good all round editing software?

[Guest]

what would anyone recomend that I get as a good all round editing suit?

[Barry_S]

On this board, Sony Vegas rules the PC side and Final Cut Pro dominates the Mac world. However, there are other good choices like Premiere and Avid Xpress. I suggest you download some of the trial versions and see what works for you. Personally, I like Vegas because it doesn't need a super PC to run smoothly and preview effects, it's very stable, and the audio features are superior to just about any other NLE.

[BLUESPIDER]

Adam_ward_101,

for $500 bucks you can get the adobe production bundle thats if your a student. It comes bundle with Encore,Auditon,Premiere pro, after effects. You can do just about everythiing with this bundle. Check the adobe website out.

peace playa

[TC]

It comes with Photoshop too. ::)

[kmcgrath]

Can anyone suggest NLE software for a PC which can be used to produce 24P DVD's? I know Vegas will do this, but are there others for PC' also available?

[BLUESPIDER]

Can anyone suggest NLE software for a PC which can be used to produce 24P DVD's? I know Vegas will do this, but are there others for PC' also available?

Adobe Pro 1.5 can produce true 24p editing. I'm not quite sure on the 24p dvd out thing. I've never actually thought about that.

[kmcgrath]

Are you saying that I could use my DVX in 24P advance mode, edit with Adobe 1.5, then produce a dvd in native 24P? I hope this question makes sense, I am new to this stuff.

[Neil Rowe]

..yes you can make a 24p DVD from the ppro1.5 workflow...granted you would have to have a progressive dvd player and a progressive screen like an hdtv or computer monitor to view it in real 24p.. otherwise the dvd player would automatically telecine it for you to 29.976, but you still save space on the disc for more content

[kmcgrath]

I don't have a progressive dvd or screen, just standart NTSC tv. So if I edit using Adobe 1.5 from 24P advance mode, then burn a dvd, is the dvd content is native 24P, and is then converted by the dvd player to NTSC during playback? If above is correct, will I still get the "film look" that 24P gives? Thanks much!

[Neil Rowe]

correct. the dvd player would be set up for either progressive or interlaced output.. if its a 24p dvd(like almost all hollywood DVDs) and its set up to play interlaced. it will automatically do the conversion to ntsc (telecine) using a 3:2 cadance. just like it automatically letterboxes 16:9 content DVDs for playback on 4:3 tvs. so yesa ou would still ge the film like motion. the "film look" is going to depend on whether or not your film looks liek film to begin with and has more to do with lihting and framing and composition as well as aspect ratio and other aspects of filmmaking. ;)

[kmcgrath]

OK, thanks. I am currently new to video, and do editing using Pinnacle Edition v 9.3. I just purchased the DVX dvd/book combo that I saw advertised on this site, and am eager to learn more. Any suggestions for a good magazine subscription for someone at my level?

[David Jimerson]

I think you're using Pinnacle Studio 9.3, not Edition. Edition just had its Version 6 released.

Pinnacle (either one) is not a great choice for use with the DVX, simply because you can't edit in 24p. You seem interested in making 24p DVDs, so that should be a factor for you.

[kmcgrath]

That's right, it is Studio 9.3, not Edition. My original question was about which software I should use to edit 24P, and from the answers so far, it sounds like my (only?) choice is Adobe Premier Pro 1.5. I have used the Studio for editing 60i, and seems to work fine so far.

[dvpixl]

just suggesting but im a fpc user. here's another choice for pc users. http://www.canopus.com/US/products/EDIUS2.5/pm_EDIUS2.5.asp

[David Jimerson]

That's right, it is Studio 9.3, not Edition. *My original question was about which software I should use to edit 24P, and from the answers so far, it sounds like my (only?) choice is Adobe Premier Pro 1.5. *I have used the Studio for editing 60i, and seems to work fine so far. *

Studio is extremely limited as to what it can do. It's fine to start out with and get your bearings, but it's easy to outgrow.

Premiere just recently added 24p. You have other options for the PC, most notably (and most cost-effectively) Sony Vegas. As was referenced above, Vegas is almost the official NLE of DVXuser.com.

