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OPHERBA
11-15-2010, 08:40 AM
Not sure if that was posted before.

Here is another clip posted by Vicenç Asensio who was also invited by Panasonic to Japan.
http://vimeo.com/16819508


Thank you.

Johnnie

PaPa
11-15-2010, 09:06 AM
very cool. Unfortunately it looks like his camera has a dead pixel in the top right corner :(

That, or dust that didn't move even with lens changes.

Barry_Green
11-15-2010, 09:35 AM
Yes, his camera had a dead pixel, and so did mine. And Panasonic engineers took great embarrassment at that and assured us that it was only possible on the prototypes and would never appear in a finished model and would be immediately repaired if a consumer developed such a dead pixel.

dcloud
11-15-2010, 09:38 AM
like the footages here. color is not too saturated for me. just about right :D

Coco Bermudez
11-15-2010, 09:41 AM
Yes, his camera had a dead pixel, and so did mine. And Panasonic engineers took great embarrassment at that and assured us that it was only possible on the prototypes and would never appear in a finished model and would be immediately repaired if a consumer developed such a dead pixel.

In the eventuality that the camera had or developed a dead pixel, do you know if the AF-100 has a function like the JVC HD110U Dead Pixel Compensation where you could mask or kill the dead pixel. I believed that used to be a function of my old JVC camera.

dustylense
11-15-2010, 09:41 AM
Barry, that assured promise is ridiculous by panasonic. Every dslr that I've shot with gets dead pixels. Nothing will change with the af-100. Many cameras will ship with the dead pixel, just as the Dslr's have. It just the nature of these sensors.
It looks like everybody had a dead pixel while testing the af-100.
Let me ask this though. Is there a cleaning mode on the af-100? I've seen nothing in regards to a sensor cleaning mode.

But don't worry, I'm still gonna buy one.

Also, Thanks Barry for all your input lately on this camera. You rock!

Jan_Crittenden
11-15-2010, 09:44 AM
Looks like a dead pixel, but then again it is a prototype. But I thought he did a nice job of controlling the highlights.

Best,

Jan

dustylense
11-15-2010, 10:06 AM
Jan,
Maybe you can answer the question to if the Af100 has any sensor cleaning mode?

dcloud
11-15-2010, 10:21 AM
i think theres none since the sensor is completely covered

swanny
11-15-2010, 10:27 AM
What causes dead pixels on DSLR's and large sensor cameras?

Barry_Green
11-15-2010, 10:38 AM
In the eventuality that the camera had or developed a dead pixel, do you know if the AF-100 has a function like the JVC HD110U Dead Pixel Compensation where you could mask or kill the dead pixel. I believed that used to be a function of my old JVC camera.
I asked them if there was in-camera pixel-masking and they said no, it'd have to go to service.

Barry_Green
11-15-2010, 10:42 AM
Barry, that assured promise is ridiculous by panasonic. Every dslr that I've shot with gets dead pixels. Nothing will change with the af-100.
AF100 is coming from the broadcast division of Panasonic. It's not a consumer DSLR. Dead pixels are not in their specifications, and they don't consider them acceptable, from what I understand. Of course, the final word on that will be whatever their service center says, but I was told that the units that had dead pixels were considered to not be in specification, and they apologized for it.


It looks like everybody had a dead pixel while testing the af-100.
There were two out of the six that had it.


Let me ask this though. Is there a cleaning mode on the af-100? I've seen nothing in regards to a sensor cleaning mode.
There is no sensor cleaning mode, nor is there need for one. The sensor is in a sealed environment. There is no way for dust to get at it. It is assembled in a "clean room" where the specifications call for something like one grain of dust per cubic foot or something ridiculous like that. They took us on a tour of the factory and showed us how it's done. The sensor is sealed behind some protective glass, which is then further sealed off by the presence of the ND filters. There is no need to ever clean the sensor.

If you get dust on your ND filters, then you'd clean them in the normal way (a puff of air and a silky smooth brush).

dustylense
11-15-2010, 10:44 AM
What causes dead pixels on DSLR's and large sensor cameras?
For one, the cameras have interchangeable lenses, thus being prone to dust. Then there is the imager size itself, being prone to dust on a large surface.
I had a dead pixel and showed up in high ISO's on my 5dmk2. After lots of searching how to get it unstuck, a theory came about that a very small speck of dust with a positive ion charge might be causing the dead pixel, where the auto clean just couldn't shake it loose. I did a wet cleaning of the sensor and guess what? It vanished and has not come back since. Sure I get the normal dust spots, but nothing that causes that dreaded dead pixel.

So my question to Jan or Barry is, what prevents dust from getting on the af100's sensor, and if dust in fact gets to the sensor, what means is there for removing that dust?

Barry_Green
11-15-2010, 10:45 AM
See prior message. It is in a sealed system and cannot possibly get dusty.

dustylense
11-15-2010, 10:47 AM
thanks for the answer barry, I posted before your updated what I was looking for.

hjrt
11-15-2010, 10:56 AM
Also, with milions of pixels there's always a chance that there is a pixel that doesn't work. It would only depend on the quality control of Panasonic how many that would be. Repairing the dead pixel would probably mean that the pixel takes the information from the pixels near it.

Kellar42
11-15-2010, 10:58 AM
I thought this looked really good. To be frank I didn't even notice the dead pixel but it sounds like something of they are on top of.

Loved a few of the shots, like at :36. Highlights, seemed great, lots of uber-sharp shots...this is inline with expectations!

john deaver
11-15-2010, 11:13 AM
These pre-production units are assembled by hand in many cases are they not?

I would think that regardless of how good the engineer is that the process of putting one together this way would drive most of us to the breaking point. I remember taking a non-functioning Sony VX-2000 apart for the benefit of my students (video production class) and i was astounded at the number of very very tiny components. I would think that this would have a impact on the build quality of the Pre-Production models that would be a non issue in the production model

Barry_Green
11-15-2010, 11:31 AM
These pre-production units are assembled by hand in many cases are they not?
These all were, yes.


I would think that regardless of how good the engineer is that the process of putting one together this way would drive most of us to the breaking point. I remember taking a non-functioning Sony VX-2000 apart for the benefit of my students (video production class) and i was astounded at the number of very very tiny components. I would think that this would have a impact on the build quality of the Pre-Production models that would be a non issue in the production model
Agreed.

Coco Bermudez
11-15-2010, 01:34 PM
I asked them if there was in-camera pixel-masking and they said no, it'd have to go to service.

well..not a biggie if one would appear. My experience with Panasonic has been awesome. I've had a couple of issues with my DVX-100 and a DVC-80 (I loved that little cam) and Panasonic took care of it in a jiffy.
Can't say enough good things about the service.

Stu Siegal
11-15-2010, 01:54 PM
+1 to that, no other vendor touches it.