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Edgen
10-31-2009, 11:28 AM
"Bits and Pieces"
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Nov 21, 2009
*winner*
"Bits and Pieces" places 2nd place (jury panelist vote) & 3rd Place DVXuser member vote




"Bits and Pieces"
*winner*
is officially in the top 13 finalists.
Voting ends Nov 20th, 2009

Film Download:
Download & Watch the film here:
http://www.dvxfest.com/monsterfest/index.php?id=3600637 (http://www.dvxfest.com/monsterfest/index.php?id=3600637)

Music .mp3 Download:
"Bits and Pieces - OST"
http://www.edgenmusic.com/edgen_bits_and_pieces.mp3 (http://www.edgenmusic.com/edgen_bits_and_pieces.mp3)

http://www.edgen.com/bitsandpieces/BitsAndPieces_Poster.jpg

Credits
Cast:
Aileen Davila as "LeeAnn"
David Collier as "The Mummy"
Nicholle Walton as "Florence"
Orphanage Girls: TBA

Crew:
Directed by: Justin R. Durban
Written by: Leah Weinberger
Director of Photography: John Hafner
Make Up: Jessica Isam
Production Designer: James McMahan
UPM: Sush Parmar
Set Owner: David L. Smith
PA: Elliot Cole
PA: Rochan
PA: Reuel Meditz
Edited, VFX & SFX by: by: Justin R. Durban
Music Score by: Justin R. Durban
Produced by: Leah Weinberger, John Hafner, & Justin R. Durban
Approved!
Enjoy the show...


Press & Reviews:
REVIEWS of the WINNERS, & THE TELL @ Horror Movie a Day by the enigmatic BC! (http://horror-movie-a-day.blogspot.com/2009/11/dvxuser-monsterfest-winners.html) :
http://horror-movie-a-day.blogspot.com/2009/11/dvxuser-monsterfest-winners.html (http://horror-movie-a-day.blogspot.com/2009/11/dvxuser-monsterfest-winners.html)

MONSTER FEST - during fest write up from Juror's perspective by Devi Snively! (http://www.deviantpictures.com/trippinmovie/juror-duty/) :
http://www.deviantpictures.com/trippinmovie/juror-duty/ (http://www.deviantpictures.com/trippinmovie/juror-duty/)

Lawrie's TOP 8!! Selection & Discussion (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1823166&postcount=1) :
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1823166&postcount=1
(also be sure to check out these films I also worked on for MonsterFest)
"Bits and Pieces"
(** 2nd place Jury Panel / 3rd Place member vote)
(**top 13 finalist)
(music/sound, vfx, edited, directed, produced)
Directed by: Justin R. Durban

"El Cucuy"
(music score)
Directed by: Amy O

"Polly"
(music score)
Directed by: Dustin Rogan

"Lisa"
(music score)
Directed by: Matthew Ramsaur

"Mercy"
(** 7th place Jury Panel / 10th Place member vote)
(*top 13 finalist)
(music score)
Directed by: Troy Ruff

"Dispatch"
(** 1st place Jury Panel / 1st Place member vote)
(*top 13 finalist)
(music score)
Directed by: Nobelo

"The Red and the Wolf"
(** 3nd place Jury Panel / 2nd Place member vote)
(*top 13 finalist)
(Featured Music)
Directed by: AJ Brooks

"One Percent"
(** 4th place Jury Panel / 6th Place member vote)
(*top 13 finalist)
(Special VFX only)
Directed by: Michael Anthony Horrigan



cheers!
/j

Edgen
10-31-2009, 11:29 AM
Stills from the Canon 7D - on the "Bits And Pieces" set:


(not necessarily from the film)


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1961


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1960

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1959


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1958

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1957

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1956

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1955

Edgen
10-31-2009, 11:29 AM
bts2

Part of our 1st set.. ended up scrapping it the next day. but, at least you can see how we set up the coke carton crates for the ceilings.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS01.JPG

Aileen getting her 'scar'
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS02.JPG


David Collier takes a break as John Hafner (DP) checks some stuff.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS03.JPG

Jessica Isam applies makeup to David Collier
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS04.JPG



The Attic shoot. We just got the location right before setting up lights. so we were scrambling to figure it out.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS06.JPG




John Hafner (DP), James McMahan (production designer), Elliot Cole (PA), & Jessica Isam (makeup) prepping the embalming scene.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS09.JPG

AmyO
10-31-2009, 11:32 AM
Finally! That is one awesome poster. Really looking forward to this, Justin.

Mood Niatrec
10-31-2009, 11:43 AM
Wow, that's such an awesome poster. Hope you got it in on time

Rodney V. Smith
10-31-2009, 12:16 PM
Dude this is so kick ass. Best poster of the fest.

And you used the dolly in this movie. I feel an ass-kicking coming our way...

Shaun Patrick
10-31-2009, 12:18 PM
Awesome. I was hoping you would jump in. I've always been a fan of your entries.

dust'n the callipygous
10-31-2009, 12:52 PM
awesome poster! looking forward to it

Marlon Ladd
10-31-2009, 01:15 PM
Poster is GREAT!! Hollywood ready!

jasonthewho
10-31-2009, 01:32 PM
Is that an original image just for this film? Cause... damn!

cinealma
10-31-2009, 01:34 PM
Very cool, Justin. Look forward to your stuff, as always. :thumbsup:

Edgen
10-31-2009, 01:42 PM
Thanks guys!!

Yes, the poster is an actual still from the movie.

I hope you guys will like it :)

cheers!
/j

Edgen
10-31-2009, 01:43 PM
well.. not a stil.. but an unused frame grab. Of course, enhanced a bit in photoshop :)

/j

Tom Marshall
10-31-2009, 01:47 PM
Hey J, good to see you join in! :beer:

Marlon Ladd
10-31-2009, 01:47 PM
It's very, very compelling.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-31-2009, 02:07 PM
About time you got this thread up! :)

Good luck in the Fest, Justin.

MAH

Sprocketboy
10-31-2009, 03:31 PM
Impressive poster. You have lots of talent. The imagery should be amazing in this short.

ramsaur
10-31-2009, 04:38 PM
Awesome poster man! Still can't wait to see the film!

johnhafner
10-31-2009, 05:47 PM
Woohoo! Glad we got it done.

We plan to post some frame grabs and stills straight out of the Canon 7d we used to shoot the whole thing.

What amazed me was how little we had to do in post to get this look. The 7d is really an amazing tool for cinema. I'd say 90% of the shots in this cut are straight out of the camera untouched. The next cut will likely have a full shot to shot color correction, but it was only really needed on the few shots where I under/overexposed or otherwise screwed up. :)

John Hafner
Director of Photography, Producer
'Bit's and Pieces'

dust'n the callipygous
10-31-2009, 05:52 PM
We plan to post some frame grabs and stills straight out of the Canon 7d we used to shoot the whole thing.

What amazed me was how little we had to do in post to get this look. The 7d is really an amazing tool for cinema. I'd say 90% of the shots in this cut are straight out of the camera untouched. The next cut will likely have a full shot to shot color correction, but it was only really needed on the few shots where I under/overexposed or otherwise screwed up. :)

That's awesome. I had hoped to shoot mine with the 7d, but I couldn't get it until the week after we shot. It really can do some great things. Certainly an upgrade from my hv20.

NOBELO
10-31-2009, 06:36 PM
Best poster I've seen. maybe in any fest

Mark Johnson
10-31-2009, 07:21 PM
Damn, this is truly a wonderful poster. Beautiful work, sir.

cinebuddy
10-31-2009, 07:38 PM
What's scary is that it's a screen grab...I mean sh*t how good is the movie gonna look??!!

Mark Johnson
10-31-2009, 08:56 PM
Stunningly well produced. Beautfully shot. Terrific script and what a nice performance you got from that little sweetheart.

.... and the score doesn't suck either :)

Bravo.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
10-31-2009, 09:53 PM
The production value was top notch for this one. The characters were believable and the little girl was spot on. The VFX were also quite good. I really got into your monster.

