Avid Xpress Pro HD now supports DVCPRO HD

[hvpz]

The link :
http://www.avid.com/company/releases/2004/041208__xpressprohd_prod.html

Do they have some private informations about the next coming camera from panasonic ? ::)


I hope . really. A lot. beaucoup. mucho.

[hvpz]

"The AJ-HDX400E will be available early 2005 at a suggested list price of 45,000 Euros."

Using an €45.000 (more than $60.000) camcorder and edit with Avid Express Pro...
It's certainly a good soft but it remains prosumer soft.
And I can't believe they bet on the sales of the AJ-HDX400E to support the DVCPRO HD.

[Barry_Green]

Well, that's two desktop editors that now support DVCPRO-HD (FCP-HD and Avid). Panasonic's already shown a DVCPRO-HD logo on the side of their little prosumer P2 camera... looks like Panasonic probably will introduce some prosumer DVCPRO-HD gear some day!

[Guest]

Indeed, a 24p Panny "MiniPro" would be very cool. The question is, how much of a sales lead are they willing to give Sony? Sony could move a lot of cams between now and NAB 05.

Unless Panny were to do one of those "we're releasing this cam in 4 months" announcements just to spite Sony sales, I guess NAB 05 is as good a time as any.

Panny now has the workflow covered on both the mac and pc side, so all we need is that little thing called the cam *L*

[hvpz]

hvpz - what is a pro-hd-software for you?

I don't think Avid released the xpress pro hd because they know something abouth Panasonic's plans? I think they released it because Avid is one of the standard aditing package in tv-studios. Tv studios are going HD today and if Avid didn't hade this option to offer than the stockmarket would panish the company. $ 58.58 was the last trade. Avid rised since september more than $ 20.00. Shareholders would leave the company if Avid did not support the future formats.

HD isn't a new big thing. Sony introduced HD on 1" i ?????? --- many years before but the market wasn't ready to move. Now it's time.

Sergej,

It's you who mentionned the AJ-HDX400E to explain the Avid express pro's DVCPRO HD support.
With the price of this camera, I was just asking to me (shared my though on dvxuser) if they decided to support DVCPRO HD only for this camera. My answer is : I don't think so...
DVCPRO HD is not a new HD format, so why they decided to support it only now ? For a camera priced more than $60.000 ? For Shareholders ? I really doubt about it...

Of course, HD time has come but with the choice of DVCPRO HD
support, Avid certainly *smell* that Panasonic will start a winter offensive against HDV with prosumer cameras. And, that what we hope all here, i think (24/25p recorded on DVCPRO HD).

And when I read this thread of dvinfo : http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36156 where Barry gave, as usual, great explanation, I know that HDV is not the way to go.

[David Jimerson]

I'm not aware of any European push or mandate to be HD in 2007. There's not even any mandate for US stations to be HD, and HD is developing more quickly here.

[David Jimerson]

David Jimerson - who did you ask?

Between 2007-2009 the Pal tv-stations going to move over to HD. And it going to be 25p for regular shows and 50p for sport. It means that the lowcost camcorders has to be progressive. But than you have to wait years to work with 24p/25p for the investment simular what you have today.

All PAL stations? Everywhere? Just all of Europe? I don't think so.

This report from the EBU:

http://www.ebu.ch/trev_300-wood.pdf

Just barely recommends a standard, and that was just October 2004. There couldn't possibly have been any decisions made about a Europe-wide HD standard which will be implemented, and certainly there hasn't been enough time to implement any kind of mandate.

Under whose authority is this 2007-2009 standard switch being made? Link me to it.

[David Jimerson]

It's hardly anything bad; I just don't think it's happening. Which means Avid had something else in mind.

[Barry_Green]

And... if this recommendation is to be believed, and the broadcasting networks in europe adopt this recommendation...

... doesn't that leave Sony totally screwed? *Twisting in the wind with an HDV product that doesn't support any sort of progressive-scan, when the second-largest market in the world is going to adopt progressive-scan only? Man, until this sorts out, anyone buying HDV is taking a significant risk.

Back on topic: is it too much to believe that Avid supports DVCPRO-HD because one of their prime competitors (FCP-HD) supports DVCPRO-HD?

Or maybe they do know something, maybe Panasonic is lining up editors for its anticipated (whenever) DVCPRO-HD consumer-priced camera? *If that's what's going on, I sure hope that they can convince Vegas to support it as well, but hey -- you'd have to applaud them, getting the editing/post solutions in place first...

[Gary_McClurg]

Sergeij, why don't you register and become a member. My guess if you did you'd be a Platinum member in a few days. ;D

[David Jimerson]

Well, one hopes Sony looks at Vegas in terms of what Vegas could do instead of shutting out competing formats . . .

But Sony is a corporate monolith like any other, I suppose.

One wonders if it would support 24p if Sonic Foundry hadn't put it there first.

[David Jimerson]

Seriously, Sergej; what information are you going on for the 2007-2009 PAL conversion to HD? *I can find neither hide nor hair of it anywhere.

[David Jimerson]

Sergej, I have no idea what in hell you're talking about, and I think, most of the time, you don't either.

You seem to think that all of PAL-land is moving over to HD between the years of 2007 and 2009. I've asked twice for further information on that, because I can't find any, and the information I *do* find is contrary to that, but instead of actually responding, you have to make it about my need to "hang on" to some kind of archaic technology (first response of yours) and then an EU vs. US thing.

Just answer the damn question, if you're so informed, and maybe we can discuss it.

THIS is why you were banned. You'd think you'd take the hint and just stay away from someplace where you clearly overstayed your welcome by far.

[David Jimerson]

Yeah, discuss, as in, converse, which is what this board is for.

You appear to have little but contempt for the members of this board. So why do you come here?

[David Jimerson]

That's an interesting question coming from someone who has little to offer but insults, who won't reveal himself and his true location, who posts from the anonymity of "Guest" status, who brags about hijacking someone else's ISP and internet account, and who continually trolls at a site where he's been told he's not welcome.

I'd normally handle this sort of thing in private messaging, but as you've never had the deceny to register, I can't. Why don't you register? Because then your ISP would be open and you'd be barred from ever posting again.

(Jarred, this is my changed vote, now in favor of disabling guest posting.)

[Barry_Green]

I've met David. He's three hundred and fifty two, but he doesn't look a day over 35.

[J.R. Hudson]

WTF

Someone freaking disable guest posting.

[Neil Rowe]

sergej, i feel sorry for you.. i really do. im sorry for whatever it is that your going through... :-/

..that said , i think the guest posting could leave town without me even blinking.

[Neil Rowe]

for some reason i had to post agin so that my past post would show up.. oh well .. maybe ill validat ethe post with a smiley.. or better yet.. this thread now deserves a :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

[J.R. Hudson]

:D