JVC Price - $6,295

[redindian]

The GY-HD100 with a Fujinon 16X HD lens will be $6,295.00 and delivery in June/July

A 13X HD wide angle lens from Fujinon is also available for $6000+

Got this info from JVC's Brian Rutz in his email telecast.

[reservoir]

Any Official Confirmation from NAB? Websites? Anything?

~reservoir~

[Barry_Green]

Not bad at all. Way below $10,000. I wonder if that's the price they wanted to come out at, or if Panasonic's announcement tipped 'em that way? Either way, that's a very reasonable price!

[redindian]

This is the email I got


Greetings from the 2005 NAB, my 28th NAB in a row!!!!!

Well, tomorrow is the big day when we unveil to the public the GY-HD100 ProHD camcorder. And what a sweet camcorder it is!

We have one stage set up specifically for the GY-HD100 and have six of them on display in various configurations. For example, one is as it comes out of the box while another is tricked out with matte box and follow-focus and a six inch LCD HD screen in cinematography style. We even have one on a remote pan and tilt system, something you might see as a POV camera or perhaps in a TV station for an HD news cut in.

BOTH viewfinders on the GY-HD100 are color and there is a feature called FOCUS ASSIST which greatly improves focus accuracy. It is a very interesting concept I found works very well. You’ll have to see how it works when we finally get demo units later this Spring.

The GY-HD100 has many more features but this will suffice for now.

The BR-HD50 is there demonstrating the ProHD workflow. In this operational example the BR-HD50 is set up to spool HDV material into an NLE system. From there we take the completed master HD program and transfer it to our HD D-VHS format. This is an example of low-cost HD distribution. We are also showing a prototype DVD data disk player that can playback DVD-R data disks which record MPEG-2 TS, the native data format of ProHD, and then can play back up to an hour of HD video data from a single layer DVD data disk!

There is another GY-HD100 set up on the Standard Definition (SD) stage because it of course records standard DV as well. It is displayed along with our GY-DV550, the World’s first studio camcorder system, our KY-F560 studio system and of course our great GY-DV5100 and GY-DV5000 Direct To Edit (DTE) camcorders.

A large area of our booth is dedicated to the “three A’s; Apple, Adobe and Avid, each showing ProHD native editing. They will be doing presentations and demos of their NLE systems.

Of course there is more, such as a couple of examples of applications of our DLA-HD2K native 1920X 1080 projectors and other HD displays. We have an ENG van in the booth which utilizes our MPEG-2 encoders and decoders demonstrating how HD from the GY-DV100 or a D-VHS deck can be sent via standard analog microwave systems – a dramatic cost saving for the TV broadcaster.

Oh, the price: The GY-HD100 with a Fujinon 16X HD lens will be $6,295.00 and we expect to be able to deliver product in July. Yes, we anticipated product deliveries in June but as we get farther along we can get a more realistic idea of when actual deliveries can take place. Our factory will be going all out to build them as quickly and as carefully as they can. By the way there is also available a 13X HD wide angle lens from Fujinon which in and of itself is more expensive than the package noted above but may have a wide range of applications for the video filmmaker. Remember, the GY-HD100 does record a 720/24p (not psf) signal which may be played back at 720/60p if you like.

ProHD brochures are expected from Japan in a couple of weeks and if you have provided us with your snail mail address a copy will be sent to you as soon as they arrive.

By the way we have just introduced an exciting program on the GY-DV5100 Professional DV camcorder. For the customer who purchases a GY-DV5100 camcorder from a participating local dealer we will offer the customer a choice of either a FREE BR-DV3000 Professional DV recorder/player OR a $2,000 certificate direct from JVC Professional which is to be applied to the purchase, from the dealer from whom the GY-DV5100 was purchased, of a GY-HD100 or a BR-HD50. The purchaser may choose one or the other and only once, regardless of how many camcorders are purchased. Now that is a heck of a deal!

Anyway, all indications are we are going to be run off our feet the next four days and I am sure it will be both exciting an exhausting. I must admit I am certainly looking forward to it.

So from Las Vegas….


Best regards,
Brian A. Rutz
District Sales Manager

[reservoir]

Wowzers....Cool news!! Junk Video.....NO MORE!!

~reservoir~

[redindian]

I wonder if they sell Body only...

So if a real HD lens costs $6000 - they can sell the body for ..hmm...maybe... $295?

:beer:

[thisiswells]

As a constructive, non-negative criticism, this camera does not appeal to me because the
standard 16X lens does not cover useful focal lengths needed in production.

If JVC is listening, it would be wise to build a package with the 13X and lose the idea
of selling a half-inch lens with a 1/3" camcorder. That just doesn't make any sense.

[Barry_Green]

They've already said that the Fujinon wide-angle lens will cost more than the camera+lens package. If they were to bundle that together, it might be -- who knows, $10,000? $12,000? We'll have a better idea when we see the MSRP on the 3.5 wide-angle lens.