The music was great and seemed to fit this piece well, I'm not surprised. :)
The ending left me wanting a tad more but I like endings like that.

Seems like there was a lot of different people involved in this one. It really shows. Great improvement all around.

Cheers,

Mike

Herman Witkam
10-31-2009, 10:21 PM
The monster was great. I wish the fest would allow for a longer film, so that the characters could be explored more.

Score was awesome, as usual :)

mustardseed
10-31-2009, 10:21 PM
Wow, that was amazing. Great job! Very emotional movie

EditPhish
11-01-2009, 02:12 AM
Yours was one of the first ones we got to see... We must have hit "refresh" on the monsterfest page early on because we were downloading before anyone else, and yours was one of those we got before the admin/mods slapped up a "coming soon" page... (sorry mods/admins... we thought you were live!)...

You film looked REALLY good... the ambience and lighting were done really well, and the whole look of the film was simply amazing.

I liked the story for the first half, though the dreamy "lets play together" sequences seem to come off more campy than you wanted for the whole feel of the film.

I'm not sure I understood where it ended up going (until JTyner explained to me that the monster was a mummy and he mummified the girl at the end - if that's what you truly were saying). I think I liked the story better when you were going along the line of the little girl making HIM feel accepted... and I thought that's where it would go... but the story took a horrifying turn. Unexpected? Yes. Maybe that was good for some viewers, but I had hopes it would go somewhere else (call me sappy).

Something about it reminded me of "The Maxx" (for you comic book geeks out there)... that's not a criticism.

Music was excellent and the sound was really well done. The whole thing was just pulled together very professionally. My personal issues aside, it's one of the best in the batch. Big thumbs up for you!

ramsaur
11-01-2009, 02:16 AM
Dude Justin! That was just awesome!! I loved it! Everything was right on! The whole thing about taking place back then and how you got it all set up was really great. The acting was great! Specially with the young girl. I loved it all, the sets, costumes, camera work... Your sound fx, vfx, and the monster's voice was awesome! Awesome job man! Wish I could have helped out! Oh and of course... I loved the music too! There were some good cues at some cool points of the film I enjoyed. I especially liked the Monster's face. Very cool! His costume kind of reminded me of the monster's from "The Village".

But again.. over all I really enjoyed it!

MrFluffy
11-01-2009, 02:18 AM
I was very impressed with the lighting and camera work on this film. I was pulled in right to the end but the final scene lost its grip as the music was IMO too uplifting and not sinsiter enough for what the mummy was doing.

Very well done.

Cur
11-01-2009, 06:45 AM
Amazing. The shots, lighting and score were expertly crafted to deliver the feel of your film.

wicked awesome.

dust'n the callipygous
11-01-2009, 09:39 AM
Crazy good production value. The middle seemed a little cheesy with the two playing and a little of the mummy's dialog. Also didn't really care for the woman in the beginning. Seemed too movie typical. Oh, one more super-tiny thing that kinda bugged me: the shots from about 5:10 on, I felt should have been more drastic cuts when they quickly faded back in. A lot of the time they just looked like a continuation of the same tracking shot. Maybe more close-ups on what was around her and what was going on. I feel like I have to be overly-critical on the films I think are the best.

xxrotinivol2
11-01-2009, 10:08 AM
Man, what a beautifully shot and composed film. Music and sound were effective, and that little girl's acting worked great for me most of the time. You did an excellent job with the color. Cold dark orphanage set-up mixed with the warmth of the monster's layer did well for the subtext of the film. Reminded me of the look of a Devil's Backbone or Pan's Labyrinth.

My qualms: some of the dialogue wasn't effective for me. "No one is going to adopt you with a scar on your face," scene could've ended just with her saying don't talk about monsters. That line is so harsh, it feels unbelievable and unmotivated. "All the other children laugh and play, you do not, why is that?" or "You are a very special little girl," monster man's delivery on the lines is so stilted. I wanted there to be more tension in that scene, starting with the girl's resistance, moving to her acceptance of him. The montage also didn't work for me. Thought it would be cool if she stayed there awhile, the orphanage people can't find her, nights turn to days, etc. as opposed to the other material in the montage, which come across as heavy-handed to me.

I wished for another scene earlier where she sees the monster first to get her reaction. I'd like to see something develop more over time. More scenes and shorter scenes, which I know based on shooting schedules is difficult to incorporate more set-ups, but the character development has to be spelled out so much more since there are only two set-ups.

Maybe what I'm asking for is not accomplishable in 6 minutes. Maybe it is. It was great watching the film. I liked where it went, the ideas it incorporated, just wanted more variety, shown more things than told them. Thank you for submitting. Excellent, impressive work in an f-ton of aspects.

Marlon Ladd
11-01-2009, 11:35 AM
This was an excellent looking film. The lighting in the house/shack was great. You got a really good look out of that. I also liked the shots you chose and I thought your monster was great. I did however think and hope that this was going to be a different take on the monster genre. I thought it would've been great if the ending was the other outcome. That's just a personal opinion though. The girl did a great job and that was a great dolly pan on her in the attack. The acting early on was okay and I thought the pacing of the monster could have been slower, but other than that, good work - again!

sfoster
11-01-2009, 11:35 AM
What an amazing actress you had for that little girl. I was floored by her honesty in the role. I love finding great child actors. The lighting and shots were great I loved second half of the film contrasted the first half by being warm representing the love, whether it was morbid or not! This is my favorite of those I've downloaded so far!

Gord.T
11-01-2009, 12:52 PM
Possible spoilers.

Excellent. I thought the ending was going somewhere else than where it did. That was a surprise. I had to go back and view it a few more times. I found your DP's (John Hafner's) color choices interesting in that he began cold and warmed it up with the monster. Generally I'd expect it to be the other way around. In this case it really worked and I'm sure that's why I didn't see the ending coming so hat's off to John. And a great look by the way.

Everything else rocked as well. Great sound track also. Very nice.

I'm curious as to why you chose to have the first scene/act play out in a hallway, a tight space, and end in the bedroom, an open space? Was that purposefull?
Maybe it was more convenient but maybe there was a purpose to create more tension in the hallway?
That would have been hard to direct the camera I think, ideally, in such a tight space but it seemed to work out. Was that a conscious directing choice or 'other' choice?

Rodney V. Smith
11-01-2009, 01:29 PM
Good film dude. You always do such a great job on the setup, your shot choices and especially the story. Different ending from what I expected, but I think what I get most from the ending is that
****SPOILER ALERT***** she's going to be with him forever and it was a macabre kind of love***END SPOILER*****.

I hate to do this with such a good film, but one thing did stick out to me and I'm going back to the same thing I always come to: Dialog. The script was tight, but the dialog was too BIG, too arch. I understand for a monster as old as he is, his dialog would be more formal, but the stilted dialog can only come from someone who makes it really work. Not everyone can pull of "high speech". As it is it's not natural and flowing especially when it extends to other characters.

Good job with the movie. Enjoyable and well shot. NICE dolly moves by the way. :grin: As always I love your work.

kennethhurd
11-01-2009, 01:29 PM
Your film was beautiful. I loved how you chose to give the orphanage a cold tone while giving the monster's home warm tones. I was very surprised when the film took such a dark tone towards the end. Even though I was hoping that it wouldn't go that route, I did feel that you handled the transition well. Also, your monster was really well done. Good job!

jasonthewho
11-01-2009, 03:17 PM
The poster was so good for this, I think my expectations were a little high. As it is, there is still a lot to like in this. The monster is just fantastic, especially his costume. The lighting is great. And as previously mentioned, the little girl is quite good. And the score - duh, of course it's great.

I agree with some previous criticisms: such as the montage in the middle seeming cheesy (the patty-cake shot is probably the worst offender), and the end being a little confusing. The only thing I'll add is that the opening lower third title is misspelled "The Solider's Orphange For Girls" which I assume is supposed to say "The Soldier's Orphanage For Girls."

