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analog_addict
09-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Is it possible to shoulder mount the FS100 without the use of an EVF or external monitor? I like that the AF100 has a flip out LCD but with the FS100 having its LCD/VF on the top can you make a shoulder rig like the eyespy and use the camera comfortably?

Looks to me like the Zacuto EVF is a must with the FS100 :undecided

finaleditor
09-03-2011, 10:16 PM
Check mico's rig on this page. He made a light rig without using an external viewfinder.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?258034-any-suggestions-for-monitor-viewfinder-rig-system-matte-box-etc.-for-FS-100

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legrevedotcom
09-03-2011, 11:34 PM
I know this might not be the answer you're looking for... But the DIY Ikea shoulder mount works fine for the FS100. I ran with it for 3 hours last weekend. For baseplate I used the shoot35 AF100 baseplate. It slipped right on the Ikea thing without problems. I didn't try but I'm pretty sure I would be able to use the viewfinder as well, however I didn't this time.

Dermot
09-04-2011, 08:29 AM
for a really lightweight setup I use the short viewfinder (Hoodman - identical to Miro's), strip off everything, use the stock handle & handgrip, put a ultra lightweight Minolta mid zoom through the Sony adaptor, velcro the wireless receiver to the side cover.

for medium weight (and i have an assistant) i have an offset that moves the back rods / shoulderpad / counterweight over to the right about 6 inches, this leaves the ff and mattbox on the camera, the rig has a quickrelease at the bottom, so it comes off in one piece instantly.

And another quickrelease at the body so i can slide the camera body out of the rig, and be in really lightweight mode in a few seconds if need be.

matteo1
09-04-2011, 04:53 PM
i just went to Tanzania for three weeks with the FS100 and put together a very simple, very minimal rig that worked without an EVF (Bob Poole helped with the design). I did bring a pile of Red Rock gear, but stripped everything down as soon as I got into the field. As far as monitors, EVFs went, I brought two Cineroid EVFs along but didn't like the lag, the exposure guesswork, etc..

I ended up creating a fairly serviceable shoulder rig. To balance it, half-the-time I had two Lectrosonic wireless receivers attached which worked as a counter-weight and brought in the boom and lav tracks; the rest of the time (when I was running around with the bushmen hunting and didn't bring along the sound person), I strapped on a Fred Flintstone rock with a strip of Landcruiser inner tube and recorded via my shotgun mic. The receivers and the rock weighed about the same. I always kept my Senn. shotgun mic on the rig. When I was shooting with the rig on my shoulder, I'd swing the eyepiece / loupe at an angle and use it as best I could like a normal ENG camera. One problem was when I was following the hunters and had to "interpolate" my direction because of the angle of the eyepiece. Otherwise, I had a tendency to drift into bushes on the side of the trail . . . .

Here are some photos:

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Jordan Scott Price
09-04-2011, 05:32 PM
Really looks like a good external EVF is necessary...

I applaud your boulder design, though. Seriously. That's more than awesome.

thxdave
09-04-2011, 05:47 PM
Hey, and you strapped on a "red rock" to the rig, too. Great pics!

mico
09-04-2011, 06:45 PM
Of course you can shoulder mount the camera and use the lcd. No need for an external EVF if you don't want one. All you need is an offset of some kind. There a re plenty from all different companies.

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Jordan Scott Price
09-05-2011, 02:09 PM
Hey, and you strapped on a "red rock" to the rig, too. Great pics!

A hahaha. Can't believe I didn't think of that!

Searcher
09-05-2011, 05:10 PM
Of course you can shoulder mount the camera and use the lcd. No need for an external EVF if you don't want one. All you need is an offset of some kind. There a re plenty from all different companies.

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Thanks for posting mico. I just ordered a bunch of Berkey stuff based on one of your configurations and the simplicity of this one will also have me ordering more stuff...

Rick Burnett
09-08-2011, 03:19 PM
I tried both the FS100 and AF100 in shoulder mount configurations and the build in LCD/EVF for both were not ideal for me. I want the lens in line with my eyes (the back of the lens) so that is the rotational axis of the system feels right on my shoulder to how my arms shift and what happens to the image being seen. If I put the AF100 or FS100 to far forward, this changes, and the weight is all off requiring A LOT of weight on the back OR weight extended outward away from me (depth wise) which made no sense either.

After looking at ENG cameras that have built in shoulder mount, that is how I determined where I wanted my head with regards to the sensor in the camera. It is SO MUCH more comfortable to use after I did that.

I used a smallHD DP4 and I think that is what I would purchase myself for an EVF solution. I used the Zacuto but I felt overall the image quality on the smallHD was superior (and cheaper). I didn't like the eyecup as much on the DP4, but they are working on some new solutions so I am eagerly awaiting them.

David G. Smith
09-08-2011, 05:19 PM
I use the FS100 with a Proaim shoulder mount without an external monitor or EVF. It is an OK way to work, for me, though I am looking for a better way to do it. I like Rick's suggestion and have been looking real hard at the SmallHD DP4. I have other things to do with my money right at the moment, but that monitor is on top of "The List".

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