Audio Sync

[EWS]

I am looking for a better work flow as far as syncing double system audio tracks from my zoom H4n in Premiere CS4 to my Gh1 clips.
I have no problem syncing to the slate claps, it's just after I have done that I would like to be able to replace the gh1 original audio with the new zoom audio track and move on. I tried on the last project to group the clips when moving or editing on the timeline but it seems they would not always stay grouped. I know there must be a simple way without having to sync and export a movie of each clip. Anyone have a good fast work flow method to simplify this?
Help appreciated.

[Blackout]

Bump. I need this info too. Also.. when recording to double system on th h4n... what has to be done to the audio after pulldown is removed in order to keep sync?

[dvbrother]

In the FCP Timeline, place your GH1 video on the Video track. Then place your H4N audio on the audio tracks. Sync them up (You've already done this part). But here's what you do next which will solve your problem:
Select both the video and audio in the timeline (highlight them so they turn brown), then hit Command-L to link them. You will see the clip names become underlined. Then drag this clip from the Timeline into the Browser. Voila! That new clip in the browser will be a synced clip. That's the way I've discovered and it works perfectly. I think the built-in Final Cut Help Manual may outline this method, too.

[dvbrother]

Blackout: You shouldn't have to do anything to the audio. It should still be in sync after pulldown has been removed.

[dvbrother]

Ooops. I just noticed you're in Premiere, not Final Cut Pro. Sorry. Well, if you ever use Final Cut, you now know how to sync double-system audio! :-) Maybe there's a similar way in Premiere?

[Blackout]

there is no drift caused by removing the extra frames from pulldown? I haven't done any longer form work with the gh1 on a pc yet... still toying with it just to get workflow going properly.

[EWS]

Right DV Brother...see that now that makes sense, and it seems that it should be real simple to make a new clip and stick it back it the bin. It is no real problem to sync and relink the audio to the clip, it is just after you have done that you can't easily save it as a clip in the bin because it just reverts to its original audio . The only way I have gotten this to work is just to make a new sequence. One other thing I have discovered in Premiere was to use the other numbered markers feature where you find your slate or clap and give it a numbered marker... say 0 then do the same on the H4n track and name it 0 as well then use the sync feature and select the markers/other numbered feature, lines right up.
I hope PluralEyes goes Premiere pretty soon.
Anyway thanks for the replies and happy syncing!

[DrDave]

No drift==I always put a clip marker on the five audio tracks (I use five usually), the clip marker stays with the clip, wherever it may go. The reason I do this is when I'm colorizing, sometimes when I select a clip it moves slightly, which is no biggie if I notice right away. Anyway, if there is any kind of problem the clip markers will line you right up.