handheld on purpose. I could've use a tripod but I didn't. That is what I meant by it. I shot a dialogue scene today. I am going to post it for you guys.

[thisiswells]

Also, the "white flash" transitions cover up your widescreen matte. Big no-no. It would be best for you to find a way around that so the transitions are only on the video layer and not on the black on top of the black widescreen matte. There are several ways of accomplishing this.

Being a filmmaker involves creative problem solving, so impress us all and figure it out on your own.

[Norm Sanders]

Being a filmmaker involves creative problem solving, so impress us all and figure it out on your own.

True, but OUCH! Guess after the last couple of days with this dance, it's doesn't really warrant being tactful anymore, huh?

[thisiswells]

I would not want to say anything hurtful or offensive on this board. I should have been a little less direct in my prior comment.

Transitions are one area an experienced editor should be able to tackle. If the complexity of a finding a solution becomes unbearable, then I'll help the guy. I would actually be impressed if he figured it out. It would erase many of the other concerns in my mind and go a long way towards brownie points. :)

[Norm Sanders]

Yeah, it actually took me a month or two (not at 40 hours a week, but you know what I mean) to figure out how to get the flashes off the black bars. It's a glaring effect for sure when it's seen.

You weren't too offensive, thisiswells, like I said, I could see why/how it was said. Looks like the other post is closed now!

Q17 - Continuity seems to be a big thing you need to pay attention to, as mentioned by others in the SHORT bit of the music video that they could see. In your OTS dialogue shot you had posted in the now closed thread, the guy cocked/chambered the gun twice. Unrealistic & quite unnecessary.

[thisiswells]

I think it's a bit silly to put teenagers in those specific roles as they do not come across believeable to me. One example of age appropriate actors in a series was the MTV show, "undressed" The content was edgy at times, but captivating as they were using college students off the street (non actors) to play the parts and every episode had a different cast! Very cool idea, even though it was bit filthy in content. Point is, it was believable college life because it cast appropriately. I enjoyed watching it. :evil:

[Norm Sanders]

I'm sure you did. At least you can admit it!

[thisiswells]

For the scene with the two guys talking...

location
I would pick a different location simply from a belief standpoint. When are two guys hanging out in middle class suburbia with an inground swimming pool, when one of them forces scripture on to his friend and the friend pulls out a gun? I don't buy it. They should be in the ghetto or anywhere else, really.

props
That was a huge Bible. It seems more likely someone would carry a pocket New Testament, like a Gideons Bible, more often than a reference Bible. Just a thought. Without knowing some of the background it is impossible to know where they are coming from, and perhaps the larger text fits your story better, I simply don't know enough to say. I would encourage a smaller, more mobile, copy of the Holy Word.

The gun wasn't convincing enough and removes yet another layer of belief. Perhaps you may find a weapons wrangler who is willing to help out. Airsoft guns would be a better choice, but would cost you around $100 and they tend to jam easily. However, if weapons are a large part of your script, I feel it would be worth the investment. Maybe one of your actors would be willing to fit the bill.

I am almost surprised if you are financing this entire project yourself. I occasionally volunteer as a documentary cinematographer on overseas missions trips and I have never had any trouble raising support for my expenses. I would think you would find there are 'wealthy' Christian business owners who would be willing to support your cause. Maybe you could even make some money off the deal? I don't know, but it IS worth considering... However, that isn't much of a possibility if you intend on starting next week.

I think what everyone has been trying to tell you, if I may be so bold to speak for others, is your movie will be much better if you can wait a little longer and assemble more resources. It's simple to explain to actors that you maybe feel a little in over your head and because you believe in the project, you are going to postpone it. They will understand. Honest.

Think of it this way: Okay, summer is over in six weeks, and maybe you could squeeze in a shoot, but you still have months of editing ahead of you. You only get your actors once, and seeing as they are professional SAG actors, you want to leave the best possible impression on them.Word gets around in this business.

If you really care about making the best movie from your script, then wait. I know you will not wait because you are anxious... But, you only get to one chance to make this particular script. If it is your best so far, then you will see the value in waiting. I stick to this principle myself. I imagine many others here do as well. Eventually, you have to make do with the resources at hand, but, waiting has never been a bad thing, in my experience. Years of planning and pre-production will only improve a project, never ruin one.

As always, good luck... and God bless your heart. You've got guts kid.

