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xxrotinivol2
05-29-2010, 11:09 PM
TITLE: "Express Delivery: Coquille, Oregon"

LOGLINE: Big Al Higgins wants his package in Coquille, and he wants it by sunrise. A journey through the west and to a fat man's belly.

CAST
Moreland Cranshaw - Jack McCabe
The Boss - Bruce Spielbauer
Big Al - Turk Muller
Phineas McDougal - Derrick Mitchell

CREW
Writers/Directors - Dan Kolen & David Cantor-Echols
Sound - Clayton Roche

LOCATIONS (in Chicago)
- Caldwell Woods
- Moher Pub
- My Apt

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-30-2010, 03:57 PM
POSTER: To be added

LOGLINE: Big Al Higgins wants his package in Coquille, and he wants it by sunrise. A journey through the west, the metaphysical, and a fat man's belly.

Casting: June 12th and 13th // Shooting: June 26th and June 27th, with re-shoots TBD. To be shot on: 5D

Is it possible to ask people on the board to review the script. I'd love to hear thoughts about it before we shoot, but I don't know if that violates rules of the fest. If it doesn't , PM me, and I'll send it on over if you're interested.

Thanks and good luck to everyone!Welcome to the Fest!

I believe it's no problem to get feedback on the script. In fact, some people have gone so far as to post them online before.

MAH

xxrotinivol2
05-31-2010, 11:52 AM
Ok sweet, thanks. Just my second go around, and I'm giving myself a lot more time to do this one, so fingers crossed. Can't wait to see your short. Your screen grabs look awesome, and your last two films (for Monster and Betrayal) have been really good.

Troy Ruff
05-31-2010, 02:50 PM
yet another! sweet man, welcome to the fest. :)

4100xpb
06-03-2010, 09:09 AM
Welcome to the fest! I like a good 'deliver the package' type movie, they can be very intense. Journey through a fat man's belly? I'm officially intrigued. While I don't have a big history here yet, I'd be happy to look at the script and offer my input (for what it's worth). Regardless, good luck and keep us posted!

xxrotinivol2
06-04-2010, 12:18 PM
Thank you for the welcome Troy. Thanks 4100xpb for the offer. I'd love to send the script to you. Should have a draft ready to send out early next week.

dre83
06-06-2010, 06:07 PM
Plot sounds good.

An indication of time (by sunrise)

A point of no return (he wants it)

So this could become something very good.

pixelated
06-06-2010, 06:29 PM
So, are you actually shooting this in Coquille?

xxrotinivol2
06-11-2010, 04:45 PM
Thanks, trying to make sure the conception of the plot is executed well. And nope, not shooting in Coquille. Wish I had the budget to shoot out in Oregon. I go out there a couple times a years to visit relatives, but nope, we're getting some good dense woods to film in the midwest for the finale as a substitute.

The close-to final draft of the script will be finished tonight, so if people wanna read it, let me know (PM or do it on the board).

xxrotinivol2
07-10-2010, 01:31 AM
It's been a crazy shoot, but everything moved along ok. From actors dropping out the day of shooting, to me coming down with some awful sickness a week before the shoot, the project seemed doomed, but we pulled thru! Hope everyone enjoys!

xxrotinivol2
07-15-2010, 01:46 AM
Poster and Screen Grabs up!

Matt Harris
07-15-2010, 01:42 PM
cool, looks good, i like the Indian. Get this sucker done.

kfer250
07-19-2010, 07:25 AM
woo woo! looking forward to watching!

xxrotinivol2
07-19-2010, 08:53 AM
looking forward to watching everyone's! the short uploaded 2 hours ago, just updated cast/crew/locations listing.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-19-2010, 09:13 AM
Grabs look great! Good luck.

Mike

Anthony Todaro
07-20-2010, 08:51 PM
Hey not sure if you're Dan or David or both so hey to you both. I'm Anthony.

This is my kind of short. I was confused, thrilled and compelled to find out what's coming next. Okay, the wig bugged me but that was about it. The decision to go no music was a good one in this. I loved all the characters and the mystery macguffin box. Great work. I even thought the poster had a unique but old school feel. Like I said, my kind of short.

Chris_Keaton
07-20-2010, 09:41 PM
Mcguffin luvin. I can't put my finger on it, but I loved this short. The bad guy did a great job. The indian dude was funny. It all worked on some level. Good Job.

