The Guerilla35 35mm adapter demos are up.

[JHouser]

We are happy to say that we have some new demos of the G35 up on our site. www.guerilla35.com

thanks!

Jonathan-

[reservoir]

1st post? This sure came out of nowhere!! Had anyone else heard of this project? I hope its not more 35mm vaporware. The demos look nice. Let's see some pics and prices. ~reservoir~

[Daniel Skubal]

Wow! Very very impressive! What are you charging for one of those badboys? And is it rotating or stationary ground glass? I think I may have to step in line for this product.

[Rich Lee]

any more info? pics of the adaptor? price?

footage looks cool...

[BLUESPIDER]

hmm, I'm trying to sniff this one out. At least show some pics. The demos do look nice but its just missing something...





Then again, if you're charging $50 bucks for it I'm down! I can risk 50 no prob.

[tartanscribeathletic]

Greetings from a writer/actor turned Newbie Director. Can someone tell me what "35mm vaporware" actually is? I got on the bus later than you guys. Thanks.

[marctronixx]

there are a couple of products on the market (or coming to market) that can give us the DOF you see on film camers on our 100A's.. we have seen a couple people dangle the carrot out in front of us but its been weeks since we have seen any more updates (well now the micro35 camp has posted some updates).

anyway, vaporware is "warez" that seem to , ahem, "Vaporize" in front of your eyes... never make it to light...

[Nick Adams]

I'll just sit back till I start hearing the praises from people who one day are able to buy one of these adapters..... until then I don't want to bother with the hope of a system until it''s available...

[Jim Brennan]

It's always intriguing to me when people have their very first post as a sales pitch. Not even a "Hi, how are you?"

It's surprisingly affordable, but they don't say how much; they don't post pics of the harware, and they don't tell you what kind of camera they shot the footage with...Weird.

[JHouser]

It's always intriguing to me when people have their very first post as a sales pitch. Not even a "Hi, how are you?"


Vjbernan: Hi, Hello, and how are you :). My name is Jonathan Houser. I am co partner in H&H optics in Seattle. My partner Doug Hooter and I have been working on this project seriously for 8 months now. My sincere apologies for just popping in and posting out of the blue. I did not mean to do that. However I did not want to start posting until we had some demo footage up and until we absolutely knew we had a usable adapter not just "vaporware" as some of you put it. We have been on 2-pop for a little while but have not net posted on Dvxuser yet. I will try to field some of your questions.

Resevoir : I can assure you this is not 35mm Vaporware. This product is a compact static adapter that used no batteries and is very flexible. I personally shot all of the footage you see on the demo with our early versions of the prototype.

DJ200423/Rich Lee : The price is not yet determined as we are still dialing in the housing. We’ve met with our engineer and the initial drafting plans are going to be more expensive than we had hoped, so we are making sure that our optical path is perfect before we start drafting. We do however intend to start selling our prototypes, which render a very high quality image, they just don't have a 1 piece machined aluminum housing that terminates to bayonet mount for the DVX. They are 72mm thread.

Blue Spider: Well that is one thing that we can guarantee you. This adapter will not be $50. We will are hoping to come in under the $1200 range. Possibly under $1000. We are using very high-end optics so things add up quickly. I can tell you this though. When all is said and done, our adapter should feel every bit as good as the Century Optics .65 zoom through adapters while being just a bit longer. You will not need rails. If you are shooting with anything longer than an 85mm lens it might be a good idea though. :)

: Nick Adams. Great Idea. We are honored to say that Barry Green as well as some other 2-pop administrators will be testing our adapters. So rest assured, none of you will be taking a "risk" when you are ready to buy one.

I will be on here answering questions as well as I can. You might also want to check our discussion board on our site for more current updates. You can also e-mail me at jon@guerilla35.com

Thanks!
Jonathan-

[Jim Brennan]

There ya go. Thanks. Nice to meet you.

[J_Barnes]

I've never understood why gorillas are so heavily involved in making movies.

Must be a silverback thing...

