View Full Version : Seattle Tests Pt.2
Clyde G
01-25-2011, 12:47 PM
http://vimeo.com/19179136
more fun times in WA
Kept DRS 1 on and went in the other direction with the sharpness!
Shooter
01-25-2011, 01:12 PM
I will come back to it...I couldnt get it to playout of Vimeo.
I like the sharpness. IMO, it looks BETTER than the dull stuff.
mcgeedigital
01-25-2011, 01:34 PM
I agree, the sharpness looks great in this case.
Shooter
01-25-2011, 02:09 PM
I liked it and I thought your settings suited the light conditions you were shooting under.
Clyde G
01-25-2011, 02:42 PM
Thanks for checking it out.
Some footage I'd seen at -7 looked a little soft so I decided to go up to experiment. Not sure if it applies to the AF100, but using a cinegamma with the HVX lowered your sharpness a little.
Mark Kokkoros
01-27-2011, 06:16 PM
This is beautiful. Tack sharp. Will make note of these settings. Thanks for the post. -m
JT_Productions
01-27-2011, 06:52 PM
Cool! The slow-motion emulated that of film! What shutter speeds were you using?
the problem with using sharpness above -4 is that you will get edge enhancement. Anytime you have the chance, look at your borders on high contrast areas, they have a black band around them. I will post stills if you would like, and yes, it's pixel peeping. But it's quite yucky.
Clyde G
01-28-2011, 12:09 AM
Mark, thanks. Going to quieter matrix while turning up DRS seems to give the camera an interesting look. I'd love to see a formal test with charts featuring DRS vs adjusting luma curve in post
JT, I didn't touch the shutter on this shoot so I assume the shutter defaulted to 1/120 in 60p overcrank.
PaPa, yeah I don't like edge enhancement, but I also don't like soft images, so there just is a trade-off everyone will need to make. My gripe with the sharpness down too far is it doesn't look like a properly resolved 1080p image. How far is too far in either direction? I haven't really figured out for myself. Perhaps you are right at -4 being the best of both worlds.
I actually would encourage pixel peeping. I would like to see what people are finding offensive with the sharpness up. The less compressed mov is available for download on the vimeo page. I have seen some weird things with bokeh, specifically point light sources. Wasn't 100% sure it was attributed to the detail setting, but now that you mention it, it sounds about right. So where I have point light bokeh is a situation I might turn the detail down.
Mark, thanks. Going to quieter matrix while turning up DRS seems to give the camera an interesting look. I'd love to see a formal test with charts featuring DRS vs adjusting luma curve in post
JT, I didn't touch the shutter on this shoot so I assume the shutter defaulted to 1/120 in 60p overcrank.
PaPa, yeah I don't like edge enhancement, but I also don't like soft images, so there just is a trade-off everyone will need to make. My gripe with the sharpness down too far is it doesn't look like a properly resolved 1080p image. How far is too far in either direction? I haven't really figured out for myself. Perhaps you are right at -4 being the best of both worlds.
I actually would encourage pixel peeping. I would like to see what people are finding offensive with the sharpness up. The less compressed mov is available for download on the vimeo page. I have seen some weird things with bokeh, specifically point light sources. Wasn't 100% sure it was attributed to the detail setting, but now that you mention it, it sounds about right. So where I have point light bokeh is a situation I might turn the detail down.
The better tradeoff is to bring sharpness down in camera and then add it in post. I would be more than happy to illustrate the difference in comparison shots so we can all pixel peep to see in the end what's better.
Looks like i will be sticking with -5 :D