Direct to Hard Drive

[nullphonic]

Quote from dvinfo.net...

"Canon offers their DV-PC Recorder software for free when you join the XL2 Owner's Club, and it's a handy little utility for recording MicroSoft AVI Type I or II video files directly to your laptop's hard drive directly from the XL2 via FireWire, allowing you to completely bypass the DV cassette if you so desire."

Here's the link to the article...

http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article05.php

(Towards the bottom "Your Own Laptop Computer.")

[NoMaD]

Good move. If you bypass does it not pull down?

[David Jimerson]

If it's like the DVX, the pulldown happens before it goes to firewire.

I assume it's like the DVX.

[NoMaD]

If it's like the DVX, the pulldown happens before it goes to firewire. *

I assume it's like the DVX.

You can bypass on the DVX?

[David Jimerson]

No.

[ChuckS]

So the firewire is disabled during recording?

Does the firewire only ourput when in VTR mode? ???

[Rich Lee]

what would be really cool is...

when your shooting in 16x9, while connected to a drive. to have the camera bypass the squeeze process so that you in fact get a true 16x9 image, not a 16x9 squeezed into 4x3.

we shall see...

[David Jimerson]

The firewire is not disabled during recording.

What comes out through the firewire is exactly what's recorded to tape, i.e., 60i, with pulldown if shooting 24p. You can send out through firewire while recording to tape.

[scharky]

I don't get what is so great about that software. Any NLE can capture footage while the camera is recording, infact, you don't even have to press record on the camera, at least in vegas. Just hook up your camera, go to vegas capture, and hit "capture" and it will start recording your footage directly to the HD. You don't even need a tape!

[David Jimerson]

You can do it with Windows Moviemaker, for Pete's sake.

[Slapdragon]

Yes, this is no big deal. Almost every NLE can do this. Now, if it could do that to a hard drive it would be something.

[ChuckS]

You can record directly to a hard drive, there are several 80GB HD's from the like of Fast Forward video etc..

[nullphonic]

Then what's all the hype about Quickstream (and related products like Fast Forward)? Convinience only? Also, I thought you had to roll tape on the DVX regardless of whether or not you were capturing to a hard drive?

[David Jimerson]

No. It feeds the data stream whether or not tape is rolling.

[nullphonic]

Ah, gotcha. Now that I look at it, the "must have tape rolling" was specific to the Quickstream if you wanted to use the DVX record engage, otherwise you could hit "go" on the Quickstream itself while the camera is in stand by. Same logic for NLE.

[ChuckS]

When a hard drive has a failure its usually catastrophic, if I used one of these devices I would roll tape as a back up then I believe the hard drive can be started and stopped with the camera.

[Zoomforce]

yes.. I lost a whackload of clips on the Quickstream, and am glad as hell I ran a tape during capture. Even in the new DV mag when they reviewed the Quickstream the guy lost clips. What I wanna see is a camera that has a little door you slide an ipod into.. that would be cool... record right onto the ipod and you could play back the clip on the little black and white screen. ha ha ha.

[ShannonRawls]

Maybe the software they have will record TIMECODE along with the timecode on the tape.

Also, maybe the software will allow you to hit ONE button and record to Hardrive AND tape with Synched Timecode!

Now...I have YET to see any software do that. *it's either capture to hardrive with it's own time code (with or without a tape in camera), or hit a button on the software and capture to tape only. *But NOT BOTH at same time from hitting one button on the software. *and if the time code was synched....oh my, that would be sweet!

I know Vegas Capture won't do this. *It's one or the other (unless someone knows someting I don't). *I have never heard of any capture software that would do this... (unless someone knows someting I don't).

So maybe that's what this fancy new software does? I dunno.

[Slapdragon]

yes.. I lost a whackload of clips on the Quickstream, and am glad as hell I ran a tape during capture. Even in the new DV mag when they reviewed the Quickstream the guy lost clips. *What I wanna see is a camera that has a little door you slide an ipod into.. that would be cool... record right onto the ipod and you could play back the clip on the little black and white screen. ha ha ha.

Jarred,

You can capture video to an iPod from a FireStore. I agree though that I want an iPod to slip right in an on-camera mount.