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PurposeDriven
04-08-2004, 04:39 AM
One of the greatest films ever made! Just bought the two disc set, love it more every time I see it.
The film is so large in scale, so well acted, the time and effort to make this period peice must have been so large. This film rocks my world, esp. the Director's Cut.
J.R. Hudson
04-08-2004, 09:39 AM
This film is one of my all time favorites indeed! *F Murray Abraham is classic in a super swan song kind of way. *Tom Hulce! *Could anyone have played Wolfy like this?! *Whatever happended to Tom? *Slam Dance, Amadeus, Dominick & Eugene?
This film truly kicks ass. *My favorite scene is when Amadeus meets the Emperor for the first time and 'spices up' Salieri's musical piece!
Bwhahahahh! *CLASSIC!!!!!!
Salieri: From now on we are enemies, You and I. Because You choose for Your instrument a boastful, lustful, smutty, infantile boy and give me only the ability to recognize the incarnation. Because You are unjust, unfair, unkind I will block You, I swear it. I will hinder and harm Your creature on Earth as far as I am able. I will ruin Your incarnation.
David Jimerson
04-08-2004, 10:21 AM
It was also one of the better stagings of "Don Giovanni."
Anartiste
04-08-2004, 05:22 PM
A model of dramaturgy. At least a hundred set-up's/pay off's you can hardly notice unless you see the film many times. But you never get to a dramatic pivot without having been prepared to recieve it in the best emotional conditions. Everything in the script is just what, why, where and when it should be. Theme meets drama everywhere, both resonating together like in music. Thanks mister Schaeffer !
And of course, I don't need to mention here that Milos Forman is a giant, do I ? When he gets a script as high as his mastery of filmmaking (like in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" or "Amadeus"), he tickles the angels' toes.
The climactic scene — the Requiem's "Confutatis" hand-written by Salieri under the dictation of Mozart in agony — always triggers uncontrollable thrills on my skin. And I saw that film ten times at least !
My only criticism concerns the fact that some opera tunes are sung in English (the producer's touch probably...) which is an heresy.
That exception apart, this film is as perfect as... a Mozart symphony.
Thanks for this topic, PD ! It gave me the taste of an eleventh viewing and I know I'm gonna looooooooooooooove it !
BLWolf
04-08-2004, 11:59 PM
An excellent film in every respect. It was one of the first DVDs that I ever got; I don't think that they had released a 2-disc set yet when I got mine :(.
They staged Amadeus in Orange County a year or two ago and I still regret not getting tickets.
I think the word "genius" is applied to things all too readily in today's society, however the works of W. A. Mozart (1756-1791) are truly the epitome of genius in the arts.
J.R. Hudson
04-09-2004, 12:22 AM
Thats a fact. Good call. F Murray was pretty close to genius in that performance though!
BLWolf
04-09-2004, 01:03 AM
Truly.
F. Murray is great in everything he does, but he was sublime as Salieri. I can't imagine any other actor reaching the heights that he did in that role.
"Amadeus" is one of those special films that stays with me, as clear as crystal, while some other films just seem to fade away.
J.R. Hudson
04-09-2004, 09:48 AM
The Wolf said it again!
And all was good....
Anartiste
04-09-2004, 11:36 AM
Nobody to hate that film ? Not even you John H. ;)
This topic is getting boring. I'm back to the Kubrick's one.
PaleRider
04-09-2004, 03:24 PM
Greetings, one and all. I ride out of the mists of time to bestow upon you my glorious opion, regarding Amadeus.
I cannot stand the film. Even the utterance of the word makes me cringe. I would rather be forced to sit through a thousand nights of the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL than ever watch that piece of filth passed off as film, Amadeus.
If only could erase the horrid memory from my mind, alas, I cannot, and am forever forced to wander through life, scarred.
So say I.
BLWolf
04-09-2004, 05:41 PM
The Wolf said it again!
And all was good....
Haha. :)
Don't listen to me; I'm pretty much an idiot! ;D
PurposeDriven
04-10-2004, 01:55 AM
PaleRider... may God have mercy on your soul...