[thisiswells]

I'm sure you did. At least you can admit it!
I remember catching a couple of episodes like 3-4 years ago. Haven't seen it since. It only comes to mind as I was recently reading about the Wilson brothers new independent film, "The Wendell Baker Story" which played at SXSW film festival in Austin this year. The D.P. of that movie was coincidentally the shooter for the MTV show, as I discovered on the IMDB... (I realized after this plug it wasn't that guy, it was a different guy I met a tradeshow that shot the MTV series... and more recently, he shot the video background plates for, "A Scanner Darkly" using a DVX100a, no less)

The title is certainly provacative and risque' yet I don't recall specifics of the show besides the generally sensual overtones and innuendoes typical of teen melodrama. It was rated TV-14, which isn't any different from other sitcoms. Though, I couldn't name any current sitcoms, so maybe all television is corrupt today? I have no idea. This show was cast appropriately and it worked, for better or for evil.

It merely underscores the fact that even non-actors can put out memorable performances day after day. And, that good casting is critical to the success of a "show." (obviously)
If the actors do not fit the script, then write a script that fits the actors...

[Norm Sanders]

Thisiswells, WORD on everything you said.

Funny you mention "The Wendell Baker Story". I had the exec producers of this (or their "finders") contact me a couple years ago. It got around that I had rapport with some people of high net worth, and they contacted me to see if I could get the project in front of them. It was currently budgeted at $12MM, but the company they were looking to go with (I THINK it was Franchise Pictures) was only wanting to fund $8MM ... so they were looking for another source that could actually do the full $12MM, only problem was that they had less than 48 hours to do it. I said no thanks, but I'm glad to see it got made anyway. Would have been fun to work with them though ... if I recall correctly, it was going to be Luke's freshman run as director.

[Questionman17]

Ok, this is for everyone but especiall for thisiswells. Ok, that scene with the two guys (me and my friend) was a "test" shot. I has nothing to do with the story. The cocking two times was there because my friend is not an actor and he messed up and we didn't have time to do two takes. My friend was writing the dialogue real quick while I was chatting with you guys. It was something we did and edited in like 10 minutes. It was just so I can see if I can do the whole two angle with one camera deal. That was it. Please don't look at that and think it's my best work because it's not. If I were to shoot that scene in my movie (which has nothing to do with the movie), I would grab that camera and do an OTS shot on both characters. I would get another shot of both of them and then close up shots of the face and maybe of the gun being cocked and pointed and my face reaction as I looked at it. I would put in music to it as well. That was 10 minutes worth of work and like 2 of planning (if that). Don't judge me by that. I told you guys all I did it was if I can pull off the two angle thing. That's it.

As for the waiting thing, I really wish I could wait. But I'm afraid I won't be able to have this nice cast next summer. I can never do it during the school year. But next summer, most of them are out to college. It's just perfect now. I financed most of it but my sister and her husband donated $200 which helped a lot. As much as I want to wait and research more on lighting and everything, I NEED to do this ASAP. I might not get a chance to get the same cast. I don't want to let them down. And trust me, some live like an hour away. They don't want to hear that they are in the film and then be like, uh we're doing it next year. I don't want to spend too much time planning for this movie and mainly because of one reason. My camera is not the DVX. So, if I plan plan plan and plan, it still won't look like real film or atleast like the DVX. When I get my DVX and everything, I will write another script, and until I do, I will have a lot more learned especially since I made this feature. But thanks for the suggestions. I am truly thankful. Thisiswells has always been trying to help me since my first questions on this forum.

Oh yeh, and that gun is an airsoft gun. That is all I use. I bought other ones and they look so fake. I have another one (the P99) that looks like real metal. But, this is the best gear I can get.

Ok, I have a location question. For my movie, I need a Police Station since this is a cop movie. My local station won't let me shoot there because, "If I let you I will have to let everyone." (and like who else is going to ask around her...puleez) and another nearby city still hasn't called back. If I can't get a police station, what should I do? I'm stuck on this one.

I also need a garage type thing that fits like 5-6 cars. This is supposed to be the villain's house. He has these stolen cars in a garage type thing. I can't seem to find anything like that. Do you guys have any suggestions. I've searched everywhere and have called Real Estates. If you guys want to help, help me. But please don't bash on me saying to find out myself and to stop asking stupid questions, because I have been trying on this part.

Thanks for everything! God bless!