[Shaw]

Hi Jon,

I'd be most interested in hearing more about the optics used. I'm sure you can't disclose too much of course. Did you have this designed by an optical engineer or is it just the result of lots of experimentation? I couldn't quite tell from your post.

[JHouser]

Hi Jon,

I'd be most interested in hearing more about the optics used. I'm sure you can't disclose too much of course. Did you have this designed by an optical engineer or is it just the result of lots of experimentation? I couldn't quite tell from your post.

Shaw,
To be honest lots of experimentation was our first route to get us here. I'm a working DP in the Seattle area and there were plenty of shoots to experiment on. The two demos that are on our website show the flexibility of the adapter best. The first one was shot mostly with a 20mm and a 50mm. The second non-profit piece was shot with a 50mm and an 85mm. None of these lenses cost more than $150. Actually the 20mm Sigma was $400. I actually like the look of the 50/85 for the interview stuff though. The biggest thing for me is that the G35 holds its contrast even in low light situations. As with all adapters you are going to loose 1.5-2 stops of light. We are working on some coating for our GG to help with that. I have gotten to the point where I don't interview people (on DV) without it. Our ground glass has evolved from Gorilla to Man in about 6 months. As a result our optics were constantly changing to adapt. Now that the adapter is as far as we can take it, we are seeking guidance from an optical engineer. Does that answer the question? As a shooter I am VERY picky. So it's not ready till its ready. :thumbsup:

Jonathan-

[Nick Adams]

well I like your footage and look foreward to seeing this a sellable product.... good luck, I hope to see it available soon as I'm shooting probably my highest budgeted short this summer and really want it to have that kind of DOF.....

[Policar]

Just one question regarding the GG:

How much static grain is visible since the GG doesn't rotate and how much resolution loss does this cause?

Or...do you use wax coated class or something cool like that?

[JHouser]

keep your eyes open. We will be updating as we progress.

jonathan-

[Jim Brennan]

What camera(s) did you use for your footage, and what (if anything) did you do in post?

[Barry_Green]

I've been on their beta list, and am anxiously awaiting a chance to try it out. However, I've got to say I agree with Jonathan's approach -- don't tout vaporware for years, Trinity "Play"-style... just pop up with a ready-to-release product that we can test and try now. I can't comment on the quality of H&H's work yet, as I haven't received a beta unit, but so far I like how they're thinking.

Also, with them being a static product, and redrock offering a spinning product, the two products aren't really in exact competition with each other, so I'm looking forward to testing both.

[Jim Brennan]

FWIW, I'm glad your testing it Barry. It's always good to have a recommendation from a trusted source.

[JHouser]

What camera(s) did you use for your footage, and what (if anything) did you do in post?

Good questions. Both shoots were used with the same DVX100a. Some footage from the short was shot at 1/6th of a second some 1/24th and some 1/48th. The lenses used on the short were 20mm Sigma (the most expensive lens) an old 50mm Nikor and a REALLY old 85mm Nikor with really nice coatings. The same lenses were used on the non-profit promo. As for the interview segments the wide shots were the 50mm and the tight was the 85mm. There was nothing done to the footage in post with exception to the 180 degree flip. Hope this answers any questions.

Barry, We are excited to hear what you along with Noah Kadner have to say about our units. Doug is fine tuning them and adding some elements, which will help to keep the GG clean. We will keep you posted.

Jonathan--

[Shaw]

Did you have the DVXs in 60i mode? I could swear it looked like 60i.

[roentgen]

seems Barry gets all the fun around here.... :cry:

[J.R. Hudson]

A Grand? Kind of takes the "Guer" out of Guerilla.

[JHouser]

Did you have the DVXs in 60i mode? I could swear it looked like 60i.

That was probably the combination of web encoding and 1/24th of a second shutter speed on some of the shots. All the footage was shot in 24PA mode.

Jonathan-

[JHouser]

A Grand? Kind of takes the "Guer" out of Guerilla.

There will be plenty of "Guer" left in it. :thumbsup: We want to make sure that the quality of our product is in no way compromised. I'm sure there will be other adapters cheaper than ours. Our goal is to be small durable and flexible, while maintaining a quality feel.

