"just like you"

[Rich Lee]

link to file..right click and save target as
http://www.rich-lee.com/BFJLY.mov

http://www.rich-lee.com/bf.htm

[J.R. Hudson]

Jeez Rich

That is honestly as professional as anything I have ever seen. *Amazing work. *Great. *Wow. *The coloring, comps, lighting. *I am impressed. *Way to represent not only the DVX but DV Filmmakers. *I cant wait to see the whole thing. *Im enjoying the body of work you have shown. *I like this not only for the technical execution but for the concept as well. *Everyone should pay attention to this.

By the way, that song kicks ass and your website is in my FAVS list.

[Dan_Lahav]

Rich-
I must say you post the most impressive footage out of anyone on this board (sorry matt ::)). I really love your work... I look forward to seeing the final cut!

[Drew599]

Looked very cool, can't wait to see the finished product. Did you use any filters while shooting or was most of the look done in post.

[Isaac_Brody]

Sweet progress Rich. Definitely some of the most impressive and polished stuff I've seen from the DVX. How about some technical details. When you get a chance how bout shedding some light on your production, and especially post work. Awesome work.

[Mark_Monciardini]

Awesome job. Was magic bullet used for coloring?

Could you share how the set was created and how and where you got to use all the equipment etc?

[J.R. Hudson]

(sorry matt ::)).

LOL I thought the same thing. (No offense Matt; you know you do kick ass work!). From a conceptual point of view EVERYONE should take note. Not your usual 'pretty' music video. SOme real thought and originality went into this one

IMHO as always.

[Rich Lee]

hey thanks guys, great to hear that people are diggin it so far. today was the first time i showed anything to a member of the band, and he was totaly diggin it. i was so nervous, this is my first music video, and was waiting for the call thinking he was going to hate it...

As far as camera goes, we had a dvx and a .6 lens. No filters. We rented 4 4' kinos, and a 1k arri light. I dont know any dp's that would do this for free, so i did all the lighting setups, pretty fun actualy, that was the first time i have attempted a professional lighting setup. anyway...we also rented a little doorway dolly and a porta jib.

The blured border and the vignetting was all done in AE. complimented by a little magic bullet action. Im also adding a little shake to the frame that is tied to the levels of the music. Im still messin around with that part of the look, the shaky image thing. Also doing ALOT of compositing, and some 3d work in XSI.

The location is a standing hospital set in west la. They rent it out with alot of medicallooking equipment included. At pretty reasonable prices. The set is actualy pretty trashy when you walk in though, but if you frame it right, and have some cool stuff inside it, it works ok. it looks like a run down hospital that hasnt been kept up in 20 years, smells like it too. None of the floors are anywhere near level, and most of the walls are broken/rotting away.

anyway...

[Policar]

That was sweet...well lit, great color correction, too. Looks expensive.

I'm so jealous that you can model a human head without absolutely freaking out. I think I've cried before. Subdivision, the surface modifier, you name it, I've failed to make a human face with it....

I would never have guessed you'd shot on dv, though the .6 lens makes the DOF even more infinite so it doesn't quite look like film either....(but the blurred edges soften this somewhat.)

Anyhow, that was awesome.

[Staven]

This freakin' rocks. I've been in awe of the frame grabs you've put on here for a while, and this only heightens your obvious talent. You could hire yourself out as a DoP with this as your reel. Congrats, waiting patiently for the final outcome.

[Rich Lee]

Thanks again guys...cant wait to show you the whole thing.

Modeling those heads would take me forever....poser man! I havnt had to model a body part in ages...well maybe 2 years or soo..

Thanks John, i cant wait to shoot the rest of it and get it in the cut. It could very easly have been a performance video, but the band was down with trying something different. Luckly i talked with them when i did, they havnt been signed yet, and they just now have been meeting with lawyers and reps. The band told them about the video and they (lawyers and reps) get a little freaked, cause there is no performance other then Riddler (the singer in the vid), they want them to have some performance in the video cause they are so unknown. But after one of the guys in the band saw a bit of the cut today, he was worried that they would ruin it if they put any performance in it at all. So hopefully once its done the band will feel strongly enough about it being strictly conceptual that we can just leave it be. we shall see...

peace!

[J.R. Hudson]

Hmmm. The dilemma. If the band just HAS TO BE IN IT then IM sure you will come up with interesting ways to incorporate this (maybe as fellow patients being wheeled by or even dead ones or even experiments or surgeries gone wrong. LOL )

Love it.

[Pais]

Very, very polished work.

I'm kind of curious why you "triplicated" the doctor guy -- is there a greater significance to that in the complete video? I just thought it was sorta funny. ;)

[Neil Rowe]

..very very nice! i cant really say much more than whats been said already. excellent job!


..but on a side note, ive been aware that most of the excellent MV work we see around here is all shot at very wide angle(in this case even using an additional wide angle lense) with everything in sharp focus. and then some form of partiall blurring, blur vignetting, or DOF simulation is added in post with the color correction. this gives it that high polished sharp and contrasty MV look(but of course the main "look" factor is lighting). occasionally theres a shot with actual DOF from macro or from a tele position. IMHO its just kinda funny cause everyone is always quackalacking about DOF around here, but the things they like the most have the least DOF. ..now i also understand that the same production techniques applied throughout a feature film might drive a person crazy after 10 minutes due to the editing style of films vs MVs, and of course the length and content. but in the MV world its a very stylish, and appropriate avenue to get "the look" that we obviosly all love.
...so please take notice people. DOF is NOT the end all be all big whammo factor in making somthing look filmic, or good. its just another tool in the bag.

:)

[Chenopup]

Great Job, Rich.

Would be nice to have some of these projects "deconstructed" for others on the forum. Lots of good info that could be shared.. perhaps Jarred could put up a behind the scenes forum....

I'm guessing the placards were the clips with the doctor / nurses against the "minority report" wall? - That's a great effect to dupe if so.

mike

[araujofh]

Hey Rich, really cool! It was amazing.
You have the skills.

All the best

Fidel.

[alpi69]

all i can saqy is :o.
concept, edit, shots of course, compisiting, 3dwork , even the song is good.

[taubkin]

Rich, man, that was magnificent!!!

Loved what you did with the colors (or the lack of them...), and tought it was very cool how you got away with having a softbox in frame on the Surgery master shot! It really works there. The part where the lights start to turn on is also very nice. Is beatifully done and very well produced, besides you really add to the production value with the very nice CG. That tomography thing looks so real! I'm guessing you come from a post production background, no?

[Young-H._Lee]

Rich, like I have said many times, you are my hero!

Please make me your disciple

Totally professional, extremely well done, and I gotta learn your AE and XSI skills!!

[Arcburn]

very very nice rich. I'm impressed.

[dvpixl]

goodness that was awesome! what is a .6 lens? it's for dvx?

that's on a dvx!

[bgundu]

nice use of lighting and color correction. However, the rotoscoping with the triple doctors is a little sloppy. I'm sure this is on your to-do list. Keep up the great work!

[Rich Lee]

Thanks guys...

Chenopup- glad you liked the wall with nurses and docs. none of it was "borrowed" we shot it all and i made the diagram thats displayed on it. It definitly has a minority report feel about it, also a little inspiration camer form the empire strikes back, there is a scene in that snow complex they have, with a guy looking at a glass wall with little markers on it. i always thought that was a cool thing, super flat panel transparent monitors, that are touch sensitive.

taubkin-i have some experience in post production, i wouldnt say that was my background though. i think i did post work for about a year or so. i have more preproduction experience now then anything...my background is mostly sculpture and fabrication.

DvPixl- the .6 lens is a wide angle attachment lens for the dvx. made by century optics. actualy, i made a mistake saying that is was the .6 lens, it was actualy the .7 lens. i used to have the .6 for my xl1s so always get them mixed up now.

Bob Gundu- yup, almost all of the roto work is sloppy right now. the shots just needed to be good enough to be legible for the moment.

Pais- i get a kick out of that shot too, so funny. yes, the mulitple doctor thing will play out through the video. if you look now you will see some of it already even with the girl and other shots with the guy, im trying to not making it too obvious yet that everyone is the same, what we see at the end should make people realize a bit whats going on.

[natob2]

I'm really glad to see a new talent posting stuff.

Aesthetically, you've got some beautiful work here.

Are you a shooter? Director? You (or your director) have representation? If you do have representation with a production company send me a private message...I'd love to get a reel on DVD.

And if you haven't gotten representation, and you're a director, you should really go for it.


-Nate Brown/DDB Chicago

[jasonk]

yeah mon, great work. the only thing i didn't like was that the pace starts to drop off or something later in the comp, but sweet jeebus, it's amazing. keep it up!

[Peter_Gaudry]

Frigging brilliant - this is what I'll be aiming for when I shoot my first music vid next week.

That's another thing - your FIRST music vid? Bloody hell.

Well done Rich - how about some camera settings?

[Beat Takeshi]

Yo rich, thats hot man. I cant wait to do another music video now.

[taubkin]

Ok, Rich, then I have to say you are incredibly talented. Keep it up! It was killer stuff!

[Rich Lee]

Nate- Yes im the dir. i dont have a rep, im still pretty new to making my own films and whatnot. last summer was the first time i ever directed anything. at some point i'd like see about getting signed by a production company. but i feel i need a few more strong pieces on my reel before i go down that road.

jasonk- yeah, it falls off towards the end. I havnt messed with that part so much, cause thats about when we will transition into the next scene, which we will shoot next week sometime.