[Questionman17]

I've figured out how to do take out the flash from the black bars. Took me like an hour to find out how. I will post it as soon as possible.

[monte]

As far as locations these are things to take care of in pre-production. Also I don't know how you can expect people from the other edges of the country (and world) to help you find locations in your area.

Even so - describing things a bit better would also help, for example: Garage type thing

Garage type thing that's part of a house? One of those garage trailers used to store cars? Can it be in a remote location? How key is it to the story, etc.

[Barry_Green]

As far as the 2-guys dialog scene, if all that was was a test to see if you could figure out how to shoot with one camera, then it's fine. It was extremely amateur, but I've definitely seen worse.

But as for waiting, and not wanting to wait... let me tell you something I learned from Brett Sperry, the genius multimillionaire head of Westwood Studios, former videogame empire, creator of the (at the time) fastest-selling videogame franchise in history:

We would be all stressing about trying to make a certain shipment date, and talking about cutting out features or cutting corners to get there, etc. He said "A late game is late only until it ships. A bad game is bad forever."

Think about that.

Before you attempt a feature film, make a short film that wins top awards in two or three festivals. Once you've done that, do another. When you've done those, then you can start thinking about a feature.

Try it before you're ready, and you'll just end up wasting everyone's time and money and end up with a project you'll hide in a closet and never ever show anyone.

[Questionman17]

Well you guys can help me with suggestions on how to find it. Garage I mean just like a normal garage. Like in a location. Like a house garage but with more cars. Like the one used in Tomb Raider 1. where she made her motorcycle fly as she was shooting. It doesn't literally have to be attached to a house. i can just make it seem like it is by cutting in two different locations as they enter a door and appear in the garage. It's pretty critical. Uh, I can probably figure out something else, but then I would have to come up with a whole different part for it and that may affect the story and it may not.

[Questionman17]

Here is the clip. It's really short, but you can see how there is no flash on the black bars. I only need to figure out how to export it like that on DVD. But atleast I got this part done.

Click here to watch the clip (http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Dialogue-3)

[Questionman17]

Wait no, nevermind. I got it. I can export it to DVD now. Ok, this is how I did it. Please tell me if there is another solution because your might be better. I am using Vegas so I was limited. But what I did was I made the project properties set to NTSC widescreen. So then I cropped the video until you couldn't see anymore black bars and it fit the template widescreen. Then I just exported it as an MPEG 2 as Widescreen, and bam! the only thing is, it's in widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio. I want to make it 2.35:1 which is like really widescreen. I like it this way. It's like Bad Boys II. So if you guys have a different way I can do it in Vegas, please let me know. Thanks!

[Questionman17]

I actually want it 2.40:1 (which Panavision which is what was used for Bad Boys II)

[Questionman17]

Oh woops. lol! Maybe I can't export it to DVD. Man! I am able to export the video but not the audio. my consumer version of vegas limits me to what I can expot. It lets me export widescreen but with no audio. If I just make it a default DVD file in widescreen it won't be widescreen. it's weird.

[Norm Sanders]

Ok, that scene with the two guys (me and my friend) was a "test" shot.

Now I'm curious ... which one was you?

I can never do it during the school year. But next summer, most of them are out to college.

I'm confused. You live in a place that has no one else doing what you do (at least at the caliber you're telling us), but yet you have all these SAG actors that are raving about your script. I'm just surprised that actors in your area are SAG, as remote as it sounds. And are these SAG actors the ones that are graduating & going to college next year, or not actually in this film of yours?

Here is the clip. It's really short, but you can see how there is no flash on the black bars. I only need to figure out how to export it like that on DVD. But atleast I got this part done.

Not only is there no flash on the black bars, there are NO black bars at all. You just ended up stretching the video from top to bottom, making everything tall & skinny.

my consumer version of vegas limits me to what I can expot.

This will be a tough one for you, as even though I use Vegas, it's the pro version not the consumer version. I'm not sure if you'll find anyone on here that uses the consumer, but I could be wrong. My suggestion ... read that consumer manual from front to cover, or check on the in-software help/guides. OR purchase the pro version & then I could give you some pointers on getting more of the look you're going for. However, doesn't sound like that'll happen, as it would eat up the $200 your sister gave you & then some.

[Questionman17]

Ok, first of all, there are some people who do videos but not very dedicated like I am. Dedicated I mean as in planning and writing an entire script and spending money on making a movie. As for the SAG actors, I never said SAG actors, I said SAG actor. No S. He lives one hour away from here. But he might not end up on my movie because it isn't easy to register with SAG and he's also not responding to my phone calls. But I have other people who want his part anyway.