Great atmosphere though, and I really liked this take on a monster. Good job!

Denis Haineault
11-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Very beautiful picture. There are a few good child actors in this fest, and the little girl here is certainly one of them. I enjoyed how the short was setup where one might predict the ending, and instead, you went with a less conventional direction...I enjoy surprises, so kudos for that.

Overall, I enjoyed it very much.

mrcheapyasui
11-01-2009, 03:50 PM
What an emo monster haha he just wants a friend! But yea, the lighting and scenes were shot beautifully. I really liked the dolly zoom shot when she gets snatched. The monster costume was awesome, but my suggestion would have been to add more tension. Right away the monster just starts chatting with her, and then I wasn't scared of him. I suppose you weren't trying to make that kind of a movie, but with such a great monster costume I wanted to be scared by him!!

But ya great movie!

ramsaur
11-01-2009, 07:04 PM
Two things I noticed when watching again.
At 5:28 - 5:33 you have a dolly shot moving then it stops for a moment then picks back up moving. Was that meant to happen?

And at 3:21 when the monster says, "You are very special" it made me chuckle because his voice almost reminded me of Yoda from Star Wars heh

Charli
11-01-2009, 07:53 PM
This was beautifully filmed absolutely no question about it. The girl was very good as a little actor she did such a good believable job and it didn't feel recited.

I had a little trouble with the monster and his dialogue which I know was probably done on purpose but it sounded so story-book-prose. I would have liked to have heard something a little bit more original may be in how he put words together. I dunno, to be that was one of the drawbacks of story.

The cinematography was beautiful though, the music was beautiful, the thoughtfulness behind the monster was beautifully done, the friendship was adoring and while I knew how it was going to end, I did like that you used the shadow and not the actual person.

This is definitely a contender for the top spot.

AJ Brooks
11-01-2009, 08:23 PM
Excellent short!

Your little actress was amazing! I love these innocent and honest performances that children can give.

Successfully creeped me out with your monster.

Something I can see Guillermo del Toro directing. Fabulous work.

You get high rating from me. Best luck!

Blaine
11-01-2009, 09:28 PM
That was a dark story...

I loved the color palette used on this and I liked where you took the story.

I was concerned in the beginning that with the use of the "child in jeopardy" you might be going for the low hanging fruit but you really handled it well. Aileen was quite a find as her acting seemed very natural. This had a weird "Beauty and the Beast" quality to it that was endearing and terrifying at the same time...a modern faerie tale...

Good job, Justin.

EDIT: Forgot to mention it, but this is easily the best thing I've seen from you!

Chris_Keaton
11-01-2009, 09:30 PM
I just loved this film. It was the kind of dark I really enjoy. The story of simple, but deep. Does that make sense? Who cares I'm saying it anyway. This is easily in my top ten. Fantastic job!

Zim
11-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Really good job on the monster. Nice work

Kellar42
11-01-2009, 11:02 PM
Amazing stuff!

Brandon Rice
11-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Justin!

By far your best work ever, and my favorite of this fest so far. Good performances, and a scary monster to boot! Children in peril (especially when one doesn't expect it) is always a fright.

Great music of course :) you're a master. This is the first short you've done where I really had no cheesy moments for me. Seriously this was excellent work!

One question as I go... How did you do the monster face?

Great again Justin, thanks! :)

Norm Sanders
11-02-2009, 12:36 AM
Justin, I've always admired your work, especially how you can do SO many things from directing/producing, to composing (your strongest & original forte), post visual FX, etc ... but, I've never given your film a 10 rating before, as I've always found weaknesses I felt could be improved in one area or another.

But, not this time, my friend. 10 stars. I've only started to watch the films, but the way I'm judging these is each on their own merit, not compared to another, and this film rocked me on so many levels.

When I first started watching it, I was immediately impressed with the child actor. Camera movements, the adult actress, setting, everything was pro. As the film continued to unfold, I was further intrigued by the monster, the voice, the speech patterns you chose for it, etc. GREAT mask when we finally see the reveal, and WOW was I caught off guard by the kill scene as well. A bitter sweet for the monster, I'm sure.

At first I questioned if there was too much music for the sake of music at the beginning, but it so quickly grew on me and really helped to drive the moments thereafter.

Lastly, nice touch with the Egyptian embalming jars in the end ... I immediately knew what the hook on the stick was for, lol.

This film SO perfectly fit the fest, and was executed incredibly well on SO many levels. Kudos to you on your best work ever! I would LOVE to get a HD copy of this one! Thanks for making such a wonderful piece. :)

cinealma
11-02-2009, 12:42 AM
Absolutely stunning to look at. And of course, it sounded great. A beautiful film to watch.

The large number of fade-ins/outs made it feel less cohesive, almost like I was watching parts of a bigger film. With the title of the film, that may have been your intent, no sure.

I loved the story, but I think it needed some tweaking for it to become fully realized. And it's one of those ideas that probably needs a LOT more than 5 or 6 minutes to pull off. Hard to connect to the girl and the monster in that time, and I think you really need to have that audience connection with these two characters in order to get the impact you were going for.

You definitely have the craft, brother. And it's very hard for an artist to create art when he is shackled to a canvas, if you know what I mean.

Nice work. Thanks for sharing and keep on rockin'!

Edgen
11-02-2009, 09:28 AM
Thank you so much everybody for the kind words and crits.

I'm glad most of you got the fact that the mummy does what a "Monster Does" and was only thinking for himself when he killed her. Mummification for eternal life. It's bitter sweet ya know?

Our production designer out did himself with the sets and canopic jars. John Hafner (who was actually one of my Lead actors in my last QuestFest film, "Mahlen" did a wonderful job with the look and keeping it consistent throughout. we didn't have to CC much at all in post. And of course Leah Weinberger has an odd and twisted mind which I love in her writing. The simple idea of ... "Who's the monster in this film? Is it the girl with the mangled face? The Orphange lady who's mean and cold? (my wife who was also in my last film, "Mahlen") or was it actually the Mummy?

I'm hoping the "Festival Cut" will have more of the character arcs as I had to cut 1.5 minutes of the film. the cut elements helped to establish the relationship between the girl and mummy but we as a team are overall very happy with the end product. I'm so glad you guys took the time to watch our film.

All the best and keep the critiques coming!
/j

ZazaCast
11-02-2009, 09:37 AM
Justin... what can I say, it was the first movie I watched and right from the start I was blown away! ( now I'm really glad I didn't get my film done for this one)

The look, the sound (of course), the feel, everything just clicked for me from the first frame to the last. It was great to see a 7D film. I thought the lighting was just beautiful and, to me, it felt like a Disney-type production...VERY professional all around.

All the acting worked for me and if I had anything to say at all, there was just one line that bugged me...."you break my heart" from the monster. At first I thought this one DID have a heart but realized he didn't once he was going at her with the brain hook!

Really, Really great job to all involved (both the Movie & Poster). This gets the highest rating.

NOBELO
11-02-2009, 01:07 PM
Awesome work Justin. That monster was sweet and I'm glad you showed his face. Did you do that in AE? I'd like to know more about how you did that effect.

I echo a lot of what others have said: looked great, sweet prod design, great music (of course!) and nice direction. The little girl rocked and the ending was a total surprise. I will say that I wasn't sure how I felt about the ending but I think it might be growing on me. the patty cake thing was a slight issue but not a sticking point. Overall nice job man. This should do very well in this fest.

Rodney V. Smith
11-02-2009, 01:12 PM
. Overall nice job man. This should do very well in this fest.

Hell this will do well in ANY fest. It's a freaking gorgeous film and effective through and through. There is a longer version as well and I'm sure we'll all love to see that version, so hook us up at some point Justin.

MOVIE MASTER
11-02-2009, 05:40 PM
great film. great look and sound you really, really have talent great job.

if their is a longer version as well and I'm sure we'll all love to see that version, so hook us up at some point Justin.
same here

Chris_Keaton
11-02-2009, 05:46 PM
I was impressed by the fact that you found and used canopic jars, nice touch. A depressing ending, just like I like 'em.