Jonathan-

[MattC]

I don't know at a grand it would still be 1/10 the cost of the mini35, no? That doesn't seem obscene to me. $1,500 for a mattebox - that's obscene....

[MattC]

Are you going to have one for the XL2. If so and you need a beta tester, uh... I happen to know a guy....

[LloydC]

that is incredible!I'm really looking forward to hearing some reviews from customers

[JHouser]

Are you going to have one for the XL2. If so and you need a beta tester, uh... I happen to know a guy....

Matt,
We are currently not testing on the XL2 as our sole focus has been on the DVX100. We want to make sure that we have a product that can stand up to the rigors of shooting before we start spreading our development too thin. We know that the adapter works flawlessly with the PD-150/170/VX2k cams as well. Our intent is to develop mounts that will work with the entire current heavy hitting cameras. Including Panasonics new cameras to be announced at NAB. However, currently we are only working on an adapter that works with the DVX100A and uses Nikon F mount lenses. I say DVX100A because the older DVX100 has not been tested yet. We are not sure if the close focus of the older DVX will work with the current optical path. Things our beta testers will let us know.

Jonathan-

[Daniel Skubal]

Would you consider taking a picture of it? I'm curious how small it actually is

[JHouser]

Would you consider taking a picture of it? I'm curious how small it actually is

Yes, we are going to be uploading photos by the end of the week. These will be of the prototype or beta units. We will have a 3D rendering soon. Dimensions of the unit are 2" in diameter by about 3.25" long. These are just off of the top of my head. Doug has all of the adapter at the shop. It's small.

jonathan-

[amoildani]

wow, i really thought that was 60i, i was saying to myself "i hope they get some 24p shots up!"

[reservoir]

Well there we have it. Sounds like it will indeed be legit. I guess redrock has some real competition now for the supreme 35mm DOF solution (under $1000). I still think redrock has the advantage so far not only in price, but dvx user loyalty also. Can't wait to see them both finished, reviewed, and for sale!! ~reservoir~

[Daniel Skubal]

yeah, Barry, promise you'll do a side-by-side comparison of both products... and maybe even both of those two the mini35

[marctronixx]

just smoked over the PSA piece and the DOF is incredible! i notice the softness at the corners, but i read under the clip that you have fixed this.. i thought you were going for that look we have seen so much in commercials...

anyway, i applaud you on your work again. the small DOF wa present when the children were riding around. i dont know if you were trying to keep them out of focus on purpose but it was still slick to know this footage came from a camcorder!! very nice indeed....

[bgundu]

Looks promising. I know this is footage from a prototype but I am conserned about the severe distortion at the corners. For some stylized shots, yeah, it can look cool but foe the most part you need clean optics. Personally I would have waited for better looking demo footage. Is it just me, but alot of the footage was way overexposed?

[BajotierraTV]

The footage looked clean, took characteristics of the 35mm lenses, very narrow DOF and the adapter doesn't seem to loose much resolution at all, but it definately looked like 60i to me. I didn't think it was 24P either, it just didn't have that look. Do you guys agree? Overall I thought it looked good though.

[JHouser]

Looks promising. I know this is footage from a prototype but I am conserned about the severe distortion at the corners. For some stylized shots, yeah, it can look cool but foe the most part you need clean optics. Personally I would have waited for better looking demo footage. Is it just me, but alot of the footage was way overexposed?

Thank you for your input. We agree :) wholeheartedly. The edge-to-edge issue grossly apparent in the 20mm wide stuff has been fixed. It was caused by an over spacing of our condenser lenses. You will notice some shots have it in a big way and some don't have it at all. The Demo footage will change. We aren’t too worried about that. As Doug and I are able to spend more and more time on the project we will have more time to shoot demos. The reason those two were picked was because they are two actual projects shot with the adapter. Not just test footage. Real world run and gun. Plus they are two VERY different projects. Under relatively uncontrollable light. It's not you, there are a few over exposed shots :)

Thanks again everyone for your input. After all, this product is something that YOU will be using.