As for Vegas, I probably couldn't do what you guys are talking about even if I wanted to. When I watched it on Media Player, it had the bars. I don't know, maybe when I uploaded it, it didn't work. How much is the pro version anyway? I am probably going to make $300 editing a wedding.

I'm sure you can't do that thing with bars with the version of Vegas I have. I've read the entire manual before and have checked the help guides on the software. If I can't do it, what do you guys suggest I should do? Besides buying the pro version (I will in the future. I want to get Vegas 6. Just came out). Let me know. Thanks!

[Norm Sanders]

As for the SAG actors, I never said SAG actors, I said SAG actor. No S. He lives one hour away from here. But he might not end up on my movie because it isn't easy to register with SAG and he's also not responding to my phone calls.

Dude, WRONG! You said "Actors" ... as in WITH an "s". I even went back to the thread you started about two camera angles and did a quick search, because I remembered what I read ... here it is:

The people that said that may script is great are SAG actors and professional music composers and everyone else that has read it.

Maybe that's why people grew so annoyed with your comments ... you weren't watching what you were typing, as you obviously didn't mean to type what you did ... that or you were lying at the time. Either way, it's there in print, and that's just one of the reasons why some of the things you've said don't make sense to me or add up. Just IMOHO.

As for Vegas, I probably couldn't do what you guys are talking about even if I wanted to ... I'm sure you can't do that thing with bars with the version of Vegas I have. I've read the entire manual before and have checked the help guides on the software. If I can't do it, what do you guys suggest I should do? Besides buying the pro version ...

Here's a quick fix that I'm guessing you should be able to do in the consumer version. Render it out to a widescreen AVI file (working in a widescreen project setting). Then, bring that file back into a 4:3 project setting & render back out to your letterboxed 4:3 in WMV, QT, etc for web. It'll automatically place your black bars, and they won't be effected by the flashes/CC because those are only on the rendered video you brought back into the project, not done in the final 4:3 render.

How much is the pro version anyway? I am probably going to make $300 editing a wedding.

Google it, or go to Sony's website & learn about it. Once you see what the retail price is, because you're a student, you can likely get it for SUBSTANTIALLY less through an online store that offers student packages.

[Norm Sanders]

Whew! Now I just have to be strong, and not be tempted to look at this thread again to respond.

Good luck with your first feature film Q17!

[thisiswells]

TimmyTim:

I have always to tried give everyone (especially, YOU) the benefit of the doubt, but clearly you have been deceitful and despite my better intentions to tell you what you need to know to be successful, you have not responded positively to a single word I have said.

Just to send cold chills up your back, which you deserve for the way you've carried yourself and treated others, I have decided to never help you again.

Cut the bullshit.

Good day,
Brian Wells

[Loki]

Kid your hopeless if you keep having to ask these ridiculous questions..

Your not prepared at all to do a feature film.. let alone a short film..

Take yourself out of the bullshit.. one leg at a time..

Well you guys can help me with suggestions on how to find it. Garage I mean just like a normal garage. Like in a location. Like a house garage but with more cars.

or.... you could have gotten off your ass and already had this location scouted and picked out months ago..

The question comes to mind... why the hell should we even help a kid like you? You seem to know it all anyways.... with your "God given talent" and your "dedication".

Sigh... seems we get one of you guys around here every so often... too much brain.. not nearly enough brain power..

[Questionman17]

Ok, you guys can keep putting me down. But I won't go down. If you guys think I suck, that's fine, but I won't give up on this. And thisiswells, I don't think you've been reading my responses because I always thank you specifically and tell you how you've been helpful throughout the entire time. I have been using everyone's advice and I am working on it. I already apologized to you guys and I am trying to be better in these forums. That two angles forum started with a simple question, and then right away when someone put me down in a harmful way, that's when it started. It's fine. I am ready for persecution. I don't care if my movie is not the best, as long as people hear the message and learn something from it. I am trying to tell a story and have fun doing it. Man, I would love to help people with filmmaking. I always get dumb questions from my friends about editing. Dumb questions like, "How do I get rid of the audio?" Uh, just click on it and press delete. But you know what I help them without putting them down because they know I am their resource. If you guys didn't want to help me, you could've just said so. You didn't have to bash me down and treat me like dirt. I never treated you like dirt. I just tried to defend myself while you guys beat down on me. But it's fine. If you guys don't respond to this forum that's fine. If you want to keep helping me that's fine too. Either way, I'm not quitting.

