Silly Question about a HD TV set and the HVX200

[FatDaddy]

So I want to upgrade my TV and I want to purchase the HVX in the fall...

If I get a 1080i TV set, will I be able to pump 1080i out of the camera (from P2) to the TV and have it be true hi-def? (eventually using HD DVD's once they come out).

What will signals pass through - composite or some HD connection?

Just thought I would ask.

Thanks,
FD

[Zim]

If you can plug the camera into a HD TV I'd say it would be HD you would be watching. I just bought a Sony HD TV and all it needs is a HD signal from somewhere. The cable company has to bring in a box that recieves the signal and that box plugs into the TV. So if a HD camera is sending out a HD signal I guess that works. My guestion do you use RCA jacks?

[kai]

most HD signals to a tv are in the form of component cables or a dvi connection

[Justin_Kirch]

I don't think RCA jacks can carry an HD signal. I think they are....well, what do you call it?....."piece of crappage"??

[FatDaddy]

So I should get a set that has component and DVI (does this mean I could hook up the mac to it?). Haven't started to investigate (best buy here I come!).

Any gueses on what the hvx will have for HD out (I assume this will be true...can play out 1080i from the camera).

Thanks

[NebulaOne]

Most Plasma TV's play 720p, where most tube TV's, Sony especially, has to 'convert' the signal to 720p. Most tube TV's play only 1080i and 480p. If you can find one with the DVI input that would be sweet. Yes, you can hook up a computer to it. Remember, the price of the DVI cable will be around $150, I think. The HD signal does need to be sent across DVI or component inputs (another $40 - $50 for monster component cables). If you have cable you can rent an HD box for $5 a month. If you have direct TV you have to buy the box for $400-$500.

The other small tidbit I would recommmend is that you look for a TV with more than two component inputs. My Panny HDTV has two component inputs and I'm already using them for my PS2 and HD box. I wish I had one more (camera, XBOX, DVD player whatever). I ended up buying one of those Pelican switch boxes, which are pretty sweet.

Also, my HDTV (tube, 36") weighs 245 lbs! You might want to call your friends if you're going to take it home that day.

[kai]

Also, my HDTV (tube, 36") weighs 245 lbs! You might want to call your friends if you're going to take it home that day.

Man I picked up a 43" Samsung DLP and loaded it by myself... I think it's less than 60lbs or so, maybe less.

[David Jimerson]

most HD signals to a tv are in the form of component cables or a dvi connection

Mine has a firewire input. I've never tried to use it.

[NoahK]

The HVX connects to a breakout cable with component output in HD. Specifics as we get closer to release I would think.

[thisiswells]

D4 component is Jap thing.
http://yukihime.com/?p=391

[goober542]

will it on the fly donconvert to ntsc, for field monitors if you don't choose to go straight to hd monitors?

[thisiswells]

Every HDV camcorder will output composite/s-video or HDcomponent...
So... what do you think?

[thisiswells]

There a several very good reasons not to do an SD downconvert for critical monitoring...

The Tip Of The Week from 2/28/05 at the Varicamp HQ:
http://www.hdexpo.net/tipArchive.html

[stephenlnoe]

RCA crappage? What?


RGB component is carried on RCA.

[puredrifting]

Hi Fat:

You wrote: "If I get a 1080i TV set, will I be able to pump 1080i out of the camera (from P2) to the TV and have it be true hi-def? (eventually using HD DVD's once they come out)."

True hi-def? There are not consumer high definition sets of the market that will support a true (1080x1920) raster, have you looked at the true pixel specs of all of the lame plasma and lcd sets? There are many that have enough pixel resolution to natively display 720P but I don't think consumer 1080x1920 resolution sets are hitting the market for a few more months, Westinghouse brand sets with true hi def 1080x1920 resolution were shown at CES in January and will retails for $4,000.00 to $7,000.00 but until then, HD sets are kind of a cheat as far as resolution.

To me, consumer HD sets (today) are a joke. All HD source material that we can view has so much MPEG 2 compression that it looks horrible, block, pixelated and jaggy. Most of the sets have arbitrary weird resolution like 813 x 1264 so that means that all resolution signals are being interpolated and resized to be displayed, which IMHO, is part of the reason "the plasma/lcd emporer has no clothes".

I have an outdated NTSC 36" Sony XBR CRT Sony that blows away the picture quality that my friend's new $5,000.00 Mitsubishi DLP HD set has, it really surprised me how bad the picture looks with cable or DVD on his set in comparison to mine.

Guess everyone has just been hypnotized by the hype of how cool looking a thin set hung on a wall can look but nobody seems to pay attention to what matters, picture quality. I have seen very few HD plasma/lcd sets that even looked acceptable, much less good.

Best,

Dan

[Sean Michael]

I have a 60-inch Sony LCD (XS955). The 1080i HD picture (received OTA via PBS, NBC, CBS, etc.) is stunning.

Even DVDs are outstanding when paired with an upscaling DVD player.

SD picture varies from very good, to mediocre, to unwatchable--depending on the quality of the source signal.

Check out AVS Forum for a strong community that can answer just about every AV question under the sun.

AVS Forum (http://avsforum.com)

[Barry_Green]

True 1080 resolution is possible today only on a CRT, I believe. The Sony XBR 34" CRT shows native 1080, and native 720.

I don't know of a plasma or LCD that can display 1920x1080 in its native resolution. Don't know about D-ILA or DLP sets though.

[johnc]

Actually, there are several D-ILA (LCoS) sets out now that support, and can display with appropriate signal, full res HD (1080px1920). Some of them aren't priced that high either.

johnc

[Graeme_Nattress]

Actually, NO CRT can display full 1080 resolution - they max out at about half that - even a top end CineAlta. If you really want to see ALL the resolution, you need a very expensive projector (DLP, LCOS etc.) or a very good LCD display. Plasmas just don't cut it for me as they seem to add a whole set of artifacts of their own. See my article : http://www.lafcpug.org/reviews/review_decklink.html on what I did to get full 1080p resolution monitoring for my software development.

Graeme

[thisiswells]

True 1080 resolution is possible today only on a CRT

NO CRT can display full 1080 resolution

Oh boy. I saw this one coming a mile away.
Brian
__________________
www.idonthaveabookandidontmakesoftware.com

[Barry_Green]

DOH!

I keep meaning to get a memorystick so I can load up a graphic and see what this darn set can actually do...

[boo]

well this 1080p monito should be out by june. would this be a good option to view an hvx200 108024p mode as well as hd viewing monitor for a nle?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ugHgVRditz2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=153650&I=610DV3750&search=benq

[Graeme_Nattress]

As long is it doesn't scale the 1080p in any way (you never know) that should be great for critical viewing. I wonder how it will handle 1080i (this can be tricky on a progressive display) and what the scaling will be like for 720p.

Graeme

[FatDaddy]

That puppy seems pretty sweet. On a search, Crutchfield came up alot cheaper... wonder why?

Any other comments on the:

BenQ DV3750
37" HDTV-ready LCD TV/PC display

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-GHnUJhZRlAc/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=610DV3750&id=morephotos&a=&s=0&cc=01&g=153650#morephotos with 1920 x 1080 resolution

[boo]

so when working on seperate hd and sd projects, in addition to a high def monitor, we would still need an ntsc monitor because viewing sd footage on a hd monitor would not be accurate?