Curugon
07-21-2010, 12:21 PM
One of the best character ensembles of the fest. Each one was unique, colorful and a lot of fun to watch. Really appreciated the non-political-correctness on the whole, and the dark humor. While I was watching it, I kept wondering who the hell the protagonist was - who I was supposed to be following - but by the end it didn't bother me too much. I have no idea what I took away from the experience, but I know I enjoyed it.

xxrotinivol2
07-21-2010, 01:14 PM
Hey not sure if you're Dan or David or both so hey to you both. I'm Anthony.

This is my kind of short. I was confused, thrilled and compelled to find out what's coming next. Okay, the wig bugged me but that was about it. The decision to go no music was a good one in this. I loved all the characters and the mystery macguffin box. Great work. I even thought the poster had a unique but old school feel. Like I said, my kind of short.

Anthony, thanks for your feedback, it's Dan. Glad you dug it, it was a ton of fun to write, shoot, and edit. Very very happy it translated for your viewing too. We actually had music written, but every place where it would swell, we had to remove due to time. It ended up making sense to have music altogether. The poster, I used the poster for Shane (http://www.vintageposters.com/catalog/al12.htm) as a template and added the elements of our movie to it.



Mcguffin luvin. I can't put my finger on it, but I loved this short. The bad guy did a great job. The indian dude was funny. It all worked on some level. Good Job.

Chris, thank you, really happy you enjoyed it. Bruce did a heck of a job becoming a stone-cold Indian with comic timing.



One of the best character ensembles of the fest. Each one was unique, colorful and a lot of fun to watch. Really appreciated the non-political-correctness on the whole, and the dark humor. While I was watching it, I kept wondering who the hell the protagonist was - who I was supposed to be following - but by the end it didn't bother me too much. I have no idea what I took away from the experience, but I know I enjoyed it.

Thank you! The actors who we ended up with were fantastic and added a ton to their parts. We got lucky they all were available. Very happy you enjoyed the experience. Thank you all for taking the time to comment. Got my movies downloading last night (have a slow connection, can't do streaming), so I look forward to starting to watch everyone's tonite.

Richard J. Johnson
07-21-2010, 02:57 PM
watched it again, Still holds up.

Matt Harris
07-21-2010, 03:29 PM
XX, this was a really interesting short and I liked it for the great character work and acting. I really liked the mob boss a ton, he was perfect. He had a very natural delivery. The Indian was great as well, it was all very pulpy and it looks like you guys had a blast making this. I loved the location by the stream, and i liked how the older fella was down on the ground and in a tight spot at the end, i felt that. Good job, i look forward to more films from you!

stinkpot
07-21-2010, 09:16 PM
This had a real "David Lynch" feel to it. I really enjoyed the story and the acting. Good job to you, your cast and your crew.

4100xpb
07-22-2010, 12:00 AM
Nice introduction. I loved the boss character, he had a great charm and was entertaining and funny. Morlan, I had more trouble with. You start to develop some sympathy for him by putting him in that weird situation with all those oddball characters, but I don’t have enough by the time he kills the other guy, so from then on I don’t care what happens to him. I’m not sure if more of the backstory was lost in editing that would have helped there. You had some really nice shots and creative angles. Very well done.

Blaine
07-22-2010, 10:21 AM
I was initially bugged by the way the mystery man on the telephone delivered his lines. By the time we see the rest of the cast, I realized it was a comedy and I really came to appreciate it. Big Al was well cast for the part.

A couple of shots struck me as odd. The first one was the knife-through-the-thumb, not sure what that was about. The other was at the 3:10 mark with your cowboy in close profile and the b.g. out of focus. For some reason, that shot pulled me out of the movie for a bit. Other than that, I was with you throughout, watching to see what happened next.

Brian Parker
07-22-2010, 03:52 PM
Interesting film. Very unique characters who were all played well by the actors, the boss and the thief in particular. The guy the case was originally cuffed to seemed a little out of place. Production was good with crisp image and sound. I liked the offbeat style of the film. What's in the box?!

dre83
07-22-2010, 05:09 PM
if the voice coming out of the phone is not important..it's ok... If it was important the level was little to low.

Did you use the on cam mike only ?

Your shots are ok. There not the "uncle Rob is fillming a wedding and talks to much" look :-p

I like the use of shadows.

The shot of the metronome, clock and... sand-thing... Is it to indicate something ? Or just because it was a cool shot ? I have a feeling "the boss" finds time important...

Maybe cut faster to the flashback of that old guy... Now it was a bit "broken" in sound etc...

