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duder1234
04-17-2012, 05:44 PM
Hey Guys,

I'm looking into ND filter(s) for my GH2 and was hoping to get some feedback.

Im going to go with 77mm for the ND filter...I figure this should cover a wide array of lens options in the future.

Currently, I have a Voigtlander Nokton 25mm 0.95 and a Canon FD 35mm. So, Ill need a 77-52 step ring for the Nokton and a 77-55 for the Canon.

Now, I'm trying to decide if I should get a few different filters or a single ND fader?

Also, is IR within the filter required for the GH2?

My options so far:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/729105-REG/Tiffen_W77INDSTDKT_77mm_Indie_Standard_Infrared_Ne utral.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/619625-REG/Singh_Ray_R_86_77mm_Vari_ND_Neutral_Density.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/609253-REG/Singh_Ray_RT_86_77mm_Vari_ND_Variable_Neutral.html

Not sure what the diffence is between those (the two Vari-ND's)...other than the "thin mount" option.

Thanks!

Jaime Valles
04-17-2012, 06:37 PM
I was in a similar situation last month. I went with the regular ND filters by Tiffen (not vari-ND or ND+IR). Much, much cheaper, and by all accounts they have better quality than any variable ND (no color casts or resolution drop). It only takes a second to swap out the individual NDs. And you don't even need to screw them in all the way to check exposure. Just hold them in front of the lens while looking at the monitor. When you find the filter with the correct exposure, THEN screw it in.

I got a kit with .6, .9 and 1.2 NDs, as well as a Formatt Graduated ND 1.2 filter. I don't really think that a .3 ND is all that useful, but that's just me. And the Grad ND rocks.

Shenan
04-17-2012, 09:13 PM
Or go with this type of solution (which is what I did, but haven't actually used it yet): http://www.cokin.co.uk/
(http://www.cokin.co.uk/)
I agree on using fixed NDs for the same reasons that Jaime mentioned.

brunerww
04-17-2012, 10:12 PM
duder,

I have a 77mm Opteka Vari ND (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004R4949I?tag=battleforthew-20), but never use it because I bought an inexpensive matte box with a Cokin P mount built in (http://www.amazon.com/aIR-Matte-Matte-Box-77MM-Mount/dp/B005PIQ77M?tag=battleforthew-20). ND filters were dirt cheap, either as a set (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Neutral-Density-Filter-Series/dp/B00759TQ7W?tag=battleforthew-20) or individually (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=cokin+nd#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=cokin+nd+full+gray&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Acokin+nd+full+gray?tag=battlef orthew-20).

It takes a whole lot less time to slide a filter in than to screw one on.

Cheers,

Bill

rovanpera
04-18-2012, 12:21 AM
my vari ND (fader ND) is not very even when you need to step down a lot. also with wide angles you might get uneven skies because the vari is not a real nd but a polarizer... I would go with real NDs.

DBP
04-18-2012, 04:00 AM
my vari ND (fader ND) is not very even when you need to step down a lot. also with wide angles you might get uneven skies because the vari is not a real nd but a polarizer... I would go with real NDs.

Same. I brought a cheap-o Polaroid Vari-ND for about 60$. I was actually surprised in how little it softened the image. There seems to be no weird color shift, just a less contrasty and saturated image. The sky can end up quite uneven, though, as I learned this past weekend.

If you're going to get a vari-nd, get the heliopan, or don't bother. There's some german site that's selling it for about 300$ including shipping and taxes.

http://www.fotomayr.de/webkat98/homepage.php?/html/006620.HTM

stoneinapond
04-18-2012, 07:06 AM
If you're going to get a vari-nd, get the heliopan,

Agreed. Just spent a week with a 67mm version. Very nice, no image degradation, and the stops at either end are a godsend. The other thing is that I found with a little practice I could use my little finger to adjust the filter while shooting (very small adjustments) since the construction of the filter is superb.

My only issue with it is that there is no front thread, so a lens cap solution needs to be found.

brunerww
04-18-2012, 07:24 AM
My only issue with it is that there is no front thread, so a lens cap solution needs to be found.


FYI - I have the same problem with the Opteka :-(

duder1234
04-18-2012, 09:51 AM
Thanks for all the info guys!

Went ahead and ordered the Tiffen Indie kit .3, .6, .9, 1.2 ND.

The grad ND is also on my list...but one thing at a time.

Thanks again!

b_k
04-18-2012, 11:22 AM
I have the Fader ND MK II. It's primarily used on my Canon FD 50mm. It does ok. Light Craft has a new higher end variable ND: http://lightcraftworkshop.com/fader-nd-digi-pro-hd-round.html

For that price, I'd consider making my own using good quality polarizers.

griplimited
04-19-2012, 04:55 PM
I went thru this with Vari and ended up with Tiffen Indie kit as well. I never tried it before and could imediately see my sharpness back to normal.

With it, I bought a B+W CPL filter. I think that will hold me off for a while.

Minor
04-20-2012, 07:04 AM
I have the polaroid vari one. It's nice but can be problematic at skies or if pushed to maximum closure.

Recent sky footage with the nd on:

https://vimeo.com/40673026

GHKAM
01-11-2013, 07:29 AM
Is there any vignetting with the Tiffen .9?

If you were to buy just one ND filter to start, would the .6 or .9 be more useful for outdoor use?