Peter_Gaudry- The settings were, 24pa, gamma=cine like, Knee=Mid, Matrix=Cine like. I think if i did it again i would set the gamma to low. I got some blue fring in a bunch of shots thats really annoying.

Young-H._Lee- get on it dude, you have xsi yet? ae? when you gonna have some work to show? I highly recommend this site...http://contest.3dluvr.com/ when i first started using softimage i entered a couple of the contests there (check out contest 20 and 21 in the archive) anyway, its a great place to go for someone starting out.

Thanks everyone for the comments so far, its very encouraging!

[Chris Messineo]

Rich,

Very impressive. Definitely one of my favorites. Amazing imagery.

Two thoughts:

First, while I like the fuzzing/blurring of the edges, it is a little too strong for my taste.

Second, about 1:04 into the video as it goes into the chorus, it feels like there needs to be a more dramatic cut there, something that ramps up in time with the song (does that make sense?).

Overall though, amazing stuff, and a great song. Now, if I could just get the song out of my head. :)

Chris

[cinebuddy]

Rich, that video kicks major ass!!!

[HDproducer]

Rich,

I too am very impressed with your progress on this project. Being that the band is unsigned, dare I ask the budget that you're pulling off all this magic with? Also, what city are you in?

[robeditor2003]

Rich,

Good job.. keep up the good work. yeah what was the budget on it? how about your camera setting? I live in Glendale if you need a DP on anything.

Rob

[ryanwaggoner]

wow...that's all I can say. Rich, I think that's the absolute best thing that I've seen on here. You both inspire me and make me want to throw in the towel :)

Thanks for sharing your work...

Ryan

[Rich Lee]

Hey thanks guys.

The budget for the video once its finished will probably be around 5g's. No one on the crew was paid, and about half of that money went to getting locations. And then a good chunk went to equipment. We made cool/cheap costumes. I will post some higher rez clips later. but i love the outfits that we made for the surgery, alot of plastic and tyvek, i was very happy with them. I also bought a bunch of medical prop things on ebay, and we purchased like a dozen little 12" fluorescent lights, and a dozen or so lights of america fluorescent fixtures. and a bunch of misc things, oh, and craft service...which i dont think i ate any of, cause i was so pressured for time.

HDproducer- I live in los angeles.

Rob- dude, im in atwater village, like a mile from glendale...small frickin world eh? I will check out your site...

Ryan- thanks man, dude, definitely dont throw in the towel. or if you do, make sure its because your shooting a boxing movie and there is a shot where a towel need to be thrown.

[watson]

hey saw your stills a while back thought they looked great, but its great finally getting to see the video, it blew my mind. probably the best music video i have seen on here. freaking awesome.

[pywl]

Rich, First off awesome work on your video. Youu have done great with all your work. I love R&D (Made me laugh till it hurt.)

Second, I love the fight club clips on your website!!!!!!

Keep up all the good work!

[Rich Lee]

Thanks watson!

pywl- thanks man, i like the fight club images too! i think i will add more in other places on the site. Glad you liked R7D, I think we almost died while making it. we were working late one night, like 2am, and i have my vid cam and a wide angle lens. i was just fuckin around, derek (the D in R&D) was really trying to get some work done, but i was just so over it. It all happined by accident, we so didnt plan that thing. Anyway, after we fucked around, i captured it, and played it back at double speed. We seriously, laughed like complete retards for like half an hour watching it over and over. we were so excited to show everyone at work the next day our little creation. the next day, 2 of the girls in the office had tears in their eyes watching it and everyone else was on the floor laughing, it was awesome! yup, goodtimes....

[Carrington Benz]

Definitely one of the best pieces i've seen on here - love that color - is that using MB ?

Rich - that R&D was amazingly funny - loved it *:)

Your work is great - is this a day job thing for you ?
Good luck on the video - sure it will be mtv'd soon.

Also - I have had that annoying blue fringe on the side too - why is that ?

How did you get the multiplicity vibe on that - I only just realized on the second viewing ::)

Any other projects in the pipeline - any short films ?

[Rich Lee]

Hey Carrington thanks for checkin it out.

Its not my day job, i work in the film biz doing previsualization for movies. I hope someday to dir for living, we shall see.

Yes, that blue fringe sucks, it has something to do with exposure with the dvx. check out this thread at dvinfo.net (i would have posted it here, but i hadnt yet become of a member of dvxuser)

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26631&highlight=blue+fr inge

To get the mulitple thing i shot the same actors in passes and am doing roto in after effects to layer them in the same comp.

Glad you noticed it, the multiple thing gets setup a bit earlier in the video and plays out the whole way through, and there is a bigger reveal of it at the end. the idea is that everyone in the video looks the same, except for the lead singer.

no other projects right now. just trying to finish this video. i might do another vid for the same band.

[J.R. Hudson]

Hi Rich

Any particular programs you are using for doing previs?

[Rich Lee]

Hey John, we use softimage xsi and maya. Somtimes after effects to add some sort of explosion or lens flare or whatever to jazz up the image a bit. And we edit/sound work in premiere/pro, although depending on when we come on a film, we just hand the individual shots to the editors.

[TC]

That is simply amazing. I didn't read your entire post before I watched the clip, and the whole time I was wondering if it was really DVX.

Very beautiful. Excelent job.

[Guest]

Rich you rock!!!
1: how do you do the shake thingand the blures edges on AE
any tutorials on line?
2: which one do u prefer XL1s vs. DVX100A?
3: were the docs/nurses shot against blue or green screen?
4: I live near LAX can I hold some light or cable on your next shoot....

great, promising, visionarie.

[Rich Lee]

TC- Thanks, Its all about getting a clean image from the dvx and color correcting the hell out of it. The dvx is an amzing camera, i had the chance to shoot a couple TEMP inserts for a film im working on that was shot on super 35. After a bit of color correction, and once the editor cut them in (they are editing in video), people totaly forgot that they were shot with a video camera, they blend in pretty well. Its so funny, cause now, we are going into reshoots. and people are going, why do we have to reshoot those shots? People who dont know are basicly thinking its cause the director wants a different angle or something, but in reality, its cause its shot witha video camera, not film. funny....

mustaine-
1: i did the shake in after effects. using expressions i linked up the audio levels of the clip to drive the clips position. no tutorials though, sorry.
2: i prefer the dvx over the xl1s, hands down.
3: no green or blue screen. i just had them move over to a new place, and shot mulitple passes. i also shot a clean plate (no people) and im experimenting with difference keys. but they only work with locked off shots.
4: sure, send me an email.

[solproductions]

That looks awesome and the feel to the video is great! Let's see more of your work.

pete

[J.R. Hudson]

Rich no doubt has shown the best work yet in my opinion. Honestly, I cant think of a better example technically than this. Panasonic should give him like 10 free DVX's.

[gcaus]

Awesome. A lot better than the XL2 vs DVX debate... shows you can spend more time making the vid!

Definitely has that Minority Report look.

Wow!

Could you tell me how many man hours (months!) you took in post production for visuals?

-Jerry

[Guest]

cool
thanx man

[Rich Lee]

10 cameras! We could start doing matrix style bullet time camera setups with 10 cams!

Thanks for the complement John.

Jerry- For that clip, i think i spent off and on about 2 weeks doing post. That would be editing/compositin/modeling/animating. There is also more of the edit that i am not showing yet, as well as some other vfx type stuff. Also, im not doing this during the day, usualy if i have time i do a little bit a night and a bit on the weekends.

I still have a long way to go though.

[Danielxm]

Its trully a work of art. Sharp, very well lit, excelent pacing, camera work and movements, script, post. It is great man! As mentioned it is the best work seen so far of the capabilities of the dvx100.

Well look forward to seeing the final clip.

Congrats!!

Daniel M.

[cjoyce]

You will probably be leavin' us here soon..... goin' bick time. Simply put... SOLID.

Chris Joyce

ps. maybe it was my connection, but I thought I saw a little person towards the end, after the red led readout but before the fluid drip......? Looked like they were standing in a pile of, well, pubic hair. It must be LATE....

[gcaus]

Can I get a CD with more of their music?

Seriously.

(OK, finally found something to critique! I work in a hospital, and after watching the vid about 10 times - jamming the whole time, I noticed how dirty the instruments are during the scene where you show them laying on the tray/cart. Fingerprints, etc... But I don't think anyone else will notice ;D)

I really hope you got to play doctor with some of the talent : ;)
-Jerry

[Ndelallana]

this is some really sweet stuff.

very "chris cunningham - aphex twin" type look to it...congrats on your work!

[Rich Lee]

cjoyce- i believe the little person you saw is marilyn manson standing in a field, im using a couple inserts from a video of his until i shoot something similer, the pubic hair would be grass. ;)

gcaus- :D fuckin fingerprints! yeah, that sucks....if i can i will reshoot that. we were moving so fast that we just glossed over some things...didnt see the fingerprints untel i catured the clips. i was trying so hard to shoot in a real hospital but they were going to charge like 10g's. The girl is pretty sweet, in some of the shots she looks like angelina jolie. She has a really sexy australian accent. Here is the bands site www.buckfastmusic.com

Ndelallana- thanks, chris cunningham has done some of my favs. the bjork alll is full of love video is amazing.

[Ndelallana]

no prob. when i saw your video, i immediately thought of cunningham's "come on my selector - aphex twin" video...i think its the whole futuristic hospital thing.

dude, if we ever need a DP for a sci-fi flick, you're the man!

[gcaus]

I'm not sure people pick up on the fingerprints, but it doesn't go with the "look"...