Some levels could be louder...much louder.... about 10 - 15dB louder.
I know the older guy sits further from the indian in the "saloon" ? Well it looked more for a classroom to me :-p But anyway... in situations where someone is sitting further but the other guy hears that one guy, you can almost keep the same level... Maybe adding some reverb to make it more "roomy". Making the effect of "I hear it from further" is not only lowering the level.

I got a bit lost in the story....

aah ok...that other guy is the boss... Was it ment I knew it from the first moment I saw him with the axe ?

ok...I get it...but you have used a wrong key or a wrong lock...

ZazaCast
07-22-2010, 05:11 PM
This had a real "David Lynch" feel to it. I really enjoyed the story and the acting. Good job to you, your cast and your crew.

I got the same thing...David Lynch! I like this film. Maybe just a little less DOF shots.
Other then that it was a good time.

...and hey... what's in the box?:undecided

Michael Anthony Horrigan
07-23-2010, 06:10 AM
I loved the characters in this movie. The looks on their faces even when just in the background of a scene were great. The mystery behind it all was a lot of fun as well. I especially liked how the film opened. Nice setup.

Great ending as well.

Very different and refreshing. Nice job.

MAH

xxrotinivol2
07-27-2010, 06:14 AM
XX, this was a really interesting short and I liked it for the great character work and acting. I really liked the mob boss a ton, he was perfect. He had a very natural delivery. The Indian was great as well, it was all very pulpy and it looks like you guys had a blast making this. I loved the location by the stream, and i liked how the older fella was down on the ground and in a tight spot at the end, i felt that. Good job, i look forward to more films from you!

Defcon, thank you so much for the positive notes, I was very happy with our cast. I look forward to making more shorts for the fest, and seeing more from you as well.


This had a real "David Lynch" feel to it. I really enjoyed the story and the acting. Good job to you, your cast and your crew.

Thanks, I looooove David Lynch. Guess somehow his influence crept into the film a lil' bit.


Nice introduction. I loved the boss character, he had a great charm and was entertaining and funny. Morlan, I had more trouble with. You start to develop some sympathy for him by putting him in that weird situation with all those oddball characters, but I don’t have enough by the time he kills the other guy, so from then on I don’t care what happens to him. I’m not sure if more of the backstory was lost in editing that would have helped there. You had some really nice shots and creative angles. Very well done.

4100xpb, the one problem we encountered is getting a script that we could barely get under 7, to fit into the 6 minute mark. As many people experience you just lose stuff in the edit. I think the final version, probably will run around 8-9 minutes will have more space to breathe, take in, pretty much everything cut is from Moreland.



I was initially bugged by the way the mystery man on the telephone delivered his lines. By the time we see the rest of the cast, I realized it was a comedy and I really came to appreciate it. Big Al was well cast for the part.

A couple of shots struck me as odd. The first one was the knife-through-the-thumb, not sure what that was about. The other was at the 3:10 mark with your cowboy in close profile and the b.g. out of focus. For some reason, that shot pulled me out of the movie for a bit. Other than that, I was with you throughout, watching to see what happened next.

Blaine, thanks for commenting and hanging in there throughout despite the distracting shots. The knife/thumb shot will work better in a sequence later once that scene is extended a bit, I think, and the cowboy shot, I think it's an example of me falling in love with a shot, but it doesn't quite fit in the sequence. Always enjoy reading your thoughts, so I'm happy you took the time to review this short.


Interesting film. Very unique characters who were all played well by the actors, the boss and the thief in particular. The guy the case was originally cuffed to seemed a little out of place. Production was good with crisp image and sound. I liked the offbeat style of the film. What's in the box?!

Brian, thank you. Filmed on a 5d and recorded a lav and boom onto my old PD170. Synched that up later. Loved seeing your work this time around! The whole cast, or at least my intention was, to make the whole cast all seem out of place, brought together by strange circumstances to carry this unknown briefcase across the country. So I guess I'm happy you found Phineas out of place... What's in the box? Well, let's just say it's something valuable...



Some levels could be louder...much louder.... about 10 - 15dB louder.
I know the older guy sits further from the indian in the "saloon" ? Well it looked more for a classroom to me :-p But anyway... in situations where someone is sitting further but the other guy hears that one guy, you can almost keep the same level... Maybe adding some reverb to make it more "roomy". Making the effect of "I hear it from further" is not only lowering the level.

