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cheezweezl
06-03-2011, 05:32 AM
here's a clip shot at 30db in very minimal light. this was at midnight and the only nearby light source was a streetlight about 30 feet away. this was shot with a 50mm f1.8.

below are grabs of the original, ungraded clip and the same clip with the neat video plugin applied.

https://files.me.com/fisherfilmworks/kh6onb

https://files.me.com/fisherfilmworks/n5i66x

i'm amazed at how clean this is, even before the plugin. not to mention the color reproduction at this high gain setting. my eyes didn't even come close to seeing this color and detail.

here is the footage in prores 422 format.

original (https://files.me.com/fisherfilmworks/9lg1za.mov)

cleaned with neat video (https://files.me.com/fisherfilmworks/7x4z8r.mov)

kprince
06-03-2011, 06:24 AM
very nice, thanks for posting!

ectobuilder
06-03-2011, 09:09 AM
The file flower_NV seems to not play on my Quicktime nor VLC Player.

Which codec do I need?

cheezweezl
06-03-2011, 09:14 AM
Both clips are prores 422 exported from the fcp timeline. Try redownloading?

ectobuilder
06-03-2011, 09:23 AM
very nice, thanks for posting!

Yup that worked = redownload lol

Which external device did you use to record the ProRes? And was it ProRes422 HQ?

And could you try to do the same thing under AVCHD 24Mbps and see how that fairs?

FelixGER
06-03-2011, 09:43 AM
That certainly is AVCHD, just exported as proress

TimurCivan
06-03-2011, 09:56 AM
Yea the fs/f3 chip really has great color rendition.

Cory Braun
06-03-2011, 09:59 AM
Very impressive. Was it pitch black out?

ectobuilder
06-03-2011, 10:10 AM
that certainly is avchd, just exported as proress

my lord!!! Wow!

maranfilms
06-03-2011, 10:17 AM
this sensor is insane, Nasa should be all over sony to make something for space photography.

TimurCivan
06-03-2011, 10:19 AM
Well I'm sure nasa has something a bit more sophisicated than the F3 sensor. ;)

But yes. Its insaaaaane.

cheezweezl
06-03-2011, 10:20 AM
That certainly is AVCHD, just exported as proress

Yup, that was recorded internally and converted to prores using the log and transfer ingest in final cut. I am getting an external recorder but haven't decided which one yet....


Very impressive. Was it pitch black out?

Not pitch black. This is on a street with traffic and street lights. But it was in a poorly lit area and I couldn't see 75% of what the camera saw with my naked eye.

TimurCivan
06-03-2011, 10:23 AM
Yup, that was recorded internally and converted to prores using the log and transfer ingest in final cut. I am getting an external recorder but haven't decided which one yet....

The nanoflash is awesome. @100mbps 422 intra, you should be getting spectacular results.

vcfilms
06-03-2011, 11:12 AM
The nanoflash is awesome. @100mbps 422 intra, you should be getting spectacular results.

+1, I have it an it's excellent

Rick Burnett
06-03-2011, 11:25 AM
Wow, that is amazing how much NV cleaned that up. What I like about the noise is it is so much more grain like to me. As opposed to noise with chroma components that I don't feel cleans as well.

Hidef1080
06-03-2011, 11:45 AM
....What I like about the noise is it is so much more grain like to me. As opposed to noise with chroma components that I don't feel cleans as well.

Agreed.

I can live with "grain-like" noise but blue, red and green flakes... not so much.:thumbsup:

cheezweezl
06-03-2011, 12:02 PM
for sure. i would take that 30db look as-is any day of the week. it's just nice to know that if you shoot a show clean, then have to cut in some 30db stuff, that it cleans to perfection with a little NV.

Rick Burnett
06-03-2011, 12:46 PM
How aggressive were you with NV? I'm curious how it will handle some images with fine detail in them with noise. Testing shall ensue shortly on my end :)

cheezweezl
06-03-2011, 02:48 PM
How aggressive were you with NV? I'm curious how it will handle some images with fine detail in them with noise. Testing shall ensue shortly on my end :)

My neat video work flow was as follows.

Auto profile
Auto fine tune
Render

BlackWolf
06-03-2011, 03:42 PM
Now where did i leave my Super Farron 76mm F/0.87 and Canon 50mm F/0.75.... hehe.
Is there an option to go beyond 30db? I bet it would be usable too with some noise reduction.

Nightvision anyone?

Rick Burnett
06-03-2011, 03:44 PM
No, +30dB is the maximum. Anything more and it might see into the Walternate universe. :)

Richard Allen Crook
06-03-2011, 04:18 PM
I'm really liking the noise pattern. Looks like grain.

NeedCreative
06-03-2011, 05:16 PM
Yeah I agree. The digital-looking colored noise I see on the 5D Mark II at 3200 and above (and far worse on a 7D) is really hard to take. The noise here is far lighter and far more "filmic" and grain like. And easier to clean up in post. Amazing low light from this cam.

cheezweezl
06-03-2011, 05:28 PM
Is there an option to go beyond 30db? I bet it would be usable too with some noise reduction.

Nightvision anyone?


well actually... i did shoot this at 1/48 shutter. so you could always take it down to 1/24 and get yet another stop of light in there....

at this rate, next step, ND filters at night to avoid the shadows blowing out..

HHL
06-03-2011, 07:00 PM
Thank you so much for posting this. 5K? AMAZING!!!! I LOVE the grain. Just think...it's only ISO16000. (Notice the EXTRA zero here folks) I am STUNNED. :)

Pcenginefx
06-03-2011, 07:55 PM
WOWWW.....thank you for the clip. I CAN'T believe you took this at midnight......it looks like it was shot in the daytime...and the grain looks great! I'm so glad I ordered the cam!

Doctor Wu
06-04-2011, 12:56 AM
The one bad thing about such sensitive cameras, is that more directors and producers will say "Grip Truck? Lights? Not in the budget. Why? When you can shoot with a FS100 or F3 with street lamps!"

MARK MY WORDS CINEMATOGRAPHERS WHO LIKE TO LIGHT. IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. very soon.

cheezweezl
06-04-2011, 01:18 AM
That already happens. Has been since they found out DSLRs are made of magic and fairy dust. I have the perfect remedy for it. Use the word "NO" and if that doesn't work, walk away. I love that we can now get shots that have never before been possible. And while it is somewhat of a "game changer", most of the game works great as is and doesn't need changing. I will continue to light as always and use the new tricks where needed.

olindacat
06-04-2011, 02:34 AM
Wow cheezweezl you've been working OT! Really cool tests and great to see you're a happy camper.

Kholi
06-04-2011, 09:46 PM
Still a month or so since I shot with this thing and I'm still starving for it.

Holding out for an MKIII update, but if nothing soon I'll probably be shooting FS100 for most stuff, including the next feature.

Doctor Wu
06-04-2011, 10:13 PM
Yeah, it looks to be a good holdover camera until something better comes along in the less than $7K category.

I'm getting mine from EC Junior next week. Looks like a pain ergonomically, no sdi, no nd's, no real viewfinder but image quality is the holy grail for most of us. And we'll do what we have to do to work around it's limitations.

HHL
06-04-2011, 10:17 PM
no sdi, no nd's, no real viewfinder but image quality is the holy grail for most of us. And we'll do what we have to do to work around it's limitations.

+1