BTW, your quicktime vid is so clean. For example, I just looked at Heads or Tails trailer on another thread, and didn't compare to your clean look.

Did you do something special?

-Jerry

[Arcburn]

Rich, is the video finished? Or is everyone still talking about the clip. The clip is awesome still, but I just dont want to be missing out if everyone has seen the finished product.

[Rich Lee]

Ndelallana- i love the come on my selector video.

gcaus- i used sorenson squeeze to make that quicktime, its great at making quality compressions at small file sizes.

Arcburn- nope, still talking about the clip. i will post when i have it done, hope to shoot the rest by next week. next time i will shoot it all in one go, rather then this peacemeal shiznit.

[DarkOne]

Hey Rich,

Simply spectacular. I know a video is good on this site when I get immediately jealous! Really raises the bar for the rest of us as far as visual treatments and production design go. You'll go far in the business. This has really challenged me to raise the bar on the quality of my music video work. It didn't hurt that you got a nice little budget to work with. Honestly, that video can be appraised around $25-$50k. If you tell people that it was shot on film for that budget, they will believe it.

Great job guy. Looking forward to seeing the final cut and more work in the future.

Cheers,

Anthony
Darkroom Pictures
Where we develop bright ideas
www.darkroompix.com

[robeditor2003]

Rich,

Hey man Rob here. you live close man we should work on something with each other. let me know if you are down with that maybe your next video..

peace

[robeditor2003]

Rich,

In your video I think its the talent he's talking on a intercom with a picture on the screen. Can you please tell me how you did that move. i would love to know in detail if you can. Please PM or email I live down the street from you.

thanks,

rob

[Rich Lee]

Anthony- thanks man. your working on a video yeah? i remember some super cool stills you took of a bridge that i thought looked like something out of akira or ghost in the shell. peace.

Rob- I made a little intercom out of a phone and a small thin speaker then i tracked the edges of the speaker/monitor in after effects to a piece of footage with the guys face. I used Mesh Warp to match the perspective of the video footage to the BG. Then i added some glow. Let me know if that helps. i will email you in a bit.

[robeditor2003]

rich,

thanks man looking forward to that email..

rob

[Unix]

is it ready yet???

how about some camera settings used on that carnival/county fair video, looks tight

rich where did u learn AE

aaight later

[Rich Lee]

unix-sorry man, its taken awhile. just shot the rest of the video last friday. Editing now. Should have something by the end of the month. I have a rough cut of the whole video. but without a bunch of fx work in yet, it just wouldnt make sence to anyone. as it is, i hope that even with the fx done it will makes sence :-/ we shall see...

i leardid after fx on the job and just messing around ALOT at home. i first got into it when i had to composite cg elements that we would make for videos and whatnot. then i got a xl1s and would shoot little things and then screw around with it in AE.

I'll let you know when i get the video closer.

peace out!

[Young-H._Lee]

Can't wait Rich, I just got the DVX too! Keep up the great work

[Guest]

Rich,

Found your movie "Precursor" (which I thought was awesome) on triggerstreet, then someone told me you were a member here.

I would like to see this video everybody is talking about but it's not available on your website. Is there any other way to see it.

Also, if you have some time, could you give me some more specific technical information on how you got the look for "Precursor"? Thanks.

chris

[Rich Lee]

hey c.g. eads...yeah, im still finishing that video...its become fucking epic! its taking me FOREVER. and its probly going to kinda suck... :-/


anyway...

yah, precursor. all xl1s in frame mode with available light, and heavy processing with AE. i will look to see if i have any grabs of the footage before i treated it. looks alot like xl2 footage.
shoot me off an email if you have any specific questions aboot it...

also...check http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=798baf391caa6ed74ab12fb64e9d7434& threadid=22981

its a thread i started back when i first uploaded it to the net.

thanks for checking it out man!

[Kirk Gillock]

I'm a first time poster, long time reader. I recently purchased a DVX100 camera and, can only hope, the footage I shoot looks as good as yours. Great stuff!

I'm sure, sometime in the near future, we'll all be able to say, "I remember Rich Lee when...."

Good luck finishing the video.
Isara

[Young-H._Lee]

Rich, I took a close look at your icon...is that you doing some kind of magical powers?? :o

[Rich Lee]

UPDATE:10-17-04

http://www.rich-lee.com/bf.htm

Hey guys. heres the latest version of the entire buckfast video. Its still in progress. but its getting close. i have a few minor changes to make.

Do you guys like the shakyness? is it distracting?...im kinda on the fence about it.

peace!

ps. dont mind the dvx siting in one of the shots. it will be taken out soon. also there is a really dodgy cg head bandaged tracked into a shot...ignore it! it will be better!

[seantree]

just watched the entire thing and was blown away. The only things i picked up on was a scene where the roto on the male actors looked dodgy, and the Cg bandages that you already pointed out.
Very cool video. I knew what was going on the entire time, just wasn't sure which one he wanted to be "just like" You seem to be a one man production co. pre-viz, directing , editing and post work, along with doing some CG. damn!!! BTW, I read that you use XSI, i'd get into it if i could get my head around the UI, for now I'm using 3ds max and looking forward to the version 7 release. Anyway, great work, and I'm sure the band will impressed. Keep it up!

[Carrington Benz]

Your damn right - they wil be impressed !
This is gonna turn into one of those gigantic threads & it truly deserves it.
Awesome work here! the bar has been raised big time.

Nuff said 8)

[donbarzini]

Rich, totally kick ass! The color is so cool, did that involve multiple overlays? I'm sure Buckfast will be more than pleased and forever in your debt.

[Rich Lee]

cool thanks guys!

seantree- 3d max with mental ray should be killer. mental ray is bitchin!

donbarzini-do you mean mulitple overlays for the color correction? i used magic bullet for this one. it works pretty well.



i just sent the band a link....we shall see....

[donbarzini]

Thanks Rich,

I was referring to the color, did you start with a particular preset with MB?

[Rich Lee]

ah, yes, i used the bleach bypass setting in MB.

btw. the main guy from the band just saw it and totaly dug it! hes going to show it around to the rest of the band and to their producer and marketing guys. so im just going to make the few changes i need to make and do the vfx clean up.

peace!

[watson]

hey i loved it, best thing i have ever seen on here. got a question. At the very end when the frame flips up and down (like on a projector), how did you do that? was it a filter? if so, which one if you dont mind me asking, i've been looking for something to do that with for a little while. thanks

[Rich Lee]

thanks watson. i hand animated the projector look in after effects. im sure there are filters that do it though. all i did was bring that shot into a comp with the audio, and animated it going up and down to the music. then added motion blur...then i duplicated that piece 4 times without the animation and placed them one above the other and parented them to the original. this way they moved with the original one i animated and whenever the original went out of frame there was another one there to take its place...i then overlayed some text and fringe on the boarders.

[robeditor2003]

Rich,

What are some good plugins to have for After effects?

[TimurCivan]

its great!!!!

but the frame shake was driving me insane.... its cool buti feel like it should be stronger in the begining, then gently fade down. you can keep it but its hard to look at a frame bounce that much every 3/4 a second.

but other than that its amazing work. I love the Editing and the composition

[Gary_McClurg]

Like others said jerky in the beginning. *But otherwise really well done. *But the biggest thing is you gave away the fact that he changed into the girl too soon. *As soon as you see the red lips. We shouldn't know this until the very end.

[Rich Lee]

sweet! thanks guys. i think im going with the no shake version...much easier on the eyes.

Gary_McClurg- thanks for reinforcing that. i have to color correct the lip to be a lip with no lipstick...i wish we would have shot her with out makeup on the day but we just had no time at all. now she is gone on a dance tour so she isnt around. anyway, i tried, but im colorblind as hell! so i am having a friend color correct the lips and eyes...need to get rid of the eye makeup as well...and the ear rings.

rob- the plugins i use all the time are. frischluft for lens blur. all the RE: plugins like motion blur and twixtor, magic bullet, knoll lens flare, and grain surgery. but it looks like AE 6.5 has GS in it now...so its all good.

thanks for checking it out!

[Unix]

what up Rich
well since I didn't see any updates for a while I went to BF's website and they'll be playing in LA sometime in Nov. (guess u already new that) are they gonna be premiering the vid out there?

talking about premiere what program was this edited on?

you mean u don't have AE 6.5 yet?

how about combustion 3?

if u wanna change just one specific color, it can be easily
done on Pinnacle's liquid Edition 5.5, (color replace) *6 just came out but I don't know much about new features.


the vid is bad ass, the guy looks like Layne from Alice in chains

it feels at times like that "one" vid (metallica)

bleach bypass??????????????? *that's it??????



* I shot some amusement park stuff last year, I'll post a link later



holla

[Rich Lee]

hey unix, i used premiere pro 1 to edit. i have ae 6.5, but i just havnt gotten around to using it yet or installing the any plugins ...so im just sticking with 6.0. also i try not to get into new versions of software too fast so that i can do alot of this stuff on work machines...we dont always get the new software right away. as far as the color correction, it was the bleach bypass setting in magic bullet, and i made a little psd file for the vignetting.

i hear combustion is great. im just more comfortable sticking with the abobe stuff.

i just looked up Layne from Alice in chains and yeah, they do totaly look similer! i think the metallica one video had a similer look...it was coolish and contrasty..right? i havnt seen it in a while.

i havnt kept up too much with where the band plays...they just moved to los angeles and have been playing at the viper room alot. and they just got back from a west coast tour. i think they are going to do well.

definitly post the amusement park stuff man..is it dvx footage?

peace

[Unix]

cool

it's on Cafe a la DVX it was moved from screen grabs

unfortunatelly is not DVX the details are on the post

http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX2/YaBB.pl?board=Offtopic;action=display;num=10980773 87

cheers.