Dre83, what levels do you recommend keeping the piece at? Also what filter do you recommend using to make something feel more roomy and far away? Thanks man, great comments!


I got the same thing...David Lynch! I like this film. Maybe just a little less DOF shots.
Other then that it was a good time.

...and hey... what's in the box?:undecided

LOL, ZAZA, ain't sayin!


I loved the characters in this movie. The looks on their faces even when just in the background of a scene were great. The mystery behind it all was a lot of fun as well. I especially liked how the film opened. Nice setup.

Great ending as well.

Very different and refreshing. Nice job.

MAH

Thanks for the comments, Hostile Destination was pretty pretty tite, and I cannot wait to see what you come up with next for the next festival. Glad you liked the set-up and the close, and the piece overall. I cannot thank the actors enough for being amazing.

jasonthewho
07-27-2010, 06:41 PM
This was a really interesting short. I loved a lot of the imagery, especially the key, and the shots of the boss on the phone. From your avatar, I presume your a Gilliam fan, and I can definitely see his influence in your style. Great characters as well. Some of the film was incoherent for me, and some shots and audio didn't seem on par with the rest of the piece. Overall, though a compelling entry. Looking forward to seeing more.

xxrotinivol2
07-28-2010, 07:57 AM
This was a really interesting short. I loved a lot of the imagery, especially the key, and the shots of the boss on the phone. From your avatar, I presume your a Gilliam fan, and I can definitely see his influence in your style. Great characters as well. Some of the film was incoherent for me, and some shots and audio didn't seem on par with the rest of the piece. Overall, though a compelling entry. Looking forward to seeing more.

Jason, thank you for watching and commenting. Yep, love Gilliam (even Imaginarium which was mostly incoherent, lol, Tideland is too much even for me), but ya, first time working with the 5D, and I got sleepy or was seeing double or something, because there's just a couple shots that are off, I agree. But what can you do, other than re-look at your movie a week or two later with fresh eyes and have a billion great comments later and make this short better. Really liked Beans by the way, a lot. Simple, well shot, great story, comic, sad. Thanks man for your comments, great to hear your thoughts!

Homunculus
07-28-2010, 12:37 PM
I liked this one it was unique and fun to watch.

As others have said the actors/characters were the best/strongest thing about it. The story was interesting to see unravel as well. Loved that 'stone faced' indian guy lol.

Now the weaknesses I saw

a lot of over use of depth of field. Remember it's just a tool, doesn't mean every single shot needs to be super high DoF. It's a tool used only to train the eye onto something that you want them to be focusing on. But especially in the beginning the real shallow DoF was very distracting in a lot of the shots that should have used a wider lens.

In the middle sections like around 3:15 section I felt the white balance was off and everything was a bit too red/orange which gave it that video look.
Otherwise there was some nice shots and framing in there good job, this was one of the better entries in my most humble opinion.

Mobie540
07-29-2010, 09:20 AM
There's some nice lighting and the actor's did a great job. I especially like Fastwater and Big Al character's. Big Al has that old mafia personna to him, it's great. I'm not a technical guy but a story guy. I didn't understand the main character's motivation for stealing the case, greed I suppose and going to Chihuahua for some reason. Made it hard to relate. Also, not sure how Fastwater caught up with him, but I'll assume Fastwater is like Anton Chigurh, the ultimate badass. There are some comedic moments. I liked the cutting back and forth during the phone conversation, liked how you tweeked the audio there. Nice McGuffin with the case. Good job!

xxrotinivol2
07-29-2010, 11:21 PM
Homunculus, thank you for the comments. It is my first time shooting with a camera that gives me so many options, just wanted to find a good f-stop, and kinda stuck with it. Looking thru it now, I definitely see what you mean, and the next round of shooting I do will be more mindful of the DOF and when it's used, along with the lens, to really accentuate the important moments in the scene. I got a 35, 50, and an 85 to play with, probably should've done the 35 more often and lowered the f-stop to a 3 or a 4. Thank you for the positive comments, it was a fun short to make.


Mobie540, the main character's motivation: he had been a longstanding associate, he's stuck with two people he doesn't like, and he doesn't get the responsibility of carrying the briefcase. He feels betrayed by his boss, angered that he's not THE ONE to carry it, so he wants to take whatever is inside that briefcase and make money off it. He's curious and greedy. Fastwater tracks him, b/c Fastwater is following him the whole time, that's his job, to ensure that shipment gets to Big Al. Thank you for the comments!