Forget HD.. DSLR is way to go!

[booggerg]

this movie shot entirely with the Canon 20D SLR at 5fps and 8mega pix... Give it a few more year and the advent of electronic shutter we can say good bye to HD camcorders!!!

http://patrykrebisz.com/stills/FINAL_movie.html

[TC]

Hey, that's pretty cool!

[Jaime Valles]

That was great! Very interesting style, and the editing was excellent.

That's a lot of dynamic range and great low-light performance, btw!

Awesome.

[reservoir]

I've always wondered if it would be possible to make a REAL movie with a Digital Camera!?! Alot of them can record 30sec clips or more depending on the memory card. I mean why not......a DSLR with a 8 megapixel or better picture....

(in a Paris Hilton voice)

.....That's Hot!!

~reservoir~

[David Jimerson]

Hack a Digital Rebel and make it continuously take 24 shots per second with a shutter speed of 1/48. Got to be possible, even if other limitations (like card write speed) may hamper you.

[greeches]

what about hooking up a DSLR to DV rack and recording?

[Shaw]

I'm not sure that DSLR's have the refresh rate necessary. It's really chip dependent. I would be surprised if you could get the chip to pump out 24 frames a second.

[TC]

Not to mention that the shutter on a 20d is rated to last 150,000 snaps (or maybe that's how many are covered by waranty.) So that's about 4.34 seconds.

[Policar]

Yeah, you'd need an electronic shutter and a chip which refresehes faster. Still, if it can do 5fps at near 4k res (and others can do 8fps+), you have to think that a similar chip could do 24fps at HDTV resolution. Canon's CMOS chips are pretty amazing, too. They can do 1600ISO with surprisingly little grain, and 400ISO (probably closest to the dvx) with next to none. The dynamic range isn't bad, either.

[kai]

my new 1Ds MII has an iso range up to 3200... its INSANE

[TC]

"Ooh, look at me, I'm kai. I just wanted an excuse to point that I have a Mark II."

Bastard. :beer:

[booggerg]

The canon 1D series does 8fps at 8megapix resolution... if they come out with an electronic shutter, and faster buffer bus, i don't see why it couldn't do 24fps in the near future. This would put an end to HD.. i mean, we're talking about true 35mm resolution with the same DOF etc...

WOW this would be sweet!

[TC]

Uh oh, the guys who got a new mortgage to fund the HVX are startin' to sweat.

[kai]

"Ooh, look at me, I'm kai. I just wanted an excuse to point that I have a Mark II."

Bastard. :beer:

hehehe its good to be the king :kiss:

[Dizkoteck]

Is it really neccessary to have the clicking sound repeating through the duration of the movie? but stil, each individual frame is freaking amazing... I go for that over HD anyday.

You probably remember me from another post about photography. Im getting into DSLR, Im eyeing the Canon 20D or 350D, but Im am totally lost when it comes to choosing the right lens. Now Im gonna sound stupid, but what do the numbers mean and what else I should be looking for in lenses. As for what I might be shooting, maybe macro, maybe landscape... I'll probably make that decsiion as soon as I find out the right lens for the right situation. Thanks a lot

BTW, I would ask DPreview but their registration is a bitch... thats sad, I wanted to join too

[scharky]

unfortunatly, getting 24fps out of a DSLR is technically impossible. You are forgetting that there is not only a shutter, but a mirror that has to flip up each and every time you shoot. you have to have that mirror in order to see, so you can't just lock up the mirror. THis would only work on a digital camera that is not a DSLR. There is no way that you could get that mirror flipping 24 times each second, and even if you could, you would not be able to see anything out of the viewfinder.
I have done some extensive shots with a DSLR for a film that I am working on, and after about the first 5 seconds, the camera (10D) would slow down to about 1fps. Still cameras are great for stop motion, timelaps, and other special effects, but I wouldn't be holding on to getting a smooth moving image out of an SLR type camera, ever.

[Policar]

True, but I think that's not the real issue so much as the sensor is. I mean, you could put a dSLR's sensor in a point and shoot and overcome that problem (at the cost of a reflex viewfinder) but the sensor itself only refreshes eight times a second I think. That's the issue.

[KOVAROVA]

cool short. but had to watch it with the sound off.. that shutter sound was a bit too much..

[booggerg]

True, but I think that's not the real issue so much as the sensor is. I mean, you could put a dSLR's sensor in a point and shoot and overcome that problem (at the cost of a reflex viewfinder) but the sensor itself only refreshes eight times a second I think. That's the issue.

That is correct. Tremendous effort was put into the buffer bus to get 8fps worth of data off of the sensor. Heat is a major obstacle in this respect but I suspect they can bring the technology up to allow 24fps. We don't need no stinkin' 8mp, hell even my Canon D30 at 3 mega pix beats HD quality.

One thing Im' not well versed in is what the design difference is between sensors from still cams and sensors from video cameras. A single 1/8" sensor from a cheap point n' shot digital camera still beats almost all video camera's output.

[dvpixl]

that's one hell of way to make a movie.

im sure soon you wont be able to tell the difference between a panavision and a canovision. :cheesy:

sweet frames. loved the short. hate the shutter sound. good story.

[thisiswells]

i'm mkn a neww futere fim, and i went to no whets a beter cam, shood i go widt da canovision or pannyvision.. i m woryied abut dis,,pls hlp.

[marctronixx]

this skit was way cool. editing and pace was nice also... yeah had to lose the sound efx..

i shot several little skits on my sony cd500. yep its electronic, but i could record up to 8 about 8 minutes on the discs at 18 fps...

[Stanrick_Kubley]

Oh, this tortures me! It's painful to shoot on my DSLR and then shoot mini-DV, and I've dreamed of a video cam with DSLR image quality. It would be overkill by a long shot, but still.

[speedbump]

That was cool. The imagery was nice; wouldn't we love to have that kind of latitude on our DVXs?

I have an olympus 3mpixel camera, and I climbed up on my roof last year and shot a sunset, clicking a shot every 15 seconds or so until my capture card was full. I had about 20 minutes of 'time-lapse' photography, at 1920 x 1024 resolution, which I imported into Premiere Pro and made into a short movie. This was before I had figured out how to manually control exposure and other settings on the camera, but it was a good proof of concept for how many options we've actually got as film makers.

I've been considering using that camera as an adjunct to the DVX in terms of sneaking in stills at high res which can be zoomed, panned, etc.

[kitsu]

Dude, that was very good.

I loved the color and clarity.
The story was pretty engaging.

I agree that the sound was terribly distracting.
It was an interesting look to the video at that frame rate.

~Andrew