[mrbimmer]

AWESOME....nice work... ;D

[STORYTELLER32]

Hey Rich,
Really nicely done. The post work is absolutely amazing. I can only imagine how many hours you sit in front of the computer! The directional stuff was well done too. Did you have a crane in the doctors consulting office?

You asked about the shaking and if it's bothersome. I'm assuming the shaking is a post addition and not on the source footage. If that's the case, maybe you want to try to time the shaking to the beats of the music? It would take some work to do but might add an aditional cool element to the feel of the piece.

How did you get the medical lab location?

[mediamogul]

Awesome looking video! Lots of great stuff on your site too! ;D

[Moe]

WOW, I'm very impressed! that has got to be the best video I've seen on this forum! The song is pretty cool too.

[Moe]

Did I mention how much I like the song? ;D

[watson]

rich thats awesome you did that projector look on your own, its so sweet, thanks for the tips.

[cinebuddy]

That video isn't just one of the best on the forum...that video can hold its own anywhere. *It is plain f'n sharp!

-Rich
What is your workflow like between your NLE and after effects? Thanks

[Mikel_Low]

Rich ...





I h@te you man ... nah ... not really. I love your work Rich ... you are an incredible talent. I'm still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor.

Did you make a behind the scenes video for this video?

[speedbump]

Rich, I'm glad to see the 'almost final' version of this video. Comes together nicely. You've still got an artifact or two around the head of one of those guys doing the three doctor shot pushing the gurney.

I dislike the frame flipping at the end, and I agree with whoever said you give the punchline away too early with the face unveiling. Her lips ARE a giveaway!

Otherwise, fantastic. Inspirational for my music video work, thanks for sharing.

[Rich Lee]

thanks for the comments so far guys!

STORYTELLER32-we paid for the lab place. its a standing set in west los angeles. yeah, we rented a portajib from wooden nickle in north hollywood. i took the shake out completly in the version thats online now.

cinebuddy- once i have some time tonight i will tell youa bit about my workflow between premiere and AE.

Mikel_Low- we didnt do a making of. i think some of the band guys had some digicams with them. not sure how well documented the shoot was. if i find some i will upload some stills to my site.

speedbump-yeah, that lip shot...just isnt working. i was hoping to get away with it. i just really really like it...but its causing more problems then its worth...i'll mess around with it some more to see if i can get it to work...but i might just have to ditch it...i think i have some shots of a chin i can replace it with...thanks for the comments man!

thanks guys!

[disjecta]

Rich, really fine work. Extremely professional and a great look. I'm not a fan of choppy editing in general but I loved it in this video.

There's not much more to say other than you are a true artist.

Thanks for sharing.

[Rich Lee]

thanks for the complement disjecta! *i learned a whole lot from this and cant wait to do the next one. i think the choppy edit has its place. i needed it in this one just to get through the amount of stuff i wanted to show. the jump cuts in the earlier bits especialy, we just dont have time to sit through the guy walking in and meeting and leaving frame or sitting down. i tried to make it as classy as i could. i definitly had to tone down the timing a bit. i just get worried people will get bored. but im getting better i think. in the begining i was totaly thinking peolpe were going to hate it and that they would think it was boring..so i tushed the edits a bit...even more then they are now...anyway, its all working out. i'm glad you liked it!

[cinebuddy]

cinebuddy- once i have some time tonight i will tell youa bit about my workflow between premiere and AE.

Thanks Rich!

[RomanJaquez]

Rich...I loved it!
I couldn't wait to see more of this project from the last post. I kept coming to your site looking for updates... keep the pro' work; you and many others here in DVXUSER inspire me the keep learning more about this industry.

Something I noticed from the video! In the shots where the doctors are working with him, one of them has some “robotics arms: scanning” (I guess) that others don’t… is this a continuity problem? Anyways I love it… please tell us about your work process and preparation for this project…. I am new and craving to learn more.

[Rich Lee]

cinebuddy-hey man. so i have no idea how anyone else works as far as editing and what not. and i definitly dont think my was is the best...its actually kinda sloppy..but anywhoo...hope this helps a bit..let me know if there is anything more specific you want to know...

i edit everything in premiere pro. i try to get the edits as close as i can before i do too much vfx stuff. once i get it close. i usualy render out the shot as an uncompressed QT. bring that into a master AE project and do whatever comping i need. then i render it out again as an uncompressed QT. bring it into premiere and replace the old footage with it. once i get to the point where i want to render it all out, i bring the entire premiere project into my master AE file and do my color correction and then render. i precomp the edits so that its one layer. i do all my color corrects on adjustment layers that sit above the precomped edit. once i get a new version of the edit. i bring it into ae again. and just replace the old edit with the new..usualy some parts of the edit dont change, so alot of the adjustment layers stay the same.. and i just update or create new ones for the edit changes.

RomanJaquez-i was going to put more robots in those shots. but they started to get in the way of the doctors. so i decided not too. i dont think its that big of a deal though...maybe they just arent there the whole time....they come in when needed or whatever...i think its fine...thanks for checkin it out man! peace!

[Staino]

Was that Bruce Campbell?????!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Rich Lee]

glad someone finaly picked that up! jeez...


that guy gets mistaken for quentin tarantino sometimes too.

[Staino]

Looks as though, to be honest, Find an agent Rich!

[Rich Lee]

thanks man. we shall see what happens. some good stuff MIGHT be happening soon. i will keep you guys posted.

[Staino]

Seriously man, any dumb ass can take a DVX film something stupid and call it good. *Your stuff is pro, I have two full length features on script, Id hire you as the DP in a heartbeat.

[Staino]

I'm not soliciting you Dude, I live basically in Antartica.

[cinebuddy]

i edit everything in premiere pro. i try to get the edits as close as i can before i do too much vfx stuff. once i get it close. i usualy render out the shot as an uncompressed QT. bring that into a master AE project and do whatever comping i need. then i render it out again as an uncompressed QT. bring it into premiere and replace the old footage with it. once i get to the point where i want to render it all out, i bring the entire premiere project into my master AE file and do my color correction and then render. i precomp the edits so that its one layer. i do all my color corrects on adjustment layers that sit above the precomped edit. once i get a new version of the edit. i bring it into ae again. and just replace the old edit with the new..usualy some parts of the edit dont change, so alot of the adjustment layers stay the same.. and i just update or create new ones for the edit changes.


Gotcha, now I have only a couple of questions 1. How do you handling transitions created in Premiere, or are you doing them in ae? You also say you render out the shots. I assume it is your edit or cut from the premiere time line? I've been having issues jumping between programs as I think magic bullet for AE is vastly different from the editors version when it comes to results. And again I really appreciate you taking the time to speak to this as i'm sure a lot of people are trying to get a more efficient work flow between these two great apps.

[Rich Lee]

hey man, i didnt do any transition in that video. and i honestly havnt done that much of them anyway. the few that i have done have been in AE.

i will render out a single cut shot from premiere and bring that into AE for compositing and effects stuff...then i bring it BACK into premiere into the edit. but when i render out the WHOLE sequence, i do that from AE.

i dont use the magic bullet stuff in premiere...its just a personaly pref, but i just like doing all that in AE, once i get the edit done...usualy im messing with the image so much, that i need AE to do overlays and little blurs and what not.

peace out!

[cinebuddy]

Thank you brother! By the way that Sho-Nuff is killing me...I keep hearing the theme song from the movie...you got that glow...LEROY!

[ArkhamFilms]

Rich-

First time seeing this vid, not sure how I missed it. Truly outstanding. Great concept, locations, cinematography and FX, of course. You just raised the bar again.

2 questions for you: 1. How many days of shooting did it take? 2. How did you match up the shots to insert the clones without using any kind of motion control?

Thanks... and congratulations on a beautiful video.

-CJ
www.arkhamfilms.com

[Rich Lee]

CJ- hey man. we shot for 2 1/2 days.

the mulitple people thing was done mostly as lock offs. no camera movement. there was a "POV" like shot at the end that had some paning and tilting in it as the docs lookd into camera. i did that by shooting 3 angles. one angle looking right..and angle looking straigt on, and an angle looking left. i then stitched those together into one big 1280x480 comp that i could then precomp into a 720x480 frame so that i could animate it so that it looked like a pan and tilt.

there is one shot in there that is pushing in on the back of a head, as doctors look on. i did that using "human moco". i ran through the shot a few times with 2 actors in frame so that i could see how far the camera would move and how fast. i had someone timing us each time with a stop watch. we ended up with a 10 second shot. we then measured how far we traveled in that shot...which was like 10 feet or so. we put marks on the floor at 1 foot intervals. and we had a little marker on the dolly that would pass over the marks as we pushed in. once we were ready to get the shot i had a person caling out seconds, and the person pushing the dolly would hit the marks on the floor at every second. so, that how we got away with doing mulitpasses with no 100,000 moco rig. and it worked! a little bit of fudging in post to get it right...but its totaly fine. here is a little diagram..hope this all makes sense...

http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/humanmoco.jpg

here are some images of the different passes in that shot...

http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP1.jpg
http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP2.jpg
http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP3.jpg
http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP4.jpg
http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP5.jpg
http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP6.jpg
http://www.rich-lee.com/temp/MP7comped.jpg

[Rich Lee]

i didnt do a great job at documenting the shoot. i know a bunch of people had cameras there and were snaping shots..i will try to get ahold of some.

but here are a few that i have..nothing spectacular...a few of them show some of our lighting setups...

http://www.rich-lee.com/BF_stills/

[ArkhamFilms]

Rich-

Wow, ingenious use of "human mo-co", and stitching together shots for that pan. The effects, aside from before mentioned roto hiccups, are really seamless and make for a very compelling and well thought-out music video.
Whichever career (directing, DP, Editing & VFX) you choose, you're going to do extraordinarily well in all of them. *
Congratulations again.

