David Jimerson
03-31-2004, 12:12 PM
Kandinsky wrote:
Jubal28, i don't think that two young lovers having plans for their future is all about misery. In the beggining everybody's plans are the kind of plans we all have at this state in our lives. Burstyn wants to get thinner because she's gowing old. She has a great circle of friends even though she feels alone (which is almost the case with every old people in north america right now). The young ones are planning to build a very promising future, full of hope. The only thing that leads to their "misery" as you say is addiction to whatever comes in handy to fill the common emptiness (or lack) of their existence. This is the only mistake they are all making that will eventually lead to misery. I don't mean to be harsh but the form of this film is so much more complex than what you seem to see in it, please watch it again.
Its a crescendo that is LEADING to a paroxysm of misery. Everything has to do with the idea of a "requiem". The whole structure of the film is based on that, with the names of the seasons dividing the story like vivaldi did in his four seasons. If you pay attention, you can even hear musicians getting ready to play in the first scene before everything starts.
Please don't reduce such a beautiful american piece of art with such a sad and simple point of view. With drugs theres no happy endings anyway.
Dude, pay attention to the words I use -- I chose them for a reason because they *mean* things. *I said that Requiem *depicts* misery from beginning to end, which it most certainly does . . . unless I missed the happy and beautiful side of drug addiction, crime against family, general crime, prostitution, electroshock therapy, gangrenous infection, amputation, incarceration, self-imposed suffering and descent into even deeper levels of misery . . .
I didn't say *anything* about the movie's *form*, as much as you're desperate to regale the world with your deep insights into art and film appreciation.
And besides, even if I did, we live on a continent blessed with a free society. *People have differing opinions. *Deal with it.
;D ;D ;D
Jubal28, i don't think that two young lovers having plans for their future is all about misery. In the beggining everybody's plans are the kind of plans we all have at this state in our lives. Burstyn wants to get thinner because she's gowing old. She has a great circle of friends even though she feels alone (which is almost the case with every old people in north america right now). The young ones are planning to build a very promising future, full of hope. The only thing that leads to their "misery" as you say is addiction to whatever comes in handy to fill the common emptiness (or lack) of their existence. This is the only mistake they are all making that will eventually lead to misery. I don't mean to be harsh but the form of this film is so much more complex than what you seem to see in it, please watch it again.
Its a crescendo that is LEADING to a paroxysm of misery. Everything has to do with the idea of a "requiem". The whole structure of the film is based on that, with the names of the seasons dividing the story like vivaldi did in his four seasons. If you pay attention, you can even hear musicians getting ready to play in the first scene before everything starts.
Please don't reduce such a beautiful american piece of art with such a sad and simple point of view. With drugs theres no happy endings anyway.
Dude, pay attention to the words I use -- I chose them for a reason because they *mean* things. *I said that Requiem *depicts* misery from beginning to end, which it most certainly does . . . unless I missed the happy and beautiful side of drug addiction, crime against family, general crime, prostitution, electroshock therapy, gangrenous infection, amputation, incarceration, self-imposed suffering and descent into even deeper levels of misery . . .
I didn't say *anything* about the movie's *form*, as much as you're desperate to regale the world with your deep insights into art and film appreciation.
And besides, even if I did, we live on a continent blessed with a free society. *People have differing opinions. *Deal with it.
;D ;D ;D