Troy Ruff
11-02-2009, 06:35 PM
Justin that was great! I don't know how you do it, your score like 5 or 6 films in this fest, and still do your own movie, that is some hard work and dedication. I love the use of color in your film, the score was spot on as expected. The little girl was fantastic and the location was great as well. The sad ending took me by surprise but I love it. Most of my films everyone dies, I don't know why I just like it that way. :) Great job man, defiantly one of my top 5. Also thanks again for doing a great score for me.

AmyO
11-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Justin,
Great film. Beautifully shot. I loved the warm golden tones in the mummy's house. And the little girl was absolutely adorable. (I'm a bit miffed I no longer have the market cornered on cute kids - j/k). Wonderful attention to detail in the costumes, set dressing, props. Your films just keep getting better. I'm sure this one will go on to round two! :)

Sprocketboy
11-02-2009, 08:37 PM
Beautiful looking short film and the story is awesome to boot. The little girl gave a hell of a performance. Talented children are hard to come by. I am truly impressed. I only had one problem, it is the voice of the Mummy. It sounds like a muppet or Yoda on Valium. Its a personal thing. It didn't hurt the message or the story. The art direction is top-notch.

johnhafner
11-02-2009, 08:43 PM
Two things I noticed when watching again.
At 5:28 - 5:33 you have a dolly shot moving then it stops for a moment then picks back up moving. Was that meant to happen?

And at 3:21 when the monster says, "You are very special" it made me chuckle because his voice almost reminded me of Yoda from Star Wars heh

My bad the dolly was acting up that take, but it was one of a few takes that had the fly in so I think that is why it was chosen.

Maybe here is another cause:
Day one of shooting, 4 hours behind schedule.
Justin D.
"Have you built the dolly yet?"

John (me, D.P.)
"Uh, no I'm still messing with the lights"
....
"yeah ok I'll whip it up real quick."

lyonfilms
11-02-2009, 10:03 PM
Very beautiful. Especially the light in the Mummy's liar. The sound design and score was perfect as well. SPOILER ******* the moment the Mummy lashes out at the girl and we see the stake (or bone, or whatever) impale her and we see her shadow slump and hear the sligh sound of a cry or air escaping from her lungs for the last time - was really nice.

The little girl really did a great job. The Mummy's voice was so-so for me. Didn't hate it but it didn't feel quite right either. I felt the section when he first gets her back and they are talking was a bit awkward, but not a big deal.

Did you shoot on the 7D? Did I read that earlier?

Sush
11-02-2009, 10:25 PM
Awesome work Justin & John! 7D rocks! :) Thanks everyone for the lovely comments.

-Sush
UPM
'Bits & Pieces'

dr1x
11-02-2009, 10:57 PM
Justin, You and John and Leah and everyone involved in this project should be very proud. I only wish I could have been of more help. From the looks of it, I would have simply enjoyed learning from you guys.

Great job!!

:nads:

johnhafner
11-02-2009, 11:08 PM
Some stills from the 7d we shot this on.



http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1963



http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1961


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1960

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1959


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1958

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1957

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1956

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=316&pictureid=1955

johnhafner
11-02-2009, 11:10 PM
Yes we shot on the 7d and various prime lenses.

Edgen
11-02-2009, 11:12 PM
Day one of shooting, 4 hours behind schedule.
Justin D.
"Have you built the dolly yet?"

John (me, D.P.)
"Uh, no I'm still messing with the lights"
....
"yeah ok I'll whip it up real quick."

Ha!!!

or another: (about 5-10 minutes after the previous convo: )

me:
"John!"

john:
"What?"

me:
"what are you doing?"

john:
"Making a skateboard dolly..."

me:
"Wtf? LIGHTS! Lights! get those lights up! Don' worry about the skateboard dolly!"

:nads:


/j

Matty_g
11-03-2009, 12:01 AM
What was your lighting set up like for the mummy stuff?

johnhafner
11-03-2009, 12:15 AM
What was your lighting set up like for the mummy stuff?


Mummy 'House'
For the key light 'window' We had 1 Softbox with 5 42w Daylight 5500k CFL's with 3 layers of half cto and 1 250 diffusion. I added or removed gels and diffusion to set the time of day. My initial plan was to try and angle the light but that was abandoned due to time contraints.

For the fill I had a 6 bank kinoflo diva light knockoff that was CTOed and diffused with at least 10 layers. And half the time it was pointed away or at the ceiling.

The texture lighting was created by 1-2 650w open faced hotdamn lights that love to burn the hell out of me. We shot those through a ceiling made of black plastic coke bottle crates, and it make the most amazing complex textures on the walls. I borrowed the 650 kit and it came with no scrims so I creative use of a $2 walmart sunshade.

Matty_g
11-03-2009, 12:23 AM
10 layer of diffusion?! Damn. What diffusion?

johnhafner
11-03-2009, 12:28 AM
10 layer of diffusion?! Damn. What diffusion?

Ah no a bunch of CTO and 1 -2 diffusion

Dauntless
11-03-2009, 06:06 PM
This was amazing! ... I loved it.. I really liked the golden light that came through the window in the monsters shack.... The little girl's acting was great... Nice story, I didn't see that ending coming... great job, one of the best for monsterfest.

Leah
11-03-2009, 08:14 PM
Thank you guys very much. I am glad you lilked our short. Film is so much fun, so many textured layers to tell a story. The color and fantastic lighting conveyed a wonderful mood. (DP John Hafner) The monsters makeup (Jess Isam) one creative chick! (Ask us what she made the mask out of? You will never in a million years guess) Aileen was a dream kid of course, great actor. David Collier whose body language in a ton of costuming conveyed kindness and sadness and tons of other stuff. James's amazing hand crafted canopic jars. Nicole's delivery of her lines and frost face, brrr. So many people came together (eep sorry to the ones I haven't mentioned) and worked to do this and to do it well, but the one person I really want to shout out to is Justin Durban. Reading this thread apparently most of you know him as a composer. I watched Justin Direct. He has the eye and the gift. As a writer we are taught that when you give your script out say bye-bye. Chances are you will stand helplessly on the sideline as it is ruthlessly butchered. No so with Justin. I have rarely been in such a collaborative partnership that was so comfortable and so focused on getting the story out in it's truest form. It was amazing. The absolute best thing I can say about him is that not only does Justin create amazing and original work but he is secure enough in his own gifts to allow other artist's to create as well. Keep watching him..he is going to go far. BTW I am Leah of the odd and twisted writerly mind. Thanks guys...:-Happy(DBG):

Maximus
11-03-2009, 08:33 PM
Your film looked and sounded great. Production design was very impressive, and I've come to expect that from you. The monster costume was very well done (my favorite part). The cg face was well executed, but I wonder if it would have been better to leave it unseen.

The murder was shocking and unexpected. I felt sad for the little girl. Darn monsters.

Great job. :beer:

Geoff_R
11-03-2009, 08:50 PM
The opening scene is well done. Visually I'm drawn in and you've got good shots, good production design here with the location and all.. music is spot on... nice and subtle... location sound audio seems to be a little under par though, the dialogue doesn't sound smooth to me. I feel like the mic was too far away or the space itself just lent way to much echo into the recording. This aspect is the only thing that initially caught my attention from a production quality standpoint.

Lighting and production design are very well done in the monster location. Lots of nice subtlety here and I can see the underlying work and effort that went into the shots and setup. The monster is a nice blend of practical and CG and the most well done effects in the fest IMO.

The story and dialogue didn't click with me all that well. It's just not up my alley and that's purely subjective taste. I can still appreciate what you set out to achieve with the piece. From that perspective, it seems like you accomplished what you intended to during the production. The film feels mature and complete. And this is certainly the most solid work I've seen from you. Thanks for sharing man.