PS) I have an animation technical question for you, so check your IM's soon.

Thanks.
-CJ
www.arkhamfilms.com

[monte]

cool

[Rich Lee]

cool thanks yo. the opening bit in the reception office is CG in case anyone was wondering. we couldnt get a place with a nice recpetion are to let us shoot there. so i just shot in a really crappy one and rotoed out the th bg and place d a cg one in..roto work still needs to be done on that bit...oy..im never going to finish this bastard.....

peace

[Young-H._Lee]

That motion control technique was a great low-budget way to film something this advanced! Rich you are quite a problem solver, do you have a background in like...math or something? ;D

[Rich Lee]

That motion control technique was a great low-budget way to film something this advanced! Rich you are quite a problem solver, do you have a background in like...math or something? ;D


hahaha...no way man! i think i just hardly passed math class in highschool. i was behind too...like i was taking math classes with kids 2 years younger...math was so boring...i hated it...although i was bored out of my mind with most of school except for art classes...come to think of it...i skipped most of my math classes to go to art classes and hang out. my art teacher was rad!

i do enjoy solving problems though...

[robeditor2003]

Rich

Rob here from Glendale.... I have 2 Questions:

Hey the place you shot the video do they rent this place out to anyone? And if so who can I call

2nd. What kind of lens is on the camera?

[robeditor2003]

rich,

Forgot what kind of tripod is that? Looking to get one

Rob

[Rich Lee]

hey rob. yeah, they rent to anyone. heres the place..

http://www.postmortemstudiorental.com/
you can tell them i sent you, maybe that will help you out...i dunnoo..they are a bit strange over there..

the lens is the .7 century. its badass...i love it. almost never comes off.

the big tripod im not sure about....i rent it from wooden nickel lighting in north hollywood. you can call them to ask...

http://www.woodennickellighting.com/

[robeditor2003]

Rich,

Man you may already talked about this but what was your setting did you shot in F6 or F5 default? was the master Ped at -3 or -5

rob

And Thanks for the info

[ArchCarrier]

Rich,

it's getting dull, but I'm also very impressed (and inspired) by your video!

Can you talk a little more about your preparation for the film? Did you draw storyboards? How detailed was your shotlist? I'm about to start pre-production on my first short, and it'd be nice to hear how much planning went into a film like yours.

[readw]

Hi this is one great video. I enjoyed every second of it. And then watched it again after reading every page.

I noticed a couple of continuity issues in the opening scene at the reception desk.

- The secretary is missing from one shot
- The height of the secretary seems to be out from shot to shot

Great video.

Warren

[Rich Lee]

ArchCarrier- i preped alot. i first wrote an outline of the whole video. i then broke the song into parts and put story/imagry to each part. i say i boarded like 50% of the video, and had a shot list for like 90%...there were certain shots i knew i absolutly wanted from the getgo. the rest i vibed while being there. being prepared is really important for me. I drew floor plans of all the sets and made little diagrams showing where actors were and where cameras would be placed. there was no standing around going whats next...or thinking about how to do a certain thing...it just all fell into place because alot of the work was done ahead of time. i was telling people what the next few setups were so they could prep it. also, being able to show the crew and cast what were are doing, and why and all that was really cool. it gave everyone confidence.
i broke the song into parts and i made little quicktimes for each bit of the song for play back, with little bleeps for markers that i could match to in the edit. i think i had to prep this one more because i knew there owuld be so many little vfx shots. we also bought alot of little props and made costumes. all of the big set pieces belonged to the place we were renting. we would get a set ready, and i would place the cool set pieces wherever, and we would tweak the location of them for certain shots, just to make it look a little better. seriously, that set place was kinda wack. nothing was very clean or in a straight line, alot of te walls were bunk, so we had to cover as much as we could. but it all worked out.

readw-the shot with the missing secretay just needs to have her rotoed back in, that whole set was fake so i have been rotoing peeps out of the ugly set and into the cg one...she is just MIA for the moment...what parts do you mean the height changes? not sure how that could happen because she is the same girl...we never put her on apple boxes or anything...i will look to see what you are speaking of...

rob- f5 default i believe.

im doing 2 big jobs at the same tie right now so i havnt had time to mess with the video much. luckly the band is cool with me takin my time. damned DAY/NIGHT jobs!!!

[watson]

are your others jobs film related? just wondering. by the way i myself was wondering how you did the motion controled shots. thats pretty nuts how you got it done, it looks great.

[Rich Lee]

are your others jobs film related?


yeah, working on pirates of the caribbean 2/3 during the day, and a movie called constantine at night/weekends.

[insanityfw]

Hey anybody else having problems with the video link? I've tried to reach it for three days and it keep freezing up on me at the same spot in the beginning.

I'm dying to see it since everybody's gaga over it....help me ;D

[readw]

Hi Rich,

Maybe its just me. The first shot of the secretary, her shoulders are about the width of the sign frame. In the second shot she is about 2/3 the size. To me it the second shot of the secretary looks too small.


Warren

[illLOGIC]

Great job. I especially enjoyed all the fancy cg. Having a great song helps too. Very impressed.

[ArchCarrier]

Rich,

thanks for your detailed answer! I do have a couple more questions (let me know if it gets annoying):


i was telling people what the next few setups were so they could prep it.
How many crew members did you have for this? And with 'prepping' you mean setting up dolly tracks, lights and so on? Did you set up your shooting schedule with those factors in mind?


i broke the song into parts and i made little quicktimes for each bit of the song for play back, with little bleeps for markers that i could match to in the edit.
I don't quite understand this. You mean bleeps to match beats in the song with certain marks in the shots?

Did you rehearse with your actors, in advance or right before the shoot?
Did you constantly play the song while you were shooting? Did you play other music to keep the right mood?
<offtopic>I thought Constantine had been shot already. Are they still previzzing?</offtopic>

Thanks!
Melson

[Rich Lee]

readw- i see now, yeah, shes too little...thanks man! thats an easy fix...

ArchCarrier- i had maybe 8 people helping. and yes, they were seting up track,dollies,tripods,set pieces,clearing shite out of places we were just in, all that good stuff. most of the crew had never done tihs before, but they did an excellent job, even the singer when he wasnt performing was helping out. it was cool.

i didnt do any rehearsal with the actors, they just came in and i told them what to do. i had some boards so that helped them too. i had a very clear idea...so it was kinda easy. the hard shite was getting the damned jib/dolly to do what i wanted...kinda annoyed with that setup.

what i ment by cut the song up and put bleebs was this.
i broke the song up into little pieces...so that we could just play small bits of it at a time. so i made little wav files, with 2 beeps in the begining and end. and my master file had all the little beeps that the smaller ones had, so that when i bring dv footage that we shot into premiere, i could line the beeps up with the master file, so that i dont have to line the video with the song up by eye. maybe someone has a better solution, but it seemed like the most simple way for me to line the video we shot with the actual song...does that make sense? let me know if it doesnt and i can send you a pm.

yeah, constantine went through a round of reshoots last month, so i was previzing that. but im also designing the title sequence for the movie now in my spare time. its pretty cool, buts its rough doing 2 full time gigs at once. but it will pay off, im pretty sure i will even get a title designer credit, as well as previz supervisor cred...we shall see...

[Unix]

Rich u talked before about u doing the light set-up yourself
1 *can you tell me what brand/model # lights did u use?
I saw the bf_stills, is that a regular neon lamp taped to a steadytracker,glidecam whatever

2 those pics of the DVX are just I don't know ...beautiful comes to my mind, it looks tight

3 how is it that u created the docs and nurses again?

4 is that a real MRI machine or is it CG

5 how much did the actors charged

<off topic> any camera settings for that amusement park footage?

who's your host and how much bandwidth do u get .



thanx

[Rich Lee]

unix-
1.i rented an arri 1k light, and 4, 4 bank kino flos.
3.i shot mulitple passes of each person, in the same shot, each person stands in a different place then i roto them together in after effects
4. cg MRI machine
5.the actors were free. hundreds in not thousands of people move to los angeles every year to be actors. and many will do stuff for free just to get stuff on a reel. the guy in the video was a friend of a friend though, who has no ambition to be an actor. the girl was a friend of a friend as well, she is a model, but just got to LA so she needs stuff to show around.
6. the amusement part was default f5. with the lens wide open.
7.my web host is CWIhosting.com and i have like 90gigs of bandwidth or something, not 100% sure...so give or take 10-20gigs. i do alot of file transfers to my ftp site so i need it.

peace

[ChuckS]

Hi Rich,

After nine pages (and still going) of people telling you how great this is I’m sure you realize that you’ve hit it out of the park. I have not read all of the posts so I apologize if someone has already brought this to you attention.

Just a couple of comments that might help – Because of the lower resolution on the download it is hard to tell how good some of the comps are. In the scene where the three doctors are rolling him down the hall on the gurney, there is a lot of movement around the edges of his head and along his arms on either side. I’m guessing that the center one is real and the outside ones comped. Did you blue screen this or rotoscope it?

