View Full Version : New HD100 NAB Info!

04-20-2005, 06:21 PM
Analog component out – I spent half an hour with a JVC engineer at the JVC booth. His statement was that the analog component output was uncompressed 4:2:2 at 720p60. The camera is thus a good candidate for hard lining into a truck or studio. I checked around NAB for options for converting the analog 4:2:2 720p60 video to HD-SDI. The two converters I found were a) Miranda HD Bridge DEC ($4k). Their engineer agreed that a smaller, less expensive camera-mounted version should be something they should develop for cameras like the HD100. b) A new prototype made by a Japanese competitor of Miranda – marketed by G-Met Solutions (L.A). It was a non-working mockup about the same size as the Miranda box, and sitting next to a Z1.

Firewire output – Only 720p24 and 720p30 are output through the Firewire bus – no 720p60. The output from the Firewire is obviously after MPEG2 compression. No 720p60 Firewire output to the Firestore FS-4 is possible. Bummer!
ACM-12 ” to 1/3” Step Down – ACM-12 will reportedly be made by Fujinon. I asked the engineer at JVC and an engineer at the Fujinon booth about the JVC-published diagram that shows three Fujinon ” SD lenses (S20x6.4, S17x6.6, S14x7.3) as usable on the HD100. They both concurred that those lenses (and two Canon lenses listed) should be usable on the HD100. The echoed the assessment of Focus Optics on the situation: the ” lenses should have adequate resolution capability, and when used, they will have narrower depth of field, narrower degree of coverage, and be slightly more sensitive to light (faster). When I specifically asked about using the S20x6.4, a lens I own, the Fujinon engineer commented that the 20x uses comparable glass to the new Fujinon 16x that comes stock on the HD100. The 20x image might be slightly softer, but if you were shooting 24p, that might not be a bad thing. Bottom line: legacy ” SD lenses can be used effectively on the HD100. Link: http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/pro/prohd/gy-hd100/sys.html

Third Party Accessories for the HD100 – An engineer at Century Precision Optics stated that Century would be making a wide-angle converter for the new Fujinon 16x. He also agreed with me that a 1/3” 2x extender should be produced by Century. I checked out the Avel Link Network Media Player. At about $250, it is an affordable pathway for display and distribution of HDV footage in MPEG2TS, WM9, and Divx4. Many more manufacturers voiced their interest in producing accessory gadgets for the HD100.

Tripod plate and adapter – Unfortunately, the tripod plate and adaptor costs a whopping $965 suggested retail. My guess is that if someone is buying an HD100 camera package, this is the first place to grind down the price of the package. It’s a sturdy setup, but a steep price.

That’s my final bunch of tidbits. Hope this helps in everybody’s decision process. For me, it’s out of here tomorrow morning for home - the beautiful California Central Coast!



04-21-2005, 12:09 AM
Here are some pics from the JVC tent on Wednesday:
http://homepage.mac.com/thisiswells/NAB2005 - 67.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/thisiswells/NAB2005 - 68.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/thisiswells/NAB2005 - 69.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/thisiswells/NAB2005 - 70.jpg

04-21-2005, 03:53 AM
is that a mini35?!!!

04-21-2005, 11:38 AM
Yes that is a mini35.

04-21-2005, 12:32 PM
I went to the Mini35 booth and those guys were kinda jerks. Not sure if that's just a German thing or what. They weren't showing any video of their stuff in action either. Just weird. I sure hope one of these home built mini35 knockoffs work out. I can't believe they aren't budging on their price. Are they really selling many of those at $10k?

A mini35 on this camera might be downright dangerous. Hey - if I could get this JVC as body-only amd then put the saved cash towards a mini.....hmmm.

04-21-2005, 12:34 PM
yeah, to rental companies.

04-21-2005, 01:20 PM
Were you asking questions about how the Mini35 works or anything like that? Because if you were, that might be why they acted like that. There are many people copying their idea and maybe they are just skeptical. I also heard they will be suing some people for copyright issues. It seems they are watching some of those home made mini35 and just waiting till they go commercial to sue. Now, don't quote me on that. I heard it in a forum, so you never know if it's true.

04-21-2005, 01:24 PM
Dare to be original, prepare to be copied.

04-21-2005, 01:36 PM
You're right. But that's not always how the law sees it :laugh:

04-21-2005, 04:52 PM
Were you asking questions about how the Mini35 works or anything like that?

No, not at all. I actually stood there looking at their stuff for what seemed like 10 minutes before the guy even said "hello". Maybe he was worn out or English wasn't his best language or he thought I didn't have 10k. I wasn't in a suit. :-)

The one question I did ask is why the Pro version is so much more expensive when they are showing a Mini35 on the Sony HDV camera. I still don't really understand that. He just said it was more expensive to interface with the expensive cameras. Uh.. Okay.

Do you guys know if the one in the photo on the JVC is a Canon mount? Or do you think they've got a new JVC version? I'm unclear as to what type of mount the JVC has.

I can actually see a Mini35 being worth (gulp) $10k in THIS situation IF it really looked good. I might be able to rent it as there are none of these units in my town for rent. I don't think the doityourselfer guys are actually making units that mount on a Canon the way the mini35 does. They seem to have 72mm filter solutions.

04-21-2005, 06:14 PM
Isn't the one in the pic with the HD100 a Pro35?

04-21-2005, 06:33 PM
No, that's a mini35.

You can see the two here:

The Pro's say "Pro" really big on them and are shaped kinda round. The Mini is square with a 35 on the side.

04-21-2005, 06:33 PM
Isn't the one in the pic with the HD100 a Pro35?

04-21-2005, 06:50 PM
So maybe the mount is just a mock up for showing the possibility of future developments?