Edgen
11-03-2009, 09:02 PM
Thank you guys very much. I am glad you lilked our short. Film is so much fun, so many textured layers to tell a story. The color and fantastic lighting conveyed a wonderful mood. (DP John Hafner) The monsters makeup (Jess Isam) one creative chick! (Ask us what she made the mask out of? You will never in a million years guess) Aileen was a dream kid of course, great actor. David Collier whose body language in a ton of costuming conveyed kindness and sadness and tons of other stuff. James's amazing hand crafted canopic jars. Nicole's delivery of her lines and frost face, brrr. So many people came together (eep sorry to the ones I haven't mentioned) and worked to do this and to do it well, but the one person I really want to shout out to is Justin Durban. Reading this thread apparently most of you know him as a composer. I watched Justin Direct. He has the eye and the gift. As a writer we are taught that when you give your script out say bye-bye. Chances are you will stand helplessly on the sideline as it is ruthlessly butchered. No so with Justin. I have rarely been in such a collaborative partnership that was so comfortable and so focused on getting the story out in it's truest form. It was amazing. The absolute best thing I can say about him is that not only does Justin create amazing and original work but he is secure enough in his own gifts to allow other artist's to create as well. Keep watching him..he is going to go far. BTW I am Leah of the odd and twisted writerly mind. Thanks guys...:-Happy(DBG):

Thank you Leah.

*blushes*

killacam
11-04-2009, 03:06 AM
yeah nice production value and costume on the monster. top 3 so far from me fer shure.

Kevin E. Curry
11-04-2009, 11:06 AM
Really great look/feel on this film. I liked the pacing, the lighting etc. was outstanding. Nice work on the monster and great make-up for the little girl's scar.

POTENTIAL SPOILERS....

One part that stood out for me that I didn't like was the "play" sequence in the middle with the monster and little girl. It came really close to feeling campy which took me out of the mood of this sweet little monster and sweet little girl. That sweet mood is necessary for the payoff at the end to really be shocking.

Speaking of which, about 2 mins before then end I was thinking "he better not kill the little girl", which meant you were doing your job right and drawing me in. So the killing wasn't unexpected for me, but it did kind of piss me off! So, again, you did your job!

Nice work.

Mike Manning
11-04-2009, 12:20 PM
I Love it... Credits himself with the Music before all else...

Hey man, though I haven't watched many of these yet, I can already this ones a winner. It was wonderful all around.. as many others have said.

If I had to nitpick, and I feel I must because I gave the film a 9 instead of a 10.... for me the film got off to a rocky start. The sound isn't so great in the opening, the lighting's pretty flat (especially compared to how beautiful it is in the monster's lair), and the woman scolding the girl is a little over the top.

It must be noted that working with children is EXTREMELY difficult and a potential for disaster. Aileen certainly pulled her weight in this film and you got a great performance out of her. With that said, it's also important that the adult actors on screen with children are giving their best as well, and not trying to coach or lead the child through the scene. To me, that was difference between the two adult actors in the film... The woman seemed to be leading Aileen to help evoke her reaction, whereas the Monster was actually acting with her. The dynamic between these two is what drew me in after the rocky start and led to me jumping back when the monster finally revealed himself.

Great stuff!

Edgen
11-05-2009, 09:08 AM
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/B&P_storyboard_03.jpg


http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/B&P_storyboard_04.jpg

http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/B&P_storyboard_10.jpg

Edgen
11-05-2009, 09:09 AM
and some BTS photos:

Part of our 1st set.. ended up scrapping it the next day. but, at least you can see how we set up the coke carton crates for the ceilings. James McMahan tieing the crates. Justin is supervising.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS01.JPG

Aileen getting her 'scar'
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS02.JPG


David Collier takes a break as John Hafner (DP) checks some stuff.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS03.JPG

Jessica Isam applies makeup to David Collier
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS04.JPG


David Collier progresses...
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS05.JPG

The Attic shoot. We just got the location right before setting up lights. so we were scrambling to figure it out.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS06.JPG

Jessica Isam (makeup) and David Collier (mummy)
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS07.JPG


David Collier caught with his hood down.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS08.JPG


John Hafner (DP), James McMahan (production designer), Elliot Cole (PA), & Jessica Isam (makeup) prepping the embalming scene.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS09.JPG

Applying some blooooood to Aileen
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS10.JPG

EditPhish
11-05-2009, 09:30 AM
Enjoy the behind the scenes stuff :)

Your story boards are much better than ours LOL

Troy Ruff
11-05-2009, 09:34 AM
[QUOTE=Edgen;1803175]and some BTS photos:

Part of our 1st set.. ended up scrapping it the next day. but, at least you can see how we set up the coke carton crates for the ceilings.
http://edgenmusic.com/BitsAndPieces/bts/BitsAndPieces_BTS01.JPG

What a great idea for the ceiling, it looked so good, so did you through some small lights in the ceiling with it? To help produce the light rays.

Edgen
11-05-2009, 09:45 AM
What a great idea for the ceiling, it looked so good, so did you through some small lights in the ceiling with it? To help produce the light rays.

Huh? :)


Yes.. we through a few lights through the tops and added some smoke to give the light rays. We used twisty ties to put them all together. Once it was hung up, we found a bunch of dead grass and weeds to hang from the ceiling.

Horncastle
11-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Every one of your films has been better than the previous one and this is the best yet. Nice little story, great young actress, beautiful use of light and colour, wonderful score - nothing bad to say really. Excellent job.

johnhafner
11-05-2009, 06:21 PM
According to the first frame in storyboard, the woman was originally meant to be an "Elf" :)

Troy Ruff
11-05-2009, 06:38 PM
Huh? :)


Yes.. we through a few lights through the tops and added some smoke to give the light rays. We used twisty ties to put them all together. Once it was hung up, we found a bunch of dead grass and weeds to hang from the ceiling.

sweet that worked beautifully. I love the color and lighting through the whole film. Great set design, very creative. Great job.

Shawn Philip Nelson
11-05-2009, 09:34 PM
Justin! Wow, definitely a solid film here and your best yet, I was very impressed with the story, production value and direction. Good job also on the child actor, that is difficult!

The mummy costume and production design worked exceptionally well.

What didnt work as well is the dialogue, there's too much of it for me, I think you'd find a lot less is more, mostly from the mummy.

Looking forward to seeing more from you!

DarkMatter
11-05-2009, 10:45 PM
There are so many great things to say about your film from the poster, to the storyline, to the set design, to the final product. I loved the Frankenstein Monster, lonely, deformed, and needing companionship from someone in a similar situation. This created an interesting dynamic between the two characters. The end through me for a loop because I didn't understand why he needed to kill her for her to remain with him? Was he going to kill her anyway? Would she return to life in a similar state as he is in? These things escaped me.. Maybe you could elaborate for me. :) If you already explained this I appologize I have very little time with school to go through all the threads. Thanks!

TMerry
11-06-2009, 02:14 AM
I really liked this, another great find. The girl was amazing, the music was fantastic. I can't believe you did so many scores for other films last moth too. Guessing that's your day gig?

The canon 7D looked great, impressive looks.
The only thing I did not care for was the montage of the little girl and the monster playing. I'm not sure how else this exposition could be handled during a 6 minute film, but it took me out of the diegesis of the film during ite.

Truly heart warming moments and a BIG surprise Kill!!

Nice work, Sincerely!

Edgen
11-06-2009, 09:55 AM
There are so many great things to say about your film from the poster, to the storyline, to the set design, to the final product. I loved the Frankenstein Monster, lonely, deformed, and needing companionship from someone in a similar situation. This created an interesting dynamic between the two characters. The end through me for a loop because I didn't understand why he needed to kill her for her to remain with him? Was he going to kill her anyway? Would she return to life in a similar state as he is in? These things escaped me.. Maybe you could elaborate for me. :) If you already explained this I appologize I have very little time with school to go through all the threads. Thanks!

Thank you movie stunts..