It also appears that you digitally created the bandages on his head as he’s laying on the table and you’re pulling back, the track doesn’t quite work and the lighting is different so it doesn’t seem to fit in the scene.

When you cut to the scene where the women is unwrapping the bandages there seems to be a bad edit there, maybe a left over frame from a previous edit.

You go to the effects shot of him singing as part of a graphic “if you don’t know,” or something like that quickly a couple of times. It works really well – have you considered replacing the shot of revealing the lips with that type of graphic effect. I don’t care how well you color correct them, that women has about the finest lips I’ve ever scene and you just can’t hide it. I guess you could use some digital botox (morph) them a little so they aren’t so recognizable.

Great lighting, good job.

[Rich Lee]

ChuckS- thanks man! yeah, all the issues you bring up are being delt with.

i know, those lips are somthing else eh? thats why i had such a hard time letting them go cause they look so good in the video, but they do in fact take away from the story. anyway, i have a new edit of the end bits, i will try to get it finished soon, but have very little free time lalty...

thanks man.

[BLUESPIDER]

Rich Lee,

I just notice your bruce leeroy character icon i think. Whats that dudes name? Showna, Anyway, dude the video or should I say film looks really good. I'm jelous, I shoot 16mm and your stuff looks close and somtimes better than 16 projects, maybe cause I can't light. :)

Represent Da DVX dawg. Any relation to Bruce Lee?

Blue Spider

[Hyperbolic]

<obligatory-but-true>F***ing outstanding, man! *I watch this once a day for inspiration, at least.</obligatory-but-true>

I've got a question, for which I apologize if I missed in some earlier post (read 'em all, but it's been over several days, eh?): *Most of the shots fade out a little in the corners -- this is "vignetting," right? *If so, I like the look, but don't a lot of DV filmmakers hate it when a wide lens does this? *Was this intentional on your part? *I assume it was, since you obviously know how to capture exactly what you envision with the camera, but I just wanted to check.

Did I say "a" question? *I suppose that's more like a topic area, anyway... *Thanks!

EDIT: I forgot to talk about the lips!

Maybe I'm the only sucker who feels this way, but for me, the lip reveal is the best part of the ending. Because they are her most distinctive feature, revealing them in a close-up felt like the *best* way to surprise us with the ending. Simply spinning her in the chair will work fine, but it isn't as intimate or powerful, IMHO. As it stands, sure, we know by the time you spin her around that he's now "the she," but it's still plenty satisfying to see the full face anyway. The lips are the whole thing, if you ask me (which, of course, nobody did)...

[bodaphoto]

Rich that is awsome. *When is your book and DVD coming out?

Keep the Lips in at the end. That's my vote.

[jasonk]

dewd. sugarcult have a new video on the iTunes store. I was wondering if it was shot in the same hospital set that you mentioned. Check it out if you haven't seen it already.

Anyway, by the looks of things your video will blow doors on theirs. The only things I like about theirs are the song itself & the performance shots cut in there. There's some nice cinematography, but I don't know if messing it up so much really enhances the video. Oh, and then they have a hottie in her underwear. That's always good.

[Rich Lee]

BLUESPIDER- thats SHO-NUFF! no relation to bruce lee by the way. everyone thinks im asian cause of my last name, but in fact, im just a white man...wudrugonnado? ::)

Hyperbolic- the vignetting was done in post. the latest edit has lips, but from a different angle...so its a little harder to tell..anyway, i think the new edit is better.

bodaphoto- thanks man. the laser disc will be out mid july 2009

jasonk- i just saw the sugarcult video in itunes...when i first saw it i was like DOH! i should upload some of my origninal storyboards, the angles they shot inthe hallway are exactly what i had planned. but didnt go through with it cause i wasnt necesesary. funny to see that video though. have you seen team america? the scene when gary gets the surgery? so funny, its them crackin fun at this type of stuff. i wonder what the budget was on that sugarcult vid? an no, that definitly wasnt the same joint i shot at. i think they shot that in london maybe...

thanks for pointing m to that video man! peace!

[Hyperbolic]

Hey (again), Rich--

You mentioned that you love the Century .7 lens and used it here. I assume, then, that you couldn't also go with the anamorphic lens -- is that the case? If so, what made you decide against going anamorphic? Did you simply "squeeze" it instead?

Thanks!

[Rich Lee]

i used the anamorphic lens for the opening shot and the doctors office. i do really like the results from the ana. but i just didnt have the time to fuss with it for the rest of the shoot. i needed to get shots fast, and to be fussin around with settings and light to get the ana to work just didnt seem like the right thing to do for this one.

i did not use squeeze mode either. i like having the freedom of recomposing the shot later. so having the extra meat on the top and bottom was nice. especialy for vfx shots where i need to make fake pans and add cg stuff. also, it let me shoot a little faster because i knew i could just recompose some things later...so i didnt have to worry about headroom so much...i mean, i did, but i wasnt freaking about it.

hope that helps...peace

[brassco]

Hi Rich,
I'm in West Palm Beach Florida but if you are interested in being my DP it would be a real start. The Film it's a romantic comedy though is ment to look pretty and colorful I hope thats not boring to you! I want a beautiful look like that movie Amelie and I think you can do it. I can't pay much my budget is only 50K for the hole thing and 50K for the transfer and some prints but I will be going straight to theatres I'm not going for the film fest crap! they just want to take advantage of the new comers I swear it's like a black hole full of sharks! I'm doing self distribution and already have some theatres that will wacth the film and if they like it is a go. But first I have to make the film only there aren't many people who really know how to use the DVX well. Please think about it I would fly you here, feed you, and give you a place to stay for the entire production plus some money. you can contact me at brasscopage@hotmail.com

[speedbump]

Rich-

I just want you to know that I've snagged a copy of your rough draft. I trot it out, along with Matt McDermitt's work, and Disjecta's, for inspiration. When I'm sobbing into my beer at the end of a long day doing a video, and it isn't meeting my expectations, I watch your video, as well as the works of these other DVXUSER titans, and suddenly the World is new again.

:D

[LloydC]

really enjoyed it. Awesome work!

[Rich Lee]

Hyperbolic/speedbump- glad you guys like it so much. i must say, everytime i hear that someone finds my work inspirational i get a big smile! its just great to hear that people are getting more then just eye candy out of it, that it might even motivate and push people to do other things. know what i mean? its an unexpected byproduct i guess...thanks guys, glad i could help out! ;D

and sorry for your drinking problem speedbump...just stay away from the bumwines....

http://www.bumwine.com/

[Unix]

thanx

Viva rich!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

I just saved it to my videos

[insanityfw]

WOW! That's all I can say...oh, and thank you Rich!!!!

[Kirk Gillock]

AGHHHHHHH!!!! Wish I could see this AMAZING video Rich created, but I live in the middle of nowhere with a crappy dial-up connection. Could somebody please say, "The video is crap and not worth the download." so I don't feel left out???

Thanks in advance :-)

Isara
Nong Khai, Thailand

[J.R. Hudson]

This video is crap and not worth the download.

Feel better? :-/

[Rich Lee]

:'(


cant you just let the dload go over night?

[J.R. Hudson]

:D *I was just trying to ease his pain. *Actually, Rich Lee is a kick ass motherfucking talent. *It's a shame those with dial-up can't check it out. *Rich, can you post a couple grabs for the poor bastards?

[Rich Lee]

ah, yeah, i havnt posted and stills of it...will do johnny boy.

[J.R. Hudson]

Skills. :)

[Rich Lee]

i could try to post some skills too...

[Kirk Gillock]

Thanks guys! I never thought the "pitty card" would work. Hmmmmmmmm Because of the DVX100 I bought, I'm stuck with a huge creditcard debt, could somebody please post some money to my PayPal account? Thanks in advance!

Rich: I'm at an Interent Cafe so I can't let it run overnight :-( I did however see some of your work when I visited the states last month. Some beautiful stuff. I shot some video of a Festival here in Thailand last week (posted here) and thought about your festival footage while shooting it. You had some great night shots. What settings do you use for night-time shots?

Can't wait to see some stills (and skills) or maybe a low-res version (sorry, is that a bad word here?).

Kirk

[Rich Lee]

aight heres some stills...a bunch of random before and after color correct stuff...

http://www.rich-lee.com/BF_stills/Grabs/

peace!

[BLUESPIDER]

Leeroy,
I was watching it agian eating my glaze dounut and I notice the 2nd girl to the left had an attitude.
Have to admit you have skills, but I'm still the masta!

[drummerboy678]

Geez man, I loved the video, but these stills made me appreciate it even more. The one where the guy is walking in, back to the camera, I was amazed at the amount of changes you made. The cables on the ground, the lighting, the coloring. Insane man!

I guess I'm completely new to the world of "post production", b/c I had no idea you could do all that.

Awesome job.

[jigmic]

You kick ass again Rich ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[J.R. Hudson]

No doubt. I just looked at the stills and then watched the Vid againand am like "I am not worthy..." Awesome.