Jonathan-

[Shaw]

What was your detail set at? The images seem contrasty but softer than usual with the actual mini35.

[Digigenic]

Okay, I just wanted to identify and confirm the different DV to 35 offerings.
1. Mini35
2. Movie Tube
3. Micro 35
4. G35
Are there any others I'm missing?

[bgundu]

Okay, I just wanted to identify and confirm the different DV to 35 offerings.
1. Mini35
2. Movie Tube
3. Micro 35
4. G35
Are there any others I'm missing?

Here's a stupid question. Why are these devices refered to as "35"?

[scharky]

Becasue they allow you to attatch 35mm lenses to them, either being motion picture lenses or still lenses. Usually it will be still lenses to keep the costs down, but if your using the Movie Tube or mini 35, obviously cost isn't a problem.

[bgundu]

Cool. that's what I thought.

[Daniel Skubal]

Don't forget the agus35 and aldu35, which were complete DIY systems and didn't cost anything for plans... and hardly anything to make (granted, the image quality of that product was not as good as the others... it was still a step forward.)

[Jaime Valles]

Very exciting, indeed! I can't wait to hear what the beta-testers have to say, and I think $999 is a good balance between quality and affordability, provided that the image looks great.

[DHooter]

I've put up a new video of the G35 in action.

There are several shots to help evaluate the G35:

Quick and slow pans - to evaulate grain, edge to edge sharpness, vignetting, and "hotspots".
Straight lines - to evaulate barrel distortion
Color (esp. the color red and white in direct sunlight) - to evaultate chromatic aberattion, contrast, color bleeding etc.
Wide shots - to evaulate resolution loss
Extreme close-ups - to evaulate sharpness/detail
Varying distances between foreground/subject/background - to evaulate the bokeh and asthetic of the G35.

Sorry, the files are not set up to stream. Please save to your hard disk and run from there.

G35 Demo3 (http://www.weaponsgrade-entertainment.com/G35/G353.WMV) - Windows Media version approx 14MB.

G35 Demo3 (http://www.weaponsgrade-entertainment.com/G35/G353.MOV) - Apple Quicktime version approx 42MB.

G35 Demo3 (http://www.weaponsgrade-entertainment.com/G35/G353.MPG) - MPEG2 version approx 92MB.

If anyone can recommend good compression settings for creating Quicktime files from Vegas Video I would appreciate the info.

The MPEG2 version can be burned to a DVD for viewing on a TV.

No color correction/grain surgery/other post processing performed. I did flip the video using Vegas pan/crop tool.


I'll be more than happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Thank you,

Doug

[Policar]

Solid. But....the footage is very soft. Care to shoot a resolution chart?

Otherwise, I'm impressed. Although something still seems a bit odd but I think it's just the lack of CC.

[amoildani]

i noti ced a lot of motion blur even when you slowly panned across someones face. I dont assume thats the 24 fps as when I shoot it doesnt blur as much.

But its a little soft, other than that, it looks pretty good

[Shadow]

Wow, now we will have the choice between 35 adapter systems, interesting. Can't wait to use all my Nikon lenses with the DVX100A. Let's wait for a full review by Barry G.

[Jaime Valles]

It looks great! I'm very impressed. No distortion on the edges or visible hotspots.

As long as it's reasonably priced, they should have a winner there. Very cool.

[bgundu]

There is something strange going on with your footage. What shutter speed were these captures on? Also, did you shoot with 24PA? If so, you may have captured it incorrectly. There seems to be strange interlacing in your footage. Here are some grabs:

First grab is from the MOV quicktime file. In the areas of high motion, you can notice half images in front and behind the guys head coming down the stairs.

http://homepage.mac.com/bgundu/.Pictures/other/G353_mov.jpg


Screen grab 2 is from the MPG file. Same problem but you can see the interlacing in the same area.

http://homepage.mac.com/bgundu/.Pictures/other/G35_mpg.jpg


Other than that this seems very promising!