Yes, in the mummification process, the egyptians (amongst other cultures) believed that if you saved all the body parts of a human, they would be able to use those parts again in their afterlife. So, in a sense, the mummy is selfish in that the girl will live forever with him. So he does what a Monster does and kills her. We contemplated having another small shot of a 'mummy girl' rising up at the very end to show that she's still alive, but we figured we can just let the audience make their own conclusions. (or perhaps a shot of a wrapped arm and fingers and have her move slightly to show that she's now alive.)

Thanks again everyone for watching!

:2vrolijk_08:

Charli
11-06-2009, 10:17 AM
Less is more, don't over complicate the ending. Trust the audience to figure it all out in the end. The ending is just fine!

Rodney V. Smith
11-06-2009, 10:21 AM
Leave the ending as is. It's perfect. I got the mummification process immediately and understood his intent so it was rather sweet and poignant... and yes selfish. I don't know how much you should really spell out for audiences, but any fixes there should be in what he says. He refers to her bits and pieces... maybe sometihing about his own bits and pieces as well? Together forever.

He could have left his heart in San Antonio for all we know.... :grin: get it? get it?

Mark T. Aro
11-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Justin... BEAUTIFUL FILM... one little continuity hiccup for me (water heater) I quickly forgot about it though. Other than that FAN FRIGGIN TASTIC. The music is of course... wonderful... the look of the film was truly breathtaking. I loved the lighting trick... very clever. Please give props to your team for a really well executed film!

chris f
11-06-2009, 07:19 PM
Congrats man. At first I didn't know what to think, but as the movie moved on I got more hooked into the story. The acting/make-up/effects on the monster was awesome!

alex whitmer
11-06-2009, 10:28 PM
Stunning visually. Had me watching every corner of the film for details, all of which worked. One very fine example of attention to set design.

Your lighting person and set designer deserve pizza for life.

Great acting on the girl. The matron felt like one of those off-the-shelf characters and could have been more originally portrayed. Monster very cool, but also very robotic in his delivery. Voice a bit affectatious.

Love the ending.

Very cool film.

alex

Darkline
11-07-2009, 06:02 AM
Hey Justin,

Again a great film. You've really been working on your visuals in the last few fests and fusing it with storytelling.

I was a bit of a thickie and I had to come to your thread to get the ending (I didnt realise what he was doing to her). But when I read the responses I realised it was just me being stupid and I should have got it on first viewing.

It's in my top 3, well done.

PaPa
11-07-2009, 08:10 AM
damn man, that was one beautiful done piece of video. I absolutely loved your work in this project. I would really love to hear a little bit about the effects used for the face of the mummy? How is that process done?

Robert Eldon
11-07-2009, 03:27 PM
Justin,

Very nice! Your films just get better and better. One of the things that I really liked about this was that your poster (awesome poster by the way) set up some expectations about the film, and the images from the film satisfied those expectations. They did not disappoint. Too many times, I've seen a really cool poster from filmmakers, only to be disappointed by a poorly made film.

So you're working with kids again :) and the acting was really good. I appreciate being able to see the 'monster' for so much of the film. That was very well done and kept all of the shots interesting.

I did NOT expect the twist (pun intended?) and was genuinely shocked when it happened. I think I exclaimed out loud , "Oh God". :) and spilled by tea.

This film had a great story arc and I was engrossed the entire time. There were beautiful images, especially with the monster and the girl at his lair, and some nice camera movement. I loved the locations and the lighting.

Did you enjoy working with everyone? That's how I enjoy making films, with that kind of collaboration. I wish I could have been there. :) Congratulations to your team!

This film was a nice surprise (I didn't know that you were entering this fest) and very well made from story to cinematography, costuming to acting. Very well done! :thumbsup:

joshreluctant
11-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I really liked the way it was shot. But it kind of fell flat for me as soon as they started their long dialogue. It's not necessarily bad, it's just that I was expecting something different from the previous scenes, and then all of a sudden I felt like I had changed the channel. Looks great, sounds great. Great entry.

Lawsuit_Boy
11-07-2009, 06:59 PM
This was a rather touching film. The banishing of the "liar" girl whose face is badly scarred works as an excellent catalyst for the story's moral thread. The film generates a comfortable intimacy between the monster and the girl. It's interesting to see a "monster" film twist the genre to develop grounds for solidarity between the protagonist and the monster. This has been done in a vast number of films, but your take on it is very gentle and affectionate. The film also works as a social commentary on the stigmatization of those who don't quite measure up to idealized beauty or high, often-times unattainable levels of "moral" values promulgated by overly devout theists who lose their sense of humanity over banal sacred rituals and codes.

As I digress, I should really get back to the film itself. The cinematography is very strong. I like the soft, not too blatant contrast between the cold, isolated atmosphere of the orphanage attic and the warm, inviting monster's den. There are small things I could "nitpick," but it really would end up being just a difference in aesthetic taste. I really thought the film looked wonderful.

There are times when the acting dips into stiffness and rises into exaggerated performance, but as a whole, the performances were very believable. The young girl did a fine job carrying her weighted scenes and the woman was very cold and menacing. The monster was performed very well physically, and even though I understand and sort of agree that the voice might resemble pop-icon characters, we must remember that this film is certainly geared toward children. They would definitely respond well to the voice.

The sound design was very solid. Levels were mixed well and I didn't catch anything that really stood out; nothing that I thought shouldn't really be there. For the kind of film you shot, things just made sense.

The last portion of the film was quite shocking. Not entirely sure what I think of it. I'm pretty tired and since the ending left me with a lot to say, I'll just leave that for another time.

anyway, really strong film. Enjoyable viewing. :thumbsup:

Lawsuit_Boy
11-07-2009, 07:20 PM
Also, I can't believe I forgot to mention the make-up/wardrobe! Really excellent work there. A tremendous amount of detail was attached to the monster. The girl's scars were quite natural as well.

Gary Sconce
11-07-2009, 10:35 PM
That was wonderful... And, as expected, the music was perfectly suited for the production. I am not sure if anyone caught it, but "Solider's Orphange" was interesting... Did you mean "Soldier's Orphanage"?

You need to know that the possible misspelling in no way detracted from the film... but I would correct it before sending it to any festivals. Also, next time you may want to consider blocking light from a window from the outside of the window and not with a black cloth folded and attached inside. I noticed it as an unnatural addition to the room of the little girl.

I am VERY impressed by your lighting. Wow! Acting from the little girl was great!

Top three for sure!

Scott Lovejoy
11-08-2009, 01:03 PM
I'm wondering what your thoughts on the 7d are after making this film. I'd love to see a less compressed version, but even at <50MB it still looks gorgeous. What are your thoughts on the workflow and how the camera performed?

Edgen
11-08-2009, 01:34 PM
and the music if anyone would like to have a full mp3 copy :)

"Bits and Pieces - OST"
http://www.edgenmusic.com/edgen_bits_and_pieces.mp3



Scott, in terms of workflow on the 7d.. the .mov files straight from the 7d were choppy as hell. We had to convert them to avi's.. I can't remember the conversion tool we used, but it gave it a more washed out color. I prefer the sharper original versions but editing was a beast. I'm not about to spend another 4k for an expense paper weight with FinalCut.

Otherwise, John knew his camera in and out and was whipping through iso's and apatures. i tried to keep up, but gave up and focused on other things.


i'm curious everyone that's seen the film... It seems the 'montage' sequence was a weak moment for many of you. Was it just jarring to come out of nowhere, the over the top disney music, or... Too many fades and dissolves? what could make this transistion better? We are going to put a few more scenes in the final that we had to cut for time constraints so i'm curious to see if those will make a difference.

Thoughts or suggestions?

cheers!
/j

Lawsuit_Boy
11-08-2009, 01:55 PM
i'm curious everyone that's seen the film... It seems the 'montage' sequence was a weak moment for many of you. Was it just jarring to come out of nowhere, the over the top disney music, or... Too many fades and dissolves? what could make this transistion better? We are going to put a few more scenes in the final that we had to cut for time constraints so i'm curious to see if those will make a difference.