[theos]

Hey rich! Where was I through this hype . . . well what a deserved hype over a great video! The limit. My highest complements can only be summed up into one fitting phrase 'you have a production mind nad the talent to get what you see on screen'. Fantastic to have you in the dvx family big bro! ;D

[Guest]

I am myself a filmaker (mostly music video and commercials) and I also work with 3d software like 3ds Max and Maya in attempt to enrich and complete the set or even create 3d characters and special effects. You can see that on my website www.moviefactory.ro .
And I used to shot with all sort of cameras (Sony DSP 250; DSP 150 P and others including some models of Sony Betacam and Betacam SP) . But now I'm tired of all that fields trouble and I decided to buy the only affordable progressive camera, the DVX100A ( well...DVX100E because I'm in Europe). But I have some doubts, because the low price. And even so the camera is highly acclaimed in some circles, almost all screengrabs I saw on the net seems unsuitable for a music videos (and worse then a normally Sony minidv in a 5000 $ price tag). Maybe the screengrabs were worse because were shot inappropriate or maybe because there where NTSC and I'm used with PAL wich have a higher resolution. I don't know. But the music video you made seem to be very good and with a good quality. But because the file was resized for internet purposes, I can't be sure of the quality of the picture. I know you are probably very busy but can you post ( or email to DELETED AT POSTER's REQUEST BY MOD) some uncompressed full size frames ? Maybe with and without color postprocess. You can make the screens png. Because PNG is compressed lossless.
And question number two : Let's say you shot a subject. You probably know that effect or technique when the subject is clear but 10 inch in front of him, everything is in blur.. and the same.. 10 inch in his back everything is in blur (I mean very much blur). You usually make that sort of shoting with the zoom set to maximum and with manual focus. I saw the
"Century Optics 1.6x Tele-converter for the Panasonic AG-DVX100". Can you make that kind of shooting with that lens ? And if I buy that lens, I have to buy something else (some accesories for mounting the lens) ? Or in the package is everything I need for mounting the lens... Thanks.

[Guest]

Ups..I guess I didn't read very carefully the post. I found the screen grabs. But still... they were jpg's. Can you post at least 1 or 2 png's ? ( or other uncompressed formats). Thanks.

[BLUESPIDER]

Leeroy,
why don't u also make a divix version for me because thats what the cool people use. why? because I'm a beeatch..

[J.R. Hudson]

Can I get some images in the 'watercolor' format? They would like nice on my wall. No wait. Make that Egg Tempera for I am a biatch as well.

[darkavenger]

Cool! And by cool, I mean totally sweet!

[Arcburn]

What in tarnation is going on?

[Contact_Therapy]

hey, where can I buy those " I wanna be Rich!" or "I just got my ass handed to me by Mr. Lee" t-shirts? :P

[Rich Lee]

yo thanks again beeatches!

drummerboy678-the only reason i did so much to the images of the guy in the reception area...was because there was no way i could get a place that had a cool lobby to let us shoot there...so push came to shove and i had to do something, so i just shot in a crappy place then rotoed it all out and replaced it with better looking stuff. i dont recommend doing that...if you can get the place, get the place...i would much rather have just shot in a real location. would have saved me much time.

when i get a moment i will do a proper little page for the video on my site, with some higher rez still and maybe a few different formats of the video. i think the abnd is going to be puttig up on their site as well in a few different formats.

anyway, im about to deliver the final to the band. hoping it will get on tv and whatnot, we will see...

thanks for the support guys...peace!

[monte]

Richie, why didn't you just build a green/blue screen and shoot infront of that rather than rotoscoping everything frame by frame?

Time constraints?

[BLUESPIDER]

yeah rich, why do things the hard way. Rotoscoping is so 80's!

;D

[Rich Lee]

chroma key is dead....automated roto is the future....

http://www.2d3.com/jsp/products/product-overview.jsp?product=12


anyway, yeah, we just had NO time at all to set up a green screen in the amount of time we had that set for. i was also a little nervous about spill and whatnot from the screen. as well as how crappy a poorly light green screen might be to key on dv...just all those elements made my shy away from it for that video. next time i will try to experiement with it and see if i can get good results.

[sojrn]

Hey Rich Lee,

Top-notch work on your video, dare I say VIDEO? *Thank you for truly pushing the envelope with the DVX.
Oh yeah, your song shreds as well.

[shAi]

yo! have seen it only now -- mighty good work!!!

[theos]

BTW the band is awsome . . . I know this was already said but me & some friends have tripped over their song ;D

[stan_the_man]

This video rocks......I'm a musician / producer who just got my DVX100a a week ago and still haven't had time to party with it. I aspire to make vidios like this.....keep it up and keep us posted with your other work.
Stan the Man summitstudios.info :)

[stan_the_man]

And the music! Love that tune, great singer, great track,,,really sticks in your head......!!!!!!

[Shadow]

Wow!! I just finished to look at it for the first time, really excellent work. Bravo!!!

[Policar]

I thought I couldn't be any more impressed when I saw the rough video. Then I saw the final.

The lack of shake is really great, and it makes it easier to appreciate the awesome visuals. It took off a little bit of the edginess, but it was totally worth it for what was gained without it. The CGI bandages look very convincing, and the way you combined 3d elements with video was fantastic. The lighting matches very closely and I didn't see any rough rotoscoped edges or anything. The concept is good, too, as is the cinematography. Even with the jump cuts, everything is very clear and the camera movements are excellent. The wide angle lens looks nice as well, and whatever method you softened the highlights with did a great job of getting rid of the harsh video look.

Automated rotoscoping sounds pretty sweet, but for me the greenscreen will never die. It looks expensive, too, unfortunately.

You've probabably already gone over all this, but that was done with After Effects and Maya, right? I've used both quite a bit (much more AE than Maya, though) and I have no idea how you pulled some of those shots off. Very nice.

[Thistlebop]

Poor Rich ;D

I have to say that Video kicks major ass. Everyone says it rocks, because for once, everyone is right.
Lucky bastard. Getting to do this sweet music project and the band kicks ass at the same time. ;D

It's an awesome video and should open plenty of doors for you.
The only downside is that you're gonna be forced to listen to everyone who ever see's it, telling you the same thing over and over and over and over.

"It Rocks" :o

--Bop

[Thistlebop]

:D I was just trying to ease his pain. Actually, Rich Lee is a kick ass motherfucking talent. It's a shame those with dial-up can't check it out. Rich, can you post a couple grabs for the poor bastards?


Unfortunately a still shot from the video can't begin to do it justice, because its the mix of image and song that makes it so kick-ass.


--Bop

[J.R. Hudson]

Here's an interesting little bit of trivia about this videos production in case you didnt know:

John Hudson had absolutley nothing to do with this project.

[Rich Lee]

yo thanks guys...

stan_the_man-good luck with the dvx man, you will hve fun with it!

Policar-yeah, i had the shake just because i was afraid that people might get too board of the images...but im a freak like that, so i took it away, im much happier with it now. The post was done in after effects and XSI. im only now starting to get into working with maya. but only cause work requires it, for all my own shite i will always use xsi, its tools/integration with mental ray/speed are way better then anything right now. thanks for the compliments man.

Thistlebop- thanks man.

John Hudson- thats not true and you know it! John "fluffer" Hudson. :D

[J.R. Hudson]

:D

[Rich Lee]

:D

[BLUESPIDER]

;D

[Rich Lee]

;D

[BLUESPIDER]

:P

[J.R. Hudson]

:P

[Kirk Gillock]

I'll see your :P and raise you 1 ::)

[J.R. Hudson]

Oh yeah? ::)

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[Rich Lee]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! SMILY FACES EVERYWHERE!!

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[Arcburn]

jeez someone has a lot of time on their hands

[J.R. Hudson]

Of course blowing this up might help ::)

http://www.zoomforce.com/dvxuser/photos/images/321213033.jpg

[BLUESPIDER]

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/9260/14649.jpg

[J.R. Hudson]

OMG Dude!

That is sooooooooooooooooo wrong! I sooo freaked out. :o

[Ihop]

lol

[Thistlebop]

Omg!

Another hijacked thread :o

Damn Smileys

--Bop

[strancali]

Rich, I just watched your "just like you" video and man do you rock! I hope i can be half as good as you someday. Keep it coming please.

Sid

[loyd_christmas]

great work!!! reminds me of a chris cunningham video. thats one of the better videos i have seen ,not just on this site but anywhere. was wondering if you could tell me how you did the film speeding up and coming off the reel effect at the end ?

[enterdcable]

That picture was so scary, my pecker got freaked out and ran away.

[Policar]

Hate to say it but the song really reminds me of "Just" by Radiohead (from the album The Bends). Not a bad thing, but they are awfully similar.

[Justin]

Besides gaveling at your feet which is my natural reaction,
I would very much like to know what you used to make that film strip look at the end of the video.

Meca Thanks,
Justin

[uhrgl]

^^^^
I read this whole thread today and that answer is back in there somewhere (EDIT: page 6) -- short answer is he did it manually in AE.

Rich, if I knew anything about vfx, I might have a technical question for you, but since I don't, I was just wondering how you met the band and got to make the video? *Did you start seeing the video in your head shortly after you heard the song?

[IncMedia]

I can't rave enough about this video.

[Rich Lee]

Here you go Justin...


thanks watson. i hand animated the projector look in after effects. im sure there are filters that do it though. all i did was bring that shot into a comp with the audio, and animated it going up and down to the music. then added motion blur...then i duplicated that piece 4 times without the animation and placed them one above the other and parented them to the original. this way they moved with the original one i animated and whenever the original went out of frame there was another one there to take its place...i then overlayed some text and fringe on the boarders.


Gabe - the guy who ran sales for the company i used to work for was room mates with one of the band members. he knew i was anxious to do a video so he told them about me. they gave me a cd of their tracks and i picked one out that i liked. and just kept listening over and over. it didnt take long to get the concept...maybe half a day or so. almost right away i started seeing shots. it took forever to the damn video started though, the guys were in san fran, and our limited cash didnt make for many options as far as getting locations. anyway it turned out alright...still not totaly like i wanted...but its close...fun stuff...