[Aaron Koolen]

Can you guys fill me in on why a 13x lens in the package should be so much more expensive than the one they are offering? I know little about lenses.

Aaron

[Robert_Niemann]

I wonder if that's the price they wanted to come out at, or if Panasonic's announcement tipped 'em that way?JVC were the first, who made an announcement regarding the price. You already could have read it days before at two official JVC sites (Great Britain and Germany). Also see this: http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=24602.

[xray]

JVC GY-HD100 with a good lens or the fat new HDX with P2? I think JVC is doing a good job here. So is the price.

[Kennedy]

Can you guys fill me in on why a 13x lens in the package should be so much more expensive than the one they are offering? I know little about lenses.

Aaron
To make a gross generalization, super-wide angle zooms are typically more difficult to make than standard wide zooms. It's the same with still-photo lenses. Check out the price on a 10-22 mm compared to an 18-80. For some reason that I don't understand, it's just more difficult to get quality images at wide angles. However, in this case, it does seem like a huge price difference. I was thinking they would offer the camera with the option of either lens at the stated price. So much for that. Still, the lens looks very "pro."

[thisiswells]

It's so FUNNY to see people trying to mimic a 'film look' by adding noise to videomaterial. In the cinema-world we don't see any grain in film-negative over the last decade!


Mostly just grain aliasing from telecine transfers... That's what most people see.
The perception of grain from a film-to-tape transfer is pretty noticeable to me.

[xray]

You have been in a good cinema for a long time.. ;>0

[joelnet]

I just got back from NAB. I was quoted $12,000 for the wide lens. Alone. No camera... just $12k for the lens. (I have not verified this number, it was a quip from a JVC rep who I was talking to).

I was blown away by the price of $6250 MSRP though. I also thought the image quality seemed nice but it's really hard to tell with doing a side by side against other cameras. They did do a side by side against their $100k camera and it looked good. Not AS good, but not $90k worse IMO.

Asthetically I thought it looks much nicer than either the Sony or the new Panny. I went to NAB knowing I'd buy the Panny... but now I'm not sure. I really need to hear more.

[Sirius_Doggy]

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http://www.pbase.com/siriusdoggy/image/42302896.jpg

[joelnet]

Yep - that's is. Kinda long and skinny, but the lens looks great. The HVX200 and Sony look pregnant.

[thisiswells]

I just got back from NAB. I was quoted $12,000 for the wide lens. Alone. No camera... just $12k for the lens.

hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahha ha!
that's funny; it's ten times the price of the lens that comes with the camera.



Asthetically I thought it looks much nicer than either the Sony or the new Panny.

You must only be talking about only the bodies, right? HVX is in advanced
developmental, but still could be altered if people don't respond well to the color.

brian wells

[joelnet]

You must only be talking about only the bodies, right? HVX is in advanced
developmental, but still could be altered if people don't respond well to the color.

brian wells

The color? The color of the one's at the show were the same as a DVX100 as far as I could tell. They looked fine... just fat. I personally think the body style is probably locked in at this point. It looks like a finished product. I think the software is still very much in development. At least that's what I took away from the meeting with Jan.

The JVC is much more streamlined, but the lens is long so the who thing seems a little "too" long. But the lens does make it look much more professional than the other cameras it's competing with IMHO.

Everyone I spoke with was really impressed by it. I know it caught me off guard because I wasn't even considering it when I got off the plane to Vegas.

[thisiswells]

Joelnet,

Thanks. Bummed I couldn't make the meeting. I will be there tomorrow though and will
be certain to make an extra effort to check out both products. The JVC definitely looks cool,
but I could really use the framerates in a variable-cam regardless of form factor, so for me
that's probably the deciding factor more than anything. Otherwise, I would stay in SD and not
even think about HD... to me the benefit is framerates which open up many creative options.

brian wells

[mr._guiyotinne]

I read, i think in HD for indies that you must pay more than 900$ just for a tripod adapter...

Pretty "indie" IMO...

[Sirius_Doggy]

It looks like a finished product.

Funny, my first thought when I saw it was that it WAS a mockup. It didn't have the LOOK of a production line model to me. Maybe that's why it was under glass.

[joelnet]

I read, i think in HD for indies that you must pay more than 900$ just for a tripod adapter...

Pretty "indie" IMO...

If that's true when it comes out then it'll kinda suck. But lets see what the street price with that adapter really is.

@thisiswells - I agree that the frame rate option on the Panasonic is very cool and I would use it, so that's a big point for it.

@sirius - As for the actual Panasonic design, maybe the feedback here will send them back to the drawing board, but I'm betting we'll get something pretty close to what we saw at NAB. To you it looked like a mockup. I saw "done, but not very sexy". That ought to tell Panny something, I'm sure it's not the first time they've gotten that reaction.

[xray]

I say 'fat and unpretty'. Maybe Pana has to take a look at the JVC or even the Z1...