My thoughts on the new FINAL CUT PRO X (video)

[dandobi.com]

hope you guys enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFMz3jc9Ck

[SPZ]

Good, informative video. Good job, thanks from a fellow FCP editor.

[stoneinapond]

The guy lost me when he started with the fake "gangster" accent @ 0.35.

Fail.

[dwelter]

http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/faq/

[James Fisk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTwv6T1FCo8&feature=player_embedded

[dustylense]

Hey, where did DANdobi's comment go?

[David Saraceno]

Hey, where did DANdobi's comment go?

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[dustylense]

If you wish to contribute please do. There are users seeking assistance in working with FCP X. Please respect those efforts, and review our User Policies:

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Did it get modded out is all I'm asking?

Look, I like FPCX. I am too here for insight and sharing. The more you edit in it, the more it grows on you!

[studio1972]

Saying FCPX is just imovie is like saying FCP7 is just iMovie 06, FCPX is a very complex and powerful piece of software.

[dustylense]

Saying FCPX is just imovie is like saying FCP7 is just iMovie 06, FCPX is a very complex and powerful piece of software.
+1

[thekreative]

FCPX looks like iMovie now, just like Logic looks like Garage Band. In fact they all look alike. Oh and they are all from the same company. If I was going to move from iMovie or Garage Band to their Pro apps I would hope they would have the same basic functions. I remember when every one was cheering when Logic got "Upgraded" to be more like Garage Band.

I'm sticking by FCPX, it needs upgrades but FCP has always needed them. I've never used the first release of any of them for real work, from Final Cut to now.

[Searcher]

That video is embarrassing. Hating on FCPX is turning into a pissing contest. It's as if the more you hate on it the more you must be a professional.

[alkota]

It works for what im doing. Until I become a "pro" ill stick with it. I have Premiere CS5 as a backup... but truthfully, Im editing a little promo video, which is what I mostly do (as well as music videos, etc.) and its perfect. More features to come...

[david_p]

my first reaction to FCPX was pure outrage. after 2 days and since i had already bought it i decided to take a serious look at it. by the 3rd day i though if i really wanted to give it an honest go and really understand what it can do that id need a video tutorial so i went with the trusted Ripple Training course like ive done in the past.

i set out to see how many brick walls i would run into (aside from the obvious one that we all have been bitchin about). honestly most of what i set out to do and even some very extreme things in the way that i like to work my timeline in FCP7...well, i was honestly able to find a solution or livable work-around to just about everything i did. there are obvious things like the lack of interface adjustability which is most frustrating to me at times but there was a way to deal with much of what i was throwing at it.

its simple sort of...but, not really as much as you might thing as least IMHO. its a different way of doing things. that is clear but, truthfully some of the new ways are pretty incredible and ***very clever***. possibly (again besides the lacking big things) this is the future...maybe. its not for a lot of people right now but i think its ready for quite a bit just the same.

i decided that if i was going to give it a fair shot i had to really let go of what im used to and "see" if there really is some potential in X.

if someone doesnt actually sit and experience the full program and its way of editing with an open mind (which is not easy) its real hard to really know what it has to offer as apple's new way of editing....of course you have to overlook the gross missing features of course for now...haha! im more talking about the jest of the program.

im looking forward to getting the motion tutorials very soon to understand more of "rigging" feature and stuff.

david

[cheezweezl]

I'm totally over my outrage. I have fcp7 to use until it won't work with the latest codecs or whatever. I've already started learning premiere and avid and both give me warm fuzzies that fcpx did not. So my initial reaction of "what am I gonna do now?" is gone. I'm good.

Based on what I see on this forum and others, most people who use these tools professionally, have followed a similar path. Not as much anger floating around. Pro's will move on and find new tools when the ones they are used to, break. As they say, its not the hammer that builds the house. Its the carpenter.

I am all about innovation and some of you say that fcpx has some cool features that are generally "game changers" (hate that term). I appreciate that. If apple had only integrated these cool new things into an architecture that was already built on feedback from professionals, we might not be having these debates.

What I find sad is that there are a whole lot of people who seem to be defending apple. It makes no sense to me. Why would anyone do that? Apple is not going to give you any appreciation for sticking up for them. They didn't show pro's any consideration for investing serious money in their products, after all. What apple needs is a call to action from everyone. That's the only way they will restore features that were removed. Otherwise, you can count on being given these things back gradually through a painful process of paid upgrades over an unacceptable amount of time. Just look how long it took to get copy and paste on the iPhone, a feature that my then, 3 year old blackberry already did when the first iPhone came out. Apple knows what they are doing. They are holding back features to ensure sales of future upgrades.

I think fcpx is probably perfect for a certain group of people. It may be intuitive for beginners. If I was just starting, I might love it. However, I learned on the old system, which wasn't very user friendly at first, but as I got used to it, I understood why things were the way they were. Just as they are on every other NLE. Learning avid and premiere have been a breeze because while they are both different from fcp, the basic layout is the same and both apps seem very familiar in the way they work. Again, the way professionals like to, and are used to working.

Do you ever wonder why the letters on your keyboard are in a such a weird order? I don't know for sure, but I will take a stab at it.
Someone probably did a ton of research and figured out that the letters in this order makes for the most efficient typing possible. This became a standard and has been followed for a long long time. Now, if somebody came along and presented a new configuration that made for even more efficient typing, here's what would happen. New users might love it. Old users would surely hate it. And based on what I see, if apple was the company who did it, the keyboard would be missing the E, D, & L keys. Apple would say, that it's a revolutionary new way to type (even though these essential letters are missing). They would dub it a "paradigm shift". And along would come a whole bunch of people with workarounds in the form of alternative words that don't use the missing letters. Crazy.

Ultimately though, I really hope apple steps up and fixes this app. I really want them to be right, and make my job easier so I can go home earlier every day to see my kids. But until they restore all of the pro features, I can't begin to use it. It has no place in my workflow. If everyone would send this message to apple by not buying it, or getting a refund, you can bet apple would get on it, rather than holding out on you for more cash.

[studio1972]

Do you ever wonder why the letters on your keyboard are in a such a weird order? I don't know for sure, but I will take a stab at it.
Someone probably did a ton of research and figured out that the letters in this order makes for the most efficient typing possible. This became a standard and has been followed for a long long time. Now, if somebody came along and presented a new configuration that made for even more efficient typing, here's what would happen. New users might love it. Old users would surely hate it. And based on what I see, if apple was the company who did it, the keyboard would be missing the E, D, & L keys. Apple would say, that it's a revolutionary new way to type (even though these essential letters are missing). They would dub it a "paradigm shift". And along would come a whole bunch of people with workarounds in the form of alternative words that don't use the missing letters. Crazy.

:grin:

[Mark Whalen]

That video is embarrassing. Hating on FCPX is turning into a pissing contest. It's as if the more you hate on it the more you must be a professional.
I agree with 2/3 of this statement. IMHO, the last sentence should read (just for clarification, of course) "It's as if the more you hate on it the more you must be an effete professional."

Are there features that are needed? Absolutely - and some of those solutions are pending. But there are folks who've happily made the switch to FCPX - and are making a living with this 'seemingly inferior' product.

[milksac]

Do you ever wonder why the letters on your keyboard are in a such a weird order? I don't know for sure, but I will take a stab at it.
Someone probably did a ton of research and figured out that the letters in this order makes for the most efficient typing possible. This became a standard and has been followed for a long long time. Now, if somebody came along and presented a new configuration that made for even more efficient typing,...
I'm guessing you've never heard of the Qwerty vs. Dvorak debate.

[TimTheFoolMan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY)Thankfully, all we need is a keyboard. None of those pesky WIMP (Windows, Icons, Mouse, Pointer) interfaces for me! - Tim