Anartiste
04-10-2004, 04:46 AM
Thanks to put some spice in this somehow boring consensus, Pale Rider. But there won't be an exciting argument until you develop a little bit the reasons for your loathing.
I thought you would have been grateful to Hollywood to make such a wonderful publicity for Austrian culture... ;)
araujofh
08-06-2004, 05:52 PM
This was definitely a great movie. I bought the DVD just because I heard F. Murray Abraham had won an oscar. So, the DVD was on promotion, and it was the same price if I was going to rent it, so I bought. And if the film sucked, I would get to keep it.
But, I just loved the film, and F. Murray is just brilliant. I loved the great acting, and the stupid mozart. He was so weird and funny at the same time.
All the best
Fidel.
J.R. Hudson
08-06-2004, 06:57 PM
I always thought Tom Hulce would be bigger after that. :-/
Mike_Donis
08-06-2004, 07:23 PM
He was great in that role for sure...
I remember the first time I saw it was in seventh grade, in music class. The teacher told us that we'd be watching a movie about Amadeus, and nobody knew anything about it, and we were a little disapointed at first.
Then we saw it...EVERY SEVENTH GRADER loved it.
I have the DVD (one double sided disc though...) and consider it one of my favs. It's one of the only movies where I can't watch five minutes of it without watching the entire thing.
J.R. Hudson
08-06-2004, 07:53 PM
I own this one as well (The single $9.99 version) and just love it. Did you know F Murray was one of the Fruit of the Loom dudes?
Mike_Donis
08-06-2004, 08:38 PM
Well I can't picture him now WITHOUT his old-age Salieri make up, so I REALLY can't tell if you're serious *;D
J.R. Hudson
08-06-2004, 08:41 PM
No really. HE was like a grape or something. I swear.
Mike_Donis
08-06-2004, 08:43 PM
LOL....oh boy :P
araujofh
08-07-2004, 01:35 AM
I own this one as well (The single $9.99 version) and just love it. Did you know F Murray was one of the Fruit of the Loom dudes?
I got the double edition for £7.99. If I had to rent it, I would pay £5. So, better give 2 pounds more and get to keep it. Even if it is crap. :)
All the best
Fidel.
Mike_Donis
08-08-2004, 05:26 PM
Wow....5 pounds to rent a movie...that's about 12 dollars here in Canada! :-/
araujofh
08-09-2004, 12:43 AM
Wow....5 pounds to rent a movie...that's about 12 dollars here in Canada! :-/
Yes, but I think BlockBuster is a pound cheaper. Even so, it is still expensive.
All the best
Fidel.
Mike_Donis
08-09-2004, 01:37 PM
wow...
CaptainMench
08-09-2004, 10:13 PM
Hulce films since Amadeus:
Amadeus - 1984
The Rise and Rise of Daniel Rocket (TV) - 1986
Echo Park - 1986
Slamdance - 1987
Shadowman - 1988
Dominick and Eugene - 1988
John Henry (TV) - 1988
Parenthood - 1989
Black Rainbow - 1990
Murder in Mississippi (TV) - 1990
The Inner Circle - 1992
Fearless - 1993
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein - 1994
Wings Of Courage - 1995
The Heidi Chronicles (TV) - 1995
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - 1996
The Brink of Summer's End (Documentary) - Released 1997, Filmed pre-88
The Hunchback of Notre Dame II (Direct to video/DVD) - 2002
Amadeus - Director's Cut -- Tom Promotes the Film - 2002
Hmm... he's doing a lot of producing and directing for stage now. Lives in Seattle.
CaptM
J.R. Hudson
08-09-2004, 11:08 PM
I loved Slamdance and Dominick and Eugene (In fact Ray Liotta is one of my favorite actors). Well, anyway, I always thought Hulce would be 'bigger'.
David Jimerson
08-10-2004, 02:47 PM
Did you know F Murray was one of the Fruit of the Loom dudes?
What makes perfect?
Anyone else blown away by the fact that Amadeus was made in '84?
Mike_Donis
08-12-2004, 05:16 PM
Why?