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11-07-2004, 07:10 PM
hey guys. need to hang someone- i was thinking of a harness aparatus- we want the audience to see the whole body hanging. any ideas? something that wouldnt be too expensive? thanks.
11-07-2004, 07:47 PM
Cheap AND effective!
11-07-2004, 07:51 PM
Whatever you use for a harness or whatever make sure the noose is NOT at all real or operational! *:o *If the harness fails you will kill the actor * :-/ (the union frowns on this)
11-07-2004, 08:26 PM
no snuff films! aight?
11-07-2004, 08:27 PM
11-08-2004, 01:25 PM
i would use trick photography for this. for example, show a silhouette from afar of a dummy getting hung, make the dummy about the same size as the actor, a scarecrow essentially. stuff it with newspaper and blankets. and dress it in the actors clothes. show the feet drop. or you could do some closeup shots of the actors face with the noose around his neck but standing on firm ground struggling to breathe. hope it works out!
11-08-2004, 02:04 PM
i would use a sihouette, but its in an old jail- not outside or anything- we have an outside hanging with tons of bodies that we're using dummies for, but inside has to be real. thx for the tips though. any more ideas?
11-08-2004, 11:05 PM
Why not just do two shots, one a mid of him "hanging" not revealing hes actually standing on a chair, and then one of his swinging legs, while
"hanging" by his hands
11-09-2004, 06:16 AM
What I'd try is dressing the guy in a harness under his clothes (you know, the kind they use to rappel...), make the rope go inside his clothes and out through the back of his head. Tie a (somewhat loose) hanger to the real ropes and around his head (That will probably desguise the climbing rope coming out the guy's shirt). So the actor will actually hang from the harness and not his neck.
You will probably have to make him dress a strong vest inside his clothes to ensure his axis will be the same as the rope, and not to give away where he is truly hanging from.
But I'm saying from the top of my head. Never actually hung anyone before...
11-09-2004, 10:33 AM
What I'd try is dressing the guy in a harness under his clothes (you know, the kind they use to rappel...),
That's the way I have seen it done.
Btw - I think filming this without a qualified stunt person is asking for trouble. I can see the headline now "Indy Film Left Hanging" :D
11-10-2004, 01:11 PM
But if you DO end up killing your actor, make sure it's the last scene you need him for!! Doing pickups with a corpse can be a right pain, trust me... *;D
On the plus side, you wouldn't have to pay him! * ;)
11-10-2004, 02:35 PM
yeah i'm trying to find someone thats REALLY depressed
Not to mention, if you kill him, you've got the perfect shot! No need to worry about whether or not it's convincing!
11-11-2004, 01:56 AM
Yeah, but if the performance is ridiculous, you would not be able to repeat it. Trust me, bad actors can't even die propperly.
11-11-2004, 04:14 AM
So you're looking for a talented but suicidal method actor... good luck! ;D
11-11-2004, 01:05 PM
So you're looking for a talented but suicidal method actor... good luck! ;D
But, aren't they all suicidal? ;)
11-11-2004, 01:52 PM
"You talkin' to me...? You talkin' to me....? Who the f**k do you think you're talkin' to...?" ;)
11-11-2004, 02:10 PM
11-11-2004, 06:13 PM
anyone want to do it?
11-12-2004, 06:01 AM
Yeah, anyone feeling down at the moment...!! ;D
11-19-2004, 12:21 AM
You can do this effect with an undercloths harness and 3/32 aircraft cable. Run the cable inside the rope through the base of the knot and then to the upper back pickpoint of your harness. The noose should not be tied, but instead tied, then cut, and pinned into place. The cable supports the weight, and in case the rope slips, the noose will slip open insted of strangling your talent. You can get an inexpensive full body harness from AmSpec for about 190 dollars:
As someone else said, I would recommend finding a qualified stunt coordinator to rig this stunt for you. It is simple, but if you have no experience, you could easilly hurt someone. I do some free work for indy films. Feel free to contact me if you would like some help.
11-19-2004, 03:09 PM
sure thing- thats a lot tumble.
12-18-2004, 08:47 PM
Please do be careful; I lost a friend during the 6th grade who wanted to grow up to be a stunt man. His hanging harness failed and he in fact hanged himself. Whatever rig you come up with, make sure that a failure of the harness causes the actor to drop, and not actually hang.
12-31-2004, 07:36 AM
You need a full body harness, Deist, Amspec (L.A.). They run about $100, and have pick points on the shoulders and back. You will also need 1/32"Aircraft cable, available at most OSH or Home Depots, nicopress and sleeves and a shackle . Use two short lengths of cable, sleeves and nicopress to create a "Y" harness and loop behind your actors head. Create another loop on a longer piece of cable that you can either wrap around the rope that you're going to use or push it through the rope. Attach your cable to whatever is going to support the actors weight and connect it with your ''Y" harness using the shackle. Do NOT attach the rope solidly to ANYTHING, just dress it above the actor, you may then put the noose around his or her neck without fear of anything bad happening. It may take a bit of testing to get him or her to hang right, but this is how you do it in the movies.
09-19-2005, 10:01 AM
Hey Zach....if all else fails, shoot the actor (hanging) from behind, dangling, frame some where below his knee and the space between his feet and ground. You could then have him actually hanging more comfortably in a chin-up like position. With the arms fully extended over the head, the sway will look more convincing. This works well when you shoot the actor on his way to being hung. Shoot to edit. Just a thought.
zach.. i can prolly make you a fake noose that will come undone if the harness fails. as for the harness get one of those rock climbing harnesses but put it on backwards soo you can ide the wire...
06-07-2006, 06:41 PM
Another easy way to pull this off would be if you have access to a greenscreen room. You could drape a table in a blue or green chroma screen and then have the actor stand on that, with a very taught but not choking noose around his neck, and then you can have the background be whatever you want. The thing is you'd have to build everything in front of a greenscreen and you'd want the table to not be there so he'd have to be on his tippy toes.
In school a few years ago my group and I hung someone. It looked realistic. We used a rock climbing harness under the clothes. We ran the cable up through the back of his shirt and used a belt around his chest area around the rope and his chest to keep the wire close to his body and prevent him from leaning forward. We hung that wire over the branch and hoisted him up. We ran the cable along the back side of the barnch that the camera wasn't going to be on, some hammers and nails were used if i recall correctly. We continued to run that down the tree and tied it to something out of the shot to keep him up. He was able to stay up there for about a 30-45 minutes before needing to release some pressure off his chest.
For the noose and hanging,
We made a noose, wrapped it around his neck, tossed it over the tree, using masking tape, we taped the wire to the noose. We tied a new rope around the tree making it look as if the noose rope was tied up there. Using pins(i think) we connected the noose rope to the dummy rope.
I'll look through some of my tapes and try to find the footage of us actually putting it together and what we did and defintly the final outcome. What I said may not be 100% accurate but it was close to it.
Goodluck and be safe.
You can see the cable on the last one but when the video is moving you wont be able to notice and it's an easy fix
and heres a 3 second clip of the Phil running over and hitting Dave's legs
I'll look through some tapes hopefully in the next couple of days and try to find the actual set up of it