[Daniel Skubal]

Did anyone else think the dof looked funny? it seemed really cloudy... like overly blurred. It's probably the lens, but it just looked odd to me.

[Barry_Green]

Let's wait for a full review by Barry G.
My beta-test unit arrives Thursday. However, I'm under NDA, so I can't post anything directly. I can give the G35 guys a review, and if they want to post it they can, but I won't be able to say anything until it's publicly disclosed by someone other than me (or until they release me from the NDA obligations, I guess).

[LloydC]

the wmv files look fine with no interlacing

thought it was very nice! although I do agree with everyone above, it does look a little blurry

however, if the price range is reasonable, I'd definately buy one (cheaper than the micro35 in other words :) )

[dmitriandsnow]

I am very interested. Very glad rails are not required, although i am hoping to get some in case of a mattebox. It also seemed to me the footage was acting strange during pans as if it was almost interlaced? Can you give an approximate date on when you start selling?

[marctronixx]

i think this device will cost more than the projected price for the micro...

[Mr. Blonde]

Okay so wer'e talkin a G for the adapter....how much does some good 35mm glass cost?

[reservoir]

Well there we have it. Sounds like it will indeed be legit. I guess redrock has some real competition now for the supreme 35mm DOF solution (under $1000). I still think redrock has the advantage so far not only in price, but dvx user loyalty also. Can't wait to see them both finished, reviewed, and for sale!! ~reservoir~

Just wanted to update this comment I made. It appears the G35 is *the product to have* now based on what we are seeing.


I still think redrock has the advantage so far not only in price, but dvx user loyalty also.

Did I say that? Looks like the tides are-a-changin'!! With so many pissed off people in the Micro35 Camp, looks like G35 is doing things right!! Not making promises until it's done. To quote Jonathan:


"It'll be ready when it's ready"

At least nobody will get there hopes up too high then get mad when the product doesn't ship ontime, as the case has been with the Micro35. It will ship when it's good and ready.

~reservoir~

[reservoir]

Okay so wer'e talkin a G for the adapter....how much does some good 35mm glass cost?

ALOT!!

Actually I've heard you can get *decent* lenses for around 200-400 dollars.

~reservoir~

[hienben]

Here it is!

http://www.guerilla35.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=9

[reservoir]

Don't forget these:

http://www.guerilla35.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8

I'll admit, the Micro35 looks much more *pleasing* to the eyes. Will there be a way to use a mattebox or follow focus with this thing? It doesn't look like it!!

~reservoir~

[reservoir]

Okay, I just wanted to identify and confirm the different DV to 35 offerings.
1. Mini35
2. Movie Tube
3. Micro 35
4. G35
Are there any others I'm missing?

The MovieTube website *STILL* says "coming soon." Sounds like more vaporware from that camp as well. Has anyone heard anything else about this product?

It is my personal opinion, but movietube looks like a big bulky hunk of junk!! Why would anyone want to use something so ugly, big, bulky, uncomfortable, and cumbersome when there are other smaller solutions like micro35, mini35, and G35?

~reservoir~

[steadicamsteel]

Are you considering bring out a PL Mount as well as the Nikon Mount?

[BLUESPIDER]

I anit gonna say sh*t till I hear something from Barry. Right now its just all talk.....



But the footage does look pretty dam good. Wait, i just contradicted myself.

[Mr. Blonde]

Noob question folks...wondering would the Nikon D70's 18-70mm dx lens work with this setup. It is an F-mount afterall. Also, does anyone know if it the Nikon glass is an improvement over the dvx's ?

[JHouser]

Noob question folks...wondering would the Nikon D70's 18-70mm dx lens work with this setup. It is an F-mount afterall. Also, does anyone know if it the Nikon glass is an improvement over the dvx's ?

Quick reply as am in the road right now. Yes, any nikon f mount lens will work with the adapter. The faster the better though. Faster than 2.8 is recommended.

I'm in Ashville for the next few days with the G35. I will be heading up to NY to do some more work stuff. If anyone has any urgent needs please post in a forum here our ours as I am unable to get to my e-mail right now. Doug or I will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks for the comments. I havn't have the chance to look at the footage Doug posted. I will answer any questions or concerns you may have when I have the chance. Thanks again!