Thoughts or suggestions?

cheers!
/j

To me, the biggest problem faced by this sequence is a result of such a constrained time limit. It's difficult to pack a story with as many deep currents as yours into such a small window of time, especially when you want to show the two growing as friends and enjoying time together. At this point, there are very few options besides doing a simple dissolve montage to show time passing and their friendship growing. I suppose you could single out just a few occasions and just do some elliptical cutting with a little extra dialogue and shoot the scene from more objective POVs; to sort of establish that time has passed and they've begun participating in activities together. The activities and dialogue could eventually lead into the monster's "decision" to take her to a better place.

Just an initial thought. It really is a time issue that must be dealt with. The "disney" music you mention does sit a little heavy after ingestion. And during my review, I mentioned that it felt like a children's film, but the brutal element toward the end does seem to negate this notion a little.

It's a tough call.

Kegan
11-08-2009, 02:00 PM
I heard great things about this little short and I had a bit of time, so I took a look at it. Absolutely fantastic. I was drawn into the story and I think you produced a beautiful piece of work.

Congratulations,

Kegan

Edgen
11-08-2009, 05:43 PM
To me, the biggest problem faced by this sequence is a result of such a constrained time limit. It's difficult to pack a story with as many deep currents as yours into such a small window of time, especially when you want to show the two growing as friends and enjoying time together. At this point, there are very few options besides doing a simple dissolve montage to show time passing and their friendship growing. I suppose you could single out just a few occasions and just do some elliptical cutting with a little extra dialogue and shoot the scene from more objective POVs; to sort of establish that time has passed and they've begun participating in activities together. The activities and dialogue could eventually lead into the monster's "decision" to take her to a better place.

Just an initial thought. It really is a time issue that must be dealt with. The "disney" music you mention does sit a little heavy after ingestion. And during my review, I mentioned that it felt like a children's film, but the brutal element toward the end does seem to negate this notion a little.

It's a tough call.

Thank you Jon... Definitely some stuff to consider for the longer cut. Maybe gradually bring the dissolve fades in and not force to much too soon. Maybe one long cut of them developing their relationship, and slowly bring in scene after scene.

We'll see. it's Just a pain to go back and re-score/sound FX a 'un-locked' cut of a film. It drives me nuts when directors change picture after i've scored their film. The software is just not conducive or perhaps there's just too many other things to worry about and to do.

Keep the crits coming folks.. I appreciate you all stopping in and watching our film.

Cheers!
/j

morbidodyssey
11-08-2009, 11:07 PM
Thought it looked good, and you pulled a good performance out of the child actor. But to be honest the story kind of lost me once the dialogue got going. But from a technical and direction standpoint, great work.

Chris Messineo
11-09-2009, 07:26 AM
Great film. I really enjoyed this a lot. Wonderful performances. Well done.

Susanne G.
11-09-2009, 10:07 AM
I like your film. A very touching story. Especially I love how the monster was created and that the monster has emotions.

Susanne

Scott Lovejoy
11-09-2009, 10:47 AM
Scott, in terms of workflow on the 7d.. the .mov files straight from the 7d were choppy as hell. We had to convert them to avi's.. I can't remember the conversion tool we used, but it gave it a more washed out color. I prefer the sharper original versions but editing was a beast. I'm not about to spend another 4k for an expense paper weight with FinalCut.



I'm not sure I followed the last part. Are you saying you didn't use FCP, but if you had a computer with it you wouldn't have had the choppy *.mov files?

Edgen
11-09-2009, 11:19 AM
Yes, Final Cut Pro could easily handle the files on a mac. But, the PC just couldn't keep up. yes, yes.. laugh up you mac people. But, once we converted the files to .avi, it worked just fine.

I edited the film in Vegas9, but we are having issues exporting at 32bit, so we may have to re-edit the film with premiere just for the CC purposes. uggg.

Gord.T
11-09-2009, 01:52 PM
re: http://www.edgenmusic.com/edgen_bits_and_pieces.mp3

An emotional piece and really was an integral part of the viewing experience.

I was wondering if you have any personal songs outside of scoring?
Something you've written specifically to stand as a solo work?

I checked your website. Impressive. Obviously soundtracks are your ticket.

Any personal projects though, songs that you can share?
PM is fine if they aren't something you want to share publicly. Knowing musicians the way I do, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't have some solo songs/projects/experiments tucked away somewhere. I'd really love to hear some of your solo ideas if your willing to share them, privately or publicly.

Thanks.

Edgen
11-09-2009, 02:39 PM
re: http://www.edgenmusic.com/edgen_bits_and_pieces.mp3

An emotional piece and really was an integral part of the viewing experience.

I was wondering if you have any personal songs outside of scoring?
Something you've written specifically to stand as a solo work?

I checked your website. Impressive. Obviously soundtracks are your ticket.

Any personal projects though, songs that you can share?
PM is fine if they aren't something you want to share publicly. Knowing musicians the way I do, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't have some solo songs/projects/experiments tucked away somewhere. I'd really love to hear some of your solo ideas if your willing to share them, privately or publicly.

Thanks.

Sure! I've done quite a bit of solo stuff. you can check out my albums at www.edgen.com/music/albums.html
http://www.edgen.com/christmas is my christmas Album.. :)
"Discovery", "A Better Place", "Winter Solitude"etc. are all solo projects. Another big is music for my Kings and Kingdoms project. www.kingsandkingdomsmovie.com (just don't quite have all the 50-60+million for those yet)

cheers!
/j

Noel Evans
11-09-2009, 03:27 PM
Mate you are one talented guy. Is there anything you dont do?

TO bits and pieces. WOW a monster story with a strong message!!!! Awesome, I really appreciate what you did with it and I thought it played out very nicely.

A lot of really strong shots and composition.

Small nitpick, sometimes seemed over acted and dialogue was a bit stiff.

All in all great work here. Well done.

johnhafner
11-09-2009, 04:07 PM
I'm wondering what your thoughts on the 7d are after making this film. I'd love to see a less compressed version, but even at <50MB it still looks gorgeous. What are your thoughts on the workflow and how the camera performed?

Thanks a lot. We do have a 340MB 1280x720p version which looks great but I am not sure if we can give out that link or not. I will PM it to you after I check with Justin.

The h 264 codec for 7d footage is very smooth in playback but not good for editing native since it's an intraframe compression algorithm on cuts it stutters to catch up. It is workable but very much recommended to either change timeline to prores 422 and render intermeditate files (or use mpeg streamclip to batch convert to 422) when using Final Cut. If you use Premiere or Vegas I would recommend useing cineform Neoscene which is what we used.

I was blown away at how the camera picked up the lighting, The less light we used, the better the image was. It was a blast to film with as the HDMI output on an external monitor was EXACTLY how I envisioned the final color corrected footage to be. In fact only 4-5 shot have a mild color correction and the rest is untouched.

johnhafner
11-09-2009, 04:19 PM
and the music if anyone would like to have a full mp3 copy :)

"Bits and Pieces - OST"
http://www.edgenmusic.com/edgen_bits_and_pieces.mp3



Scott, in terms of workflow on the 7d.. the .mov files straight from the 7d were choppy as hell. We had to convert them to avi's.. I can't remember the conversion tool we used, but it gave it a more washed out color. I prefer the sharper original versions but editing was a beast. I'm not about to spend another 4k for an expense paper weight with FinalCut.
/j

We used cineform neoscene to convert them to a 4:2:2 intermeditate and edit them. It worked great but it is a step that is not needed when using final cut as prores 4:2:2 is pretty much equivalent.

The cineform neoscene codec applied a more subdued gamma curve to bring back a lot of detail in the shadows. I VERY much perfer the lower contrast look and if you look at recent major cinema you will notice that they too use a lowered contrast look. The highlights are not quite as sharp indeed but to me that is a big part of the difference in look of film vs video.

Since Vegas would crash when rendering 32bit we had to do a very limited color correct 8bit which SEVERELY limited in what I could do in post and I am looking forward to re-doing it in Premeire or FCP. I'd like to tweak the blacks a little darker and rework the beginning shots.