[kmcgrath]

Yes, that is exactly where I am right now, just trying to get my bearings with video editing. So for the short term, Studio seems to be a good way to get my feet wet. Does Vegas have specific advantages for the DVX that accounts for its popularity among DVX users?

[dakotapod]

If budget is there you almost must have the ability to edit 24p. You have a kick ass camera, be a shame to not use the 24p

Prem Pro, Vegas, FCP and Avid (with mojo, but big $$) can do th 24. Just boils down to what you want to buy and like.

Like Barry noted - Download the trials and see what jumps out at you. The prices vary so that might help the choice. Vegas is the least expensive but still a great NLE

[David Jimerson]

Does Vegas have specific advantages for the DVX that accounts for its popularity among DVX users?

Price point, for one. It's much less expensive than pretty much any other NLE and has all of the functionality.

Also, Vegas was able to handle 24p earlier than most NLEs, with the exception of Blade, which no one seemed to like very much. People adopted early, got hooked, and there they stayed.

[kmcgrath]

Good idea. I will try downloading a trial version of Vegas and see how it goes. My only reluctance is that I am very new to video editing, and my impression was that the pro editing software like Vegas was very much more complex than consumer stuff and much more difficut to learn and use.

[kmcgrath]

I just went to download a trial version of Vegas 5 and it says that I will have access to all of the features except that requiring a license (MPEG, AC-3). Does this mean that I will be able to use all features of the software (my interest is to produce a 24P video), but will not be able to burn a dvd to see the results?

[David Jimerson]

Most likely not. DVDs are MPEG-2 format. Do you have DVD authoring/encoding software?

Coming from Studio, you're actually in a fairly decent position to go into Vegas. I think you'll find the interfaces similar.

[kmcgrath]

Will I be able to create a dvd using the trial version (since they state on download page of Vegas that cannot use mpeg and ac-3 in trial version)?

[David Jimerson]

That's why I asked if you have any other DVD authoring software (besides Studio). If not, then no.

[kmcgrath]

Oops, I missed your comment. The only dvd authoring software I have is what came with the Studio, so I guess I am out of luck. At least I can try out the Vegas and see how it works. I just downloaded this morning, and from the looks of the user manual, it will be much more complex than Studio. Do you have any idea whether I could expect to see any better video of audio quality producing dvd's from Vegas compared with Studio (assuming that everything else is the same)?

[dakotapod]

I'm guessing here because the last time I used Vegas was Ver. 4 and I havn't used Pinnacle but I see no reason why you can't export your finished clip from Vegas as an avi and then encode it with Pinnacle to DVD.

[David Jimerson]

I'm guessing here because the last time I used Vegas was Ver. 4 and I havn't used Pinnacle but I see no reason why you can't export your finished clip from Vegas as an avi and then encode it with Pinnacle to DVD.

He wants to do a 24p DVD and Studio won't do it.

[dakotapod]

Doh! - my bad.

[bilgami]

i love my axp mojo.

[bodaphoto]

Actually David, Pinnacle 6 does edit in 24p now, but does not capture in 24P.
The reason I did not move up. However, it depends on what you are editing and doing. I use LE 5.62, because I do Weddings. It is more convenient because I can author my DVDs right from the timeline, plus the layout of the program is more organized than the some of the other prgrams. Also, most of our clients have NTSC tvs and have no clue about 24P. I sometimes shoot in 24P and have some other things I do in LE to get a film like look for highlight clips and stuff.

Studio 9 I use for basic transfers that need little to no editing. It is quick and convenient. It saves me time and makes me extra $$.

As a friend and I are planning on doing different things like music videos and hopefully filmmaking (documentaries, shorts) I am building another system for the Premiere Suite(PP1.5, Encore, Audition, & AE). That will make four computers.....I need to clone myself now :D to run them all.

[David Jimerson]

As I've explained before, there's a 24p timeline in Edition 6, but it will not remove pulldown. You have to do that in another program. It makes Edition 6 functionally worthless for editing in 24p.

Other than that, I think it's a fine editing app.