IncMedia - thanks!

[Justin]

Thanks Rich, and from this day forth, I promise to read the entire thread before posting a question!

[Rich Lee]

Thanks Rich, and from this day forth, I promise to read the entire thread before posting a question!


:D no worries man!

[milverdu]

I just watched for the hundredth time. this video ROCKS!!!!

[Isaac_Brody]

Hadn't watched this in awhile. Awesome work.

[MANSTER]

I THINK THE SONG SAY IT ALL :D :D :D

EVERYBODY WANTS SHOOT AND LIGHT AND EDIT.
("JUST LIKE YOU")

ALL THE WAY COOOOOLMAAN. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

The Manster !!!!

[Lens]

hey, guys, I'd like to watch it as well but it seems the link doesn't work anymore...?

[dakotapod]

You can watch it (along with many other sweet gems) On his web site

http://www.rich-lee.com/shortfilms.htm

Enjoy! *8)

Added note: I just watched the finished video on your site Rich. Last time I watched it was unfinished work in progress...

I could not possibly dig it more. Excellent work!!

[hp]

Outsatnding production values, excellent editing! Thanks for posting this.

[Voytek_Stitko]

great job

what is 0.6?

[BrandonC]

Incredible video.
Those before and after shots are a testament to the work you put into your projects.

Unbelievable.

[Rich Lee]

thanks again guys!

Voytek_Stitko- .6 is a wide angle adaptor made by century optics.

[strancali]

so any new projects coming up Rich? I want to see you use an xl2. I'm waiting for McDermitt to finish his video with the xl2. I know it'll be great. Man, i just love this video!

[BrandonC]

McDermitt is going to be awhile...

[kyledroid]

what did you shoot the drugs short on? Did you use color correction? BTW, LOve the vid!

[slinks]

To get the mulitple thing i shot the same actors in passes and am doing roto in after effects to layer them in the same comp.


1st of all, great work!
I was wondering how you did the multi as well. I was hoping there was an easier way to have it so nice besides greenscreen. ROTO... eeep! fun times haha. I did a couple of roto tests before, with very little sleep of course.

[slinks]

i also just realized how old this thread is...lol hey im somewhat new to this forum :P

[lpcvideo1]

Hey, Slinks, thanks for making this thread pop up on the new posts. Never would have seen it otherwise.

And, . . . WOW. Rich, I want to be just like you. :grin:

I am overwhelmed. Can't decide whether to toss my current project, or go for an Oscar. Thanks!

[slinks]

Oh Rich, one question. At 00:00:52 there is a shot where the 2 girls(multi) are both touching the singer and in the same time you are dolly'n in. How did you pull off such a hard task? I mean the singer wasn't exactly staying in one place. great job.

EDIT: actually i watched that lil segment about a few more times. And I actually realized only the woman on the left is the only 1 roto'd in I can see a little inperfections in it. I guess you just tried to do the dollies at the exact same speed. That is really hard to pull off. No one would notice that lil thing cept maybe nerds like me or maybe if it was projected. anyhow I still love it and it definately inspires a lot of us. :thumbsup: :thumbup: :beer:

lpcvideo1: haha your welcome :cheesy:

[Smithhouse]

Great work, Rich... I want to be just like you.

[SilverWolf]

I just watched this video myself and I love the color.

[TizzyEntertainment]

I hate to sound like a broken record that just seems to chime in on the "back patting parade" but man that was good! I have had the great fortune of being a part of some truly amazing DVX stuff and this is just breathtaking. Great pacing, Great color work (I find it hard to believe you used magic bullet for that, what did you use? Final Touch?) great CG work, set design, costmues, the works. A truly first rate vid. What was the budget on that?

Anyway keep it up, fantastic stuff.

Ahh the ever pressing "performance" aspect of the video. There is deff. room to sneak it in, though hardly more then 25%. and ofcourse some wonderful shots will be lost. I see the band in one location, lots of tilts and pans onto them. few second punch ins here and there would have it. I would still finish this vid and let whomever they go with see it though, it is strong on its own. Great work!
-Tizzy

[seejay1031]

Ahh the ever pressing "performance" aspect of the video. There is deff. room to sneak it in, though hardly more then 25%. and ofcourse some wonderful shots will be lost. I see the band in one location, lots of tilts and pans onto them. few second punch ins here and there would have it. I would still finish this vid and let whomever they go with see it though, it is strong on its own. Great work!
-Tizzy

Screw the performance aspect. I wouldn't change a thing. Seriously Tizzy, how would a performance section improve this video? I think far to many videos throw in the performance part, just because they think its obligitory, or because the band needs the ego stroked. My music video philosophy is to never include performance unless it provides a narrative or asthetic angle. I.E. The performance is part of the concept. (Red Hot Chile Peppers - Otherside, Offspring - Get a Job, White Stripes - Hardest Button to Button) Any video that cuts between A roll (performance) and B roll (story) without a certain cohesivness between the two is mearly an exercise in mediocre, typical MTV video. A video on the level of this one (Just Like You), should never be brought down to common denometer.

[arielman]

Not a big fan of music videos but this one I really enjoyed and the music as well .very nice.
Not sure if i missed it or not ...do they have a CD out ?...Ian

[Chris Messineo]

I saw this video when Rich first posted it here but I just realized I never told him how much I loved it. I have it saved to my hard drive and I always use it to show people the potential of the DVX. Simply amazing stuff!

Chris

[action junkie]

Holy cow. That looked amazing. AMAZING. Did I say it looked amazing? Makes me want to go out and improve my game by 1000%. Wow. Just wow.

[Rich Lee]

whoa, blast from the past...

cool that some new peeps get to see it. thanks for checkin it out, glad you dig it.

you can check out the bands website/myspace for new tracks...
http://www.buckfastmusic.com/
http://www.myspace.com/buckfast

im talking to the guys about doing some cool images for their new album, as well as another vid.

someday i will make another video...this video helped me out alot in hooking up with a production company called DNA www.dnala.com (http://www.dnala.com). been trying to get some vids going with them...ive written a bunch of treatments and have come close to getting vids, but its hard only having one video to my name, especialy when im competing against guys with 10 or 20 high end videos. the production company is very supportive, the guys there are awesome and tell me to hang in there...we shall see...

EDIT: whats up with only 981 views? this thread used to have tons more! something happen when the server changed? sheeeeett!!!! :evil::cheesy:

[Sirius_Doggy]

Rich baby... Just show em your R&D video and you should be in like Flint.

[Pen Cap Chew]

You've been praised a million times but I've got to give you my WOW! That's as professional as it gets, and on a DVX, nothing's impossible now. You've given me a big kick in the ass, thanks Rich. I can dream bigger now as I see what can be done with it. You da man. The only thing I would not have done in the video is put any makeup on her/him (where the bandages come off). Kind of funny he gets the bandages removed and he's already wearing makeup. What kind of surgeons do we have here, they reconfigure his face, apply tons of makeup and then put on the bandages. LOL. She's so hot she wouldn't need makeup anyway. It would be more realistic without makeup but I guess I'm being too realistic as it is a rock video afterall. Babe's gotta be as hot as possible, I know.

[yasodic]

RnD video=greatest video ever. thats some funny crap right there.

yaso

[Adam Crabbe]

Okay, Dude! I got to know, what was your budget for this?
Wow!!!
Great production and a surprising end!

[slinks]

I believe Rich states his budget was around 5k? i may be wrong but its somewhere on this thread.

[jeff jassky]

I don't know if anyone has said this, but the whole feeling behind the video reminds be slightly of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Absolutely amazing video. I didn't notice anyone asking about the lighting. What types of lights did you use for this project? Did you do all of the lighting? If so - you're freakin awesome. The whole thing is great!

I'm just getting started with video. I just bought my first DVX. I haven't had any chance to use it yet unfortunately. No one around me is interested in this stuff. Oh well.

Great stuff. So how 'bout them lights? Thanks for the great video!

-Jeff

[PaPa]

totally blew my mind.

[Slimothy]

This is a very old thread, but I'd like to say. This is the video that sold me on getting a dvx. I was an occasional surfer last year, and after I saw this I was like. Holy shit. Just so you know. :)

[FourStarCinema]

I cannot even believe this was shot on a DVX. Awesome video Rich!!

[Daniel Skubal]

Incredible man! That was seriously incredible!

[tktk]

Rich- Just wanted to say thanks for taking your time to post here. It's been very informational and helpful. Appreciate you being so forward and sincere with your posts. There are a lot of people wanting to learn and you are helping us.

[Rich Lee]

cool, thanks again guys...glad some of you have been inspired to do better things because of it. :thumbsup:

Pen Cap Chew - we fully intended to have make up done with scars and stitches...but we were running out of time and the makeup person was slow, and it just wasnt looking that good anyway...so i opted to go for beauty makeup instead...just one of those things that you have to compromise with on the day...im happy with how it turned out though.

Adam Crabbe - budget was 7k.

[Unsomnambulist]

Very cool video. Very impressed and inspired it came from a DVX.

Always interested in hearing the budget - but more importantly, what did you have to spend the money on? Location? Crew? Lighting/Grip rentals?

Still, looks like a million dollar video.

[harlan]

Jeez Rich

That is honestly as professional as anything I have ever seen.


So is his avatar!!! :)

[Zac Henke]

Wow... just....

wow.