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firehawk
12-04-2011, 08:09 PM
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if these two cameras would match closely enough to be used together. I have read where some people say no, and some say it's likely clients would be hard pressed to tell without pixel popping. Now that they have been out a few weeks, what do you guys think?
I realize the HPX has strengths in highlight handling and such, but without coaxing those abilities, are they close enough that simple color matching in post would work well enough or is there going to be a noticeable difference where people can tell "hey, it's a different camera" ? Or can they be made to match with significant post work, or in worst case, not at all...?


1080 and 720, Intra100 and AVCHD.
And since Intra 50 is a different pixel size 1440 vs 1920 I guess it's not an option at all.

Scenario 1. interview, dance, wedding. No grading. Just match up the settings, WB, etc.. and shoot.
One camera tight. One wide.

Scenario 2. interview, dance, wedding. No grading. Just match up the settings, WB, etc.. and shoot.
Both cameras shooting similar angles and distances.

And wait! There's more :)
Providing they can be used together, can the NLE edit footage from both on the same timeline?
Would you open a project for AVC Intra 100 and import all footage into that or open a project for AVCHD and edit with that?
Or would you have to transode one into the other (likely into Intra) so they are the same, and then edit from there?

Im using CS5 Windows - and - CS4, FCS3 Mac dual booting on a MacPro.

Barry_Green
12-04-2011, 08:13 PM
With a very little bit of effort matching up colors, yes you could certainly use them together.

Yak
12-05-2011, 07:32 AM
Barry any thoughts on how a HPX 250 would cut with a HVX 200?

Barry_Green
12-05-2011, 07:40 AM
With the original HVX200? I think it'll be a quite noticeable transition between the two. The HPX250 is a lot lot lot cleaner, and way sharper. Color-wise you could paint them but it'd take some effort. It would be easier to match it to an HVX200A.

I'm sure you could get it there, especially with a little work in post, but the sharpness difference would probably mean that you'd want to use the HVX200 for closeups and the HPX250 for wide shots.

kabtv
12-05-2011, 02:03 PM
So it's the same for the hpx170...?

Dino
12-05-2011, 02:59 PM
I spoke to Adam Wilt about the 160 vs. 250 highlight handling and he didn't seem to think there was a big difference, nor did he call out a color difference, but we should wait for his upcoming review to be published.

Mike Warren
12-05-2011, 04:41 PM
but we should wait for his upcoming review to be published.

Oh, we are waiting. Keenly. :)

firehawk
12-05-2011, 05:21 PM
Thank you. That's good news that they should work together. Also good news about Adam wilts upcoming review.

How about working with AVCHD and AVC Intra in the same project? Can they import into the same project in premiere or require transcoding first?