Edgen
11-10-2009, 01:02 PM
Just wanted everyone to know we made it in the top 13 finalist! Yayae! :)

congrats to all the other finalists as well!
/j

EditPhish
11-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Congrats J... it's well deserved!

Mike Manning
11-10-2009, 01:27 PM
Of course! Congrats!

lawriejaffa
11-10-2009, 05:12 PM
This is an appealing and very attractive tale of monstrous woe, that is shot very well, with some effective use of FX, and an excellent performance from our child actor - aaaaand great production design.

No effort has been spared it seems - and it pays off in the production value and overall quality of the film.

This as a singular piece is very demonstrative of professional talent. It even features a fairly original monster, whose behaviour certainly catches many a viewer off by surprise.

Never the less, there are imperfections in this film that are worthy of discussion.

There is an absence to the storie's meaning or a lack of sophistication at least - in its purpose. Most saavy audiences will immediately suspect that this film isn't going to end happily ever after. (The nature of this film won't see it placed on the listings of the Disney Channel for sake of its twist working.)

On the presumption that the kid is 90% going to buy it, we are not left with a whole lot of purpose in the story.

Why this is important - is it shows you the director having something to say - especially relevant for the authors of fairy tales - were there morals.

The nature of this story makes it a little obscure, for any decision the child could have made that would reveal a right and wrong lesson in this film. This absence will leave some people a little dissatisfied with the childs death at the end.

Of course there are guys that wet there pants over rubber masks and pretty lighting - but for sake of story these things are not as scrutinisd by fascinated filmmakers than often - your average audience member.

Underwhelming would be the description for the end. What you meant to say with this film is not clear enough for such a powerful end - and the result is quite arguably, superficiality (the very prettiest - tip off the hat for that) but superficiality never the less not unlike Mahlen either.

(Im focussing on the point of critique but as a note, i would rank this film highly for sake of its other merits well worthy of recognition.)

dr1x
11-11-2009, 12:00 PM
OUTSTANDING!! You are on your way!! Great cast, crew and direction.

Troy Ruff
11-11-2009, 12:23 PM
congrats man, great job!

Aaron Marshall
11-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Justin,

Cinematography: I loved the look of this film. Your DP is great and really knows what they're doing. Congrats.

Music: Hmm, your tunes sound big budget, but they just don't do it for me melodically. You hit on the Hans Zimmeresque vibe, and if you're a fan of his scores you'll love this. I personally am not. I thought the score took away from the film at some points rather than adding to it. It swelled too much at key times which I found inappropriate and imposing for the claustrophobic atmosphere you created (a great one at that). I think some of it could have used some quiet time, some breathing. Silence is still music.

Story: At first I was falling in love with the motif two people being tattered aesthetically and connecting. If I were a fish I would have definitely been all over the bait. But, like an impatient fisherman you jerked on the reel way too soon before I was properly on the hook. Three quarters through the film I was thinking, "This is way too saccharine.", then the climax is reached and it too abruptly changed from sweet to bitter.

Edit: Your edit was pretty good for the most part. There were a couple of cuts that seemed kind of awkward. You might take a cue from your decision to get a killer DP and get a killer editor as well. There's a massive difference between a good editor and a great editor. You're very capable and could probably edit someone else's film nicely. I'm not sure you had the distance from your film's material to do an outstanding job.

Makeup and Effects: The quality in this department was incredible. I'll go ahead and add in that the costumes looked great as well. I loved the rags on the monster. I also liked the hair and conventional makeup.

Overall: Outstanding job putting this together. It looks like a contender for any big budget movie. Your storytelling has improved greatly since Fallout, but it still needs a lot of work. You seem to be this multitalented guy who has an amazing handle on technology, but sometimes I feel you rely on that aspect of your talent too much. I'm glad you made it into the top and you deserve to be there. Awesome job. Keep in mind my critique was set to "how could this be closer to perfection?" and not "pat my buddy on the back" mode. That being said, let me switch to "pat my buddy on the back" mode and pat you on the back.

Edgen
11-12-2009, 02:52 PM
Justin,

Cinematography: I loved the look of this film. Your DP is great and really knows what they're doing. Congrats.

Music: Hmm, your tunes sound big budget, but they just don't do it for me melodically. You hit on the Hans Zimmeresque vibe, and if you're a fan of his scores you'll love this. I personally am not. I thought the score took away from the film at some points rather than adding to it. It swelled too much at key times which I found inappropriate and imposing for the claustrophobic atmosphere you created (a great one at that). I think some of it could have used some quiet time, some breathing. Silence is still music.

Story: At first I was falling in love with the motif two people being tattered aesthetically and connecting. If I were a fish I would have definitely been all over the bait. But, like an impatient fisherman you jerked on the reel way too soon before I was properly on the hook. Three quarters through the film I was thinking, "This is way too saccharine.", then the climax is reached and it too abruptly changed from sweet to bitter.

Edit: Your edit was pretty good for the most part. There were a couple of cuts that seemed kind of awkward. You might take a cue from your decision to get a killer DP and get a killer editor as well. There's a massive difference between a good editor and a great editor. You're very capable and could probably edit someone else's film nicely. I'm not sure you had the distance from your film's material to do an outstanding job.

Makeup and Effects: The quality in this department was incredible. I'll go ahead and add in that the costumes looked great as well. I loved the rags on the monster. I also liked the hair and conventional makeup.

Overall: Outstanding job putting this together. It looks like a contender for any big budget movie. Your storytelling has improved greatly since Fallout, but it still needs a lot of work. You seem to be this multitalented guy who has an amazing handle on technology, but sometimes I feel you rely on that aspect of your talent too much. I'm glad you made it into the top and you deserve to be there. Awesome job. Keep in mind my critique was set to "how could this be closer to perfection?" and not "pat my buddy on the back" mode. That being said, let me switch to "pat my buddy on the back" mode and pat you on the back.

That was a wonderful review aaron. I appreciate your feedback and the pat on the back. :)

Cheers!
/j

johnhafner
11-12-2009, 03:27 PM
Thanks a lot for that amazing compliment Aaron. I had an amazing time doing this project. This is only my third project as DP and I was VERY spoiled to have to opputunity DP a project with such an amazing level of quality and talent from all involved. An amazing team effort and everyone got a chance to really offer something that improved the final product. Wanna thank Justin for being patient enough to let me, dolly, rack focus, and pan/tilt, 5+ takes in a row till we got the shot. Also thanks for the time I needed to fiddle with the crappy borrowed light kit to get it looking good. :) Thanks to Leah for such a great script. Prob the most important aspect, all the camera work in the world can't make a bad story good.

I can't wait to do it again! The suburban full of film equipment I bought for 'Bit's and Pieces' is just sitting around gathering dust so somebody put it to good use already! (well not really, I shot a feature trailer last week but that is wrapped now so I'm bored again)

Richard J. Johnson
11-14-2009, 07:06 PM
Amazing film! congrats.

Matty_g
11-14-2009, 07:15 PM
(well not really, I shot a feature trailer last week but that is wrapped now so I'm bored again)
I know the feeling...

dsto
11-14-2009, 07:48 PM
Really enjoyed your piece. Fantastic look. The sound design was great. Holding back on giving us a peek at the monster's face was a nice touch. We may have guessed the ending, but it is a fantastic film, and highly enjoyable.

SpenserS
11-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Love the film. Thanks for showing us what the 7d can do in a narrative situation!

abalex
11-15-2009, 03:00 AM
Great piece of work Justin! I thought this was one of the best, got some Q's about the storyline but overall this was really good. The canon 7D did great!

Leah
11-15-2009, 08:11 PM
What ?'s regarding Storyline. The Backstory??
Leah
(writer)

gi-jones
11-18-2009, 11:41 AM
I can't see it. Says that something is wrong with the codec. The other films work just fine though.

Edgen
11-18-2009, 11:58 AM
you can try: VLC player. it plays just about everything.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

good luck!
/j

Tom Marshall
11-18-2009, 02:27 PM
Justin... very nice job with this one. Your