Jonathan-

[Dann]

I'm in Toronto and it would be worth my while to come down to meet you - Seattle is TOO far for me right now...

thanks...

pls. reply here or DannySabre@netscape.net

thanks!

P.S. Doug will tell you about our correspondence re: G35 for t.v. series here in Toronto....

[dstone]

I guess the obvious question is whether the G35 will work with the new HVX200. In other words, I'm thinking of buying the G35 for my DVX100A. Will I be able to use the G35 if I upgrade to the HVX200 next year. I wonder Barry if you could look into this while beta testing. If Jonathan and Doug give you the OK, maybe you could include a comment or two about this if you write an article.

[marctronixx]

by next year when your ready to buy this cam their maybe other adapters out there...

[Barry_Green]

Jonathan cleared me to say a couple of things, so yes, I can confirm that I do indeed have a G35 prototype. And while my initial testing has been limited, I can say that it has delivered some impressive footage -- I didn't think a static ground glass solution could look this good, I was expecting perma-grain. There's still much testing to be done and feedback to be given.

[Bryan]

That demo footage looks absolutely amazing! Wow.

[marctronixx]

i agree their demos have looked good.

but im from the school of rotating GG and having shot many shorts and a few feature projects (independent) with the P + S adapter i am totally hooked on the rotating gg scheme. this is why i am very anxious to beta test their static design to see first hand instead of the artifacts and compression that has probably colored their footage somewhat here on the internet.

i have grown to trust barrys word in the short time that i have been on this forum so i look forward to hearing from him.

[Shadow]

First impression by Barry "impressive footage"; this is a very promising G35 begenning. :happy:

[JHouser]

i agree their demos have looked good.

but im from the school of rotating GG and having shot many shorts and a few feature projects (independent) with the P + S adapter i am totally hooked on the rotating gg scheme. this is why i am very anxious to beta test their static design to see first hand instead of the artifacts and compression that has probably colored their footage somewhat here on the internet.

i have grown to trust barrys word in the short time that i have been on this forum so i look forward to hearing from him.

I shot some footage in the hills of NC last week. I will post it as soon as a get back to Seattle. (Monday or Tuesday) It looks really good if I don't say so myself :). I can understand why one would be hooked on the moving GG idea. However, if you start out with no grain, you get way more light. You have to remember with the P + S system, the grain is still there eating your light, it just is getting smeared around. Barry has been VERY helpful with his suggestions. I have already started drafting plans for an adapter that will allow you to swap out lens mounts as well as camera mounts. We also have been moving toward a sleek mobile rail system. I will me meeting with our designers as soon as I get back into town and hopefully will have some sketches for the website in a few weeks. Keep your eyes out. Thanks!

Jonathan-

[Maheel]

Could you put some uncompressed stills Pl.

If you could send me about 1 minute of video with the G35 I will transfer that to 35 mm free of charge.

[Dann]

Wow, thanks for the updates... Jon, that sounds great about new footage... I'm glad I checked in here coz the updates sometimes at www.guerilla35.com are few and far between at times...

Barry's endorsement is great - but I'm now wondering about timelines? I'm pumped to get a system ASAP and yet it seems you guys are still tweaking/refining the design? The April 15 date on your site I take it no longer applies?

Are the sorts of changes you'll be making likely to cause big long delay to production models being released?

When do you guys anticipate final release?

A few weeks? Months? After the summer?

Or perhaps it's in part a never-ending work in progress - you'll keep improving and offer systems out to the public as you guys develop them?

Barry - I own "original" DVX (ie. non-A) - do you anticipate for any reason why G35 would NOT work out for me???

Thanks - and pls. forgive the pestering - but we're EAGER!

Barry - what else are you allowed to say to us right now? G35 aside, what is your opinion on potential of 35mm adapters for use with HVX? Would high resolution cancel out advantages gained due to "seeing every wart?" I know it's tough to answer for sure without production HVX being avail. Just wanted to know if you thought the feasibility of these 35mm adapters would be confined to SD...? Although I know some technik stuff with FX1/Z1 seems to look pretty good...

thanks!

