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matthewd5
07-02-2005, 10:08 PM
hello.

i am going to be shooting a short in late july where the writer wants a very specific look that i have created in camera by adjusting chroma and color temp + adding a 1/2 pro mist filter but we are trying really hard to create the same look in After Effects + magic bullet to give us more flexibility...

can someone tell me the best way to get the footage into AE so it is truly 24p?

everything will be shot in 24pa

i've gotten footage into AE by using the interpret footage but i'm not 100% confident that that quality is maintained 100%

i had some problems where output avi's seemed to be interlaced with the fields order reversed even though i told it the footage was 24 with no fields.

perhaps i need some tips/help on render/export settings??

there was something in one of the faq's on the magic bullet site that made it sound like you needed to use a third party utility to truly get the panasonic 24p footage into/out of AE/Magic Bullet and that didn't make any sense to me.

ultimately i would need a work method where we feet the footage into AE/MB and get the look we want and then export the footage and edit it on another system.

what is the best way to render it out so it has my look changes but is in as close to original shape as far as codec etc?

matthew

matthewd5
07-07-2005, 08:42 PM
aw come on? nobody has gone through this before and can shed some light on the best way to do it?

matthew

Matt Grunau
07-11-2005, 04:41 PM
hello.

i am going to be shooting a short in late july where the writer wants a very specific look that i have created in camera by adjusting chroma and color temp + adding a 1/2 pro mist filter but we are trying really hard to create the same look in After Effects + magic bullet to give us more flexibility...

can someone tell me the best way to get the footage into AE so it is truly 24p?

everything will be shot in 24pa

i've gotten footage into AE by using the interpret footage but i'm not 100% confident that that quality is maintained 100%

i had some problems where output avi's seemed to be interlaced with the fields order reversed even though i told it the footage was 24 with no fields.

perhaps i need some tips/help on render/export settings??

there was something in one of the faq's on the magic bullet site that made it sound like you needed to use a third party utility to truly get the panasonic 24p footage into/out of AE/Magic Bullet and that didn't make any sense to me.

ultimately i would need a work method where we feet the footage into AE/MB and get the look we want and then export the footage and edit it on another system.

what is the best way to render it out so it has my look changes but is in as close to original shape as far as codec etc?

matthew

well, are you shooting in 24p or 24pa? If you are truly shooting in 24pa then you should set up your capture program to that setting, capture you video, open it in AE, and make sure AE is interpreting it properly.

Or, you can capture your footage in 24pa, export it as a Targa file sequence, set up a 24 frame comp in AE and put it in there.

Then, you render out either as 24 fps or you covet it to 29.97 out of AE.

matthewd5
07-13-2005, 12:41 AM
i'm shooting it all in 24pa

i do all capturing in premiere pro as 23.97

so am i losing quality if i just take those files captured into premiere pro as .avi and open those in AE and work them as 23.97?

i had a problem where when i rendered a simple look in AE/Magic bullet it came out with the audio being slightly out of sync, worse the farther you got into the project.

i assume that was because the frame rate for video/audio didn't match??

can you explain a little more that option of exporting the targe file seq? i've always wanted to try that but step by step directions would be a godsend on how to do that.

matthew

Shooter
07-25-2005, 07:56 PM
Both AE and PremPro have Render / Export outputs that are 'Lossless'. They are options amongst many. ( You do not want to recompress as you export from PremPro)

Theoretically that means there is no loss from your original DV.avi and between applications.


You said "ultimately i would need a work method where we feet the footage into AE/MB and get the look we want and then export the footage and edit it on another system".

I would suggest that for efficiency and speed you do any CC / Magic Bullet or FX ...after you edit & NOT BEFORE. The processes are slow and you should work with less volume of material and it should be your final cut, not your rushes.