For someone who wants to answer: I heard that if you render a project it doesn't lose quality. So I'm assuming rendering my file to AVI and then to 4:3 mpeg, it won't have noticeable loss of quality right? Oh yeh, and what if you want to make the widescreen wider. Vegas has it set in 16:9. Is there a way to make it wider without having those black bars. If not, I will just use the 16:9 normally (which sucks because I wanted to have it more widescreen). If you guys don't want to help, I understand. But if you do, I thank you and highly appreciate it.

God bless!

[Loki]

Kid.. nobody is putting you down..

nobody wants to deal with your stupidity anymore thats all... every single post is either something like:

"How do I get the widescreen look of bad boys II" "Oh wait I got it.."

then your start talking about how everyone is putting you down and how you will make your film no matter what... blah blah... nobody gives a shit anymore..

Your just asking questions just in hopes someone will answer... do you even read what you write?

Asking about aspect ratios really doesn't have anything to do with your music video (which still doesn't work) or with your two camera question... your just asking shit for the sake of asking now..

honestly tell me.. how does a 4:3 MPEG with a widescreen mask/a 16:9 MPEG have anything to do with any of the things people have been trying to tell you?

Does knowing this suddenly mean your going to be more prepared? No. Take my advice from before..

SHOOT YOUR FILM.

then when it is shot come back onto the forum. And stop asking these stupid ass questions.. because there are few people that want to deal with you anymore.

Take my advice, it is good. Shoot, learn from it.

and one more thing... stop trying to impress us... or whatever your trying to do.

[Norm Sanders]

Gack! Can't help it ... must respond ... urge ... too strong!

Q17, the only reason people were ripping on you in the other thread was your attitude, which you now acknowledged blew in a big way. Great, and thanks for that humility. Keep at it, it's good for you.

Then, the finaly reason you got ripped in hear ... well, again, there was some attitude, but more importantly ... you came across as a bit of a fraud when you tried to say now only 1 SAG actor thought it was great vs. before you clearly said multiple SAG actors ... with a "S".

Going forward, ask questions with humility, let the people know WHERE you've already tried looking, and what answers if any you've found. Say that you're looking for a 2nd opinion or have finally given up and just need a nudge with the right answer.

THEN, when someone gives you their advice, LISTEN to it ... if you don't like it, too bad, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and wait for someone else to correct that person. Trust me, you won't need to do it. There's enough pro's on here that if they see bad advice given, they'll jump on and clarify to make sure you get the right answer. No one here will derail you on purpose. Also, if someone puts you down for an unwarranted reason, people will come to the defense ... but, when they see that the put down was probably warranted ... well, then you're on your own. Learn from this & move on to other threads & Q's.

Now, for all your Vegas Q's, this ain't the place. Go to the Vegas forum & ask there. Clearly let them know you have only the consumer version of Vegas, so they're not trying to walk you through the pro stuff. And before you do that, read the instructions again, or do a GOOGLE for "wide screen" + "vegas" or something like that ... I'm sure you'll find what you need. In fact, search the Vegas threads for what you're looking for BEFORE asking. You'll get some respect.

[Questionman17]

Ok fine. I'm going to shoot it. I am not trying to impress no body. I am just trying to show you guys that I can edit. If it makes people clap and enjoy it, that's all that matters. They won't be picking out the small details. Just like now, if I pay attention, I can see mistakes in hollwood films. But it's all good because I enjoyed it. I am asking these questions because you guys pointed them out on the video, so I am trying to fix it because I didn't see them before. Well the black bars I did but didn't think it was too much of a problem, but I guess it is since it doesn't look professional. Most of the things I am asking you guys is post-production questions, besides the two camera angle. But besides that, I still have time to research so I don't have to worry about it. I am just about to spend like $100 on cables for the movie. I don't want to, but I have total faith in God that He will help me out on this movie. But forget it then. If you guys are sick of me asking dumb questions then don't respond or read it. I rather have you guys not respond then telling me to shutup. I get so excited to get a response but then find out it's just trash talk.

"Your hopeless...stop asking these ridiculous questions...you're not prepared...take yourself out of this bs...why the hell should we help a kid like you?"

Man, you guys are being worse than high school bullies. If you don't call that putting me down, then I don't know what you learned as a kid. I learned that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, with the exception of constructive criticism, and THAT is def. not constructive criticism. You told me to shoot, and I will. I'm way ahead of you on that one. I will learn alot. I will post my movie, and then you guys tell me if I was prepared. If you still think it's crap, then fine. But who are you to tell me I'm unprepared. You don't know anything about me or my history. You really don't. You're lying down the facts and let me lay down mine. People enjoy my movies, and if this feature will, then I'm fine with that. I have a lot of people supporting me and helping me out. I don't need people putting me down. So from now on, if I have another question, I will start a new post and if you don't want to help, don't help, and don't put me down. Let other friendly nice people help. Because I help anyone in need. everyone has a rank. I am better than some people, and you guys are better than me. Seems like you think everyone has to be awesome. No! I am still learning. everytime I edit something, it becomes better. And everytime I post something on this website, I learn something new. Guys, before this post, I considered you guys my family. Especially thisiswells. I used to go to school happy so I can talk to you guys. You guys think this is a forum, but I just think it's a friendly chat amongst filmmakers. Helping each other out. If that's not how you see it, fine. But that's how I see it.


I'm going to pray for you guys that God may touch the coldness in your hearts. That you may smile and say, "Well, that kid needs help. I'm going to help him out." I talked to this one screenwriter and he said that he would help me develop the story. After we developed the story, I asked him, "why are you doing all this for me." and he said, "I was once in your position, and many people helped me. I am just returning the favor." And that's what I will do when I grow up and become professional at this (God willing). So if anyone out there reading this needs help in anything in the future, let me know. I won't put you down or make you feel sad and make you feel like dirt. I will encourage you to keep going and tell you how to do things. Because you love what you're doing, and I do too. So I will teach you all I know.

Mark my words, "You'll see. God has a plan for me."

[Questionman17]

Envision, you're response was one of the best around here. I hear what you saying and I will take you're advice. I will tell people the answers I've found and tell them if I am truly stuck. I am sorry if I hurt anyone or got anyone annoyed. I want to start over. I am truly sorry.

[Loki]

Yes.. well when you line up my comments in row like that.. it certainly takes it out of context.

but anyways.

Gald to hear your taking advice.

Good Luck shooting.

Cheers,
your Local Norse God.

[seejay1031]

ooooooh...

another one bites the dust.

Now don't anyone take this the wrong way but I have to say that when threads get as spirited as this, something very interesting happens. The thread ceases to be informative and instead becomes... entertainment. There I said it. I religiously read the most argumentative threads to be entertained. They are like little serial installments that might get updated at any time. "ooh a new post. (reading). Ha Ha Ha. (hit refresh button)"

Congradulations on this latest installment of "DVX User and the Nutty Evangelist" - it was a classic episode. I think you ended this series on a strong note. So again - Thisiswells, Loki, Envision, John Hudson, the rest and yes, the young star, Questionman17: Bravo.

-chris

[J.R. Hudson]

It usually takes about a 100 posts for someone to show their true colors.

[Phil]

I'm just always amazed John can keep coming up with these characters and noone realizes it's him.

:wink: (you're a genius too!)

Questionman this time...next time...PostvideowithNudityman...that episode is about a guy who posts video in our screengrabs section thats porn ...and everyone tells him it's wrong, and we all get into a giant fight about censorship...

Stay tuned...

[Norm Sanders]

Don't tempt John like that!

Speaking of which, saw the "Best of Christopher Walken" on SNL last night. Anyone see his "Prankster" skit? Good stuff, right up there with "More Cow Bell"!

Oh, and Q17, you didn't hurt anyone. Thanks for the apology to all, and starting over's a great idea. I'd MAYBE even consider giving up the 100+ posts you have & starting with a new name/avatar ....

EDIT: .... oh wait, in looking at it, you've already been banned. Nevermind. Guess there's no choice now BUT to start over.

[thisiswells]

What else can I say?

http://www.undercover.com.au/pics/tednugent1978.jpg

[Norm Sanders]

That's just avatar material right there, that's all that is! Scared the crap out of me.

Didja Google that, or is that actually your mug?

[thisiswells]

Ted Nugent, 1978. Good idea about the avatar. :evil:

[Norm Sanders]

Ah, I was ... yeah, about 6 at that time.