[JHouser]

Could you put some uncompressed stills Pl.

If you could send me about 1 minute of video with the G35 I will transfer that to 35 mm free of charge.

You bet, I will take you up on that. I will post some stills and also some MPEG2 footage. I'm happy to by on my vacation, however i could have not come at a worse time for the G35. I can say that is is our #1 priority to get this adapter on the market within the next 2 months. Thanks!

Jonathan-

[Maheel]

Jonathan,

For film transfer it has to be in an uncompressed format. eg. Uncompressed avi or uncompressed tga sequence. Otherwise the purpose would be lost.

[Barry_Green]

Barry's endorsement is great
Well, hold on a minute. I certainly haven't endorsed the product! Nor have I not endorsed it. A formal endorsement and a full-fledged review are a long way off. All I said is that I've been quite impressed with the footage I've gotten from it. But until the product is finalized, pricing is set, etc., I can't say that I would definitely be endorsing it. And that doesn't mean I don't like it or that I wouldn't endorse it -- I'm saying that we need all questions answered before we can make that determination. If it's $15,000, I would not endorse it. I think Jonathan's got a promising product here, but I wouldn't go on record as saying "buy it" or "don't buy it" until a finished sample is available.


Barry - I own "original" DVX (ie. non-A) - do you anticipate for any reason why G35 would NOT work out for me???
I'm using an original DVX with it. But until the design is finalized, there's no way to answer your question. There's no way for me to predict what the G35 designers may change, and how those changes may affect the original DVX.

I know I sound overly cautious, but that's because I am. I like what the G35 guys are trying to do. But there's a reason we call this "beta" testing, and no recommendations (one way or the other) are going to be made until a final unit is in my hands, with final pricing established, etc.


G35 aside, what is your opinion on potential of 35mm adapters for use with HVX? Would high resolution cancel out advantages gained due to "seeing every wart?" I know it's tough to answer for sure without production HVX being avail. Just wanted to know if you thought the feasibility of these 35mm adapters would be confined to SD...? Although I know some technik stuff with FX1/Z1 seems to look pretty good...
I've used the Pro35 on the CineAlta, it works well. It also costs 3x what the mini35 does, so I'm sure there are refinements in it to make it work well with high-def resolution.

The mini35 apparently already has an adapter/connector kit/relay for the JVC HD100. Haven't seen footage from that yet. I'm sure these types of products will be produced, but I don't know what engineering obstacles they may face in order to still provide high-def resolution.

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[Glenn_Gipson]

I wanna love this product...but is it me, or does the demo footage look horrible? The corners of the images seem to be ALWAYS out of focus, and all the images seem to have a barreling effect to them. The colors also seem to be funky (color fringe?) I hope I'm wrong, cause I would like to buy this product if it does what it says it's suppose to do. Please let me be wrong.

[JHouser]

I wanna love this product...but is it me, or does the demo footage look horrible? The corners of the images seem to be ALWAYS out of focus, and all the images seem to have a barreling effect to them. The colors also seem to be funky (color fringe?) I hope I'm wrong, cause I would like to buy this product if it does what it says it's suppose to do. Please let me be wrong.

Glen,
I agree with you, the footage we have up on our site is definitely no where near what the G35 is capable now. We have been constantly upgrading the optical path to find a balance of size and optical perfection. We feel that the newest version. (3.0) will please even the most discriminating Mini35 users. I'm sitting on 2 tapes of some of the best looking DV footage that I have ever shot. Unfortunately I'm in NY not in Seattle. Keep your eye out, by Wednesday of next week I will have uploaded some new footage. Thanks for your critique.

Jonathan-

[Glenn_Gipson]

Thanks for your reply Jonathan, I look forward to the final version. This is a MUCH needed product for us digital filmmakers.

[Glenn_Gipson]

By the way, the new demo stuff looks awesome, I was only referring to the footage that is directly on your site.