2/3" ccd version of hdx?

[Party_Pooper]

Any info on this bad boy? I heard mention of it in another thread.

[Barry_Green]

They showed a very brief tease during the "HD in 3D" presentation, showing that there would be another P2 camera next year, a bigger shoulder-mount version. Don't remember if they specifically said 2/3", but I believe it was.

[caseyhayward]

This would be very cool. More expensive, but very cool. I own the DVX (love it) but I frequently shoot on the SDX. What a beautiful camera! CCD size in this whole HD discussion is surprisingly nonexistent. I think it is so important to image quality.

An HD camera similary positioned to the DVX-SDX relationship would be great but might not happen if it cut into varicam sales. The SDX and the varicam do have the same size CCDs after all.

[obin]

CCD size is HUGE..it means flat "video" or lots of DOF control like film....I guess the normal TV camera opp does not care at all...

I would take less resolution and bigger chips if I had the option

[NoahK]

I think it's inevitable that a cheaper camera equal to the Varicam will appear. An SDX900-esque version of the HVX200 would fit the bill nicely and there's bound to be a lot of producers not able to buy in at $65K who will jump right in at $25K. The Varicam has had an amazingly long run already so perhaps the writing's on the wall here.

[dsleep]

The possibilty of it being tapeless is intriguing as well. That would make it a different animal than the varicam. Also, much cheaper to make. I would jump at a 2/3 inch ccd version of a P2 based cam in a heartbeat. If it was indeeed around $25,000ish.

[Barry_Green]

I would jump at a 2/3 inch ccd version of a P2 based cam in a heartbeat. If it was indeeed around $25,000ish.
There are already two 2/3" P2 cams out there, the SPX800 (at $19,000) and the SPC700 (at ... er... I don't remember the price, but it's a lot less than $19,000).

Now, neither is HD, but they're both 2/3" and they both do DVCPRO50 and they're both P2-based. Main difference is that the SPX supports 24p/30p/60i, where the SPC is 60i-only.

[dsleep]

Yeah, I'm talking HD. Would be nice to have something at a lower price point than the Varicam. Which I'm assuming would be possible if it was tapeless and P2 only.

[thisiswells]

What others are suggesting is that maybe someday there will be a VariCam that uses P2 instead of tape. That alone would reduce the price of the package by half. Consider the camera is 66K and the HD deck with firewire is 25K. With P2, the camera would be at least 16K less because it wouldn't have tape--and then you also wouldn't need a deck to import it into your editor. It makes too much sense for them not to do it. So, we all believe that they will do it, at some point, since they've already done it with the SD camera (SDX900tape/SPX800P2) and the smaller format camera (DVXtape/HVXP2) so it only makes sense they will update the VariCam model with a P2 recording system since they've already done it with the other product lines. So, count on it. Probably be another year or two, so enjoy what you've got now and anticipate awesome new things in the future.

brian wells

[satellitebunny]

My personal belief is that as these smaller and cheaper P2 cameras become better equiped than the VariCam, Panasonic is going to make a new camera for their high-end cinema customers. I'd guess it would be D5-HD on a P2 card in a couple of years, to battle the sony HDCAM-SR cameras (did they already make those, or is HDCAM-SR still only a deck format? I don't remember, but anyway...) and the Viper-Venom combination.
So, they'll move DVCPRO-HD to be their prosumer/professional television format, and make D5-HD their high-end format.
Just a guess.

[Mediacre]

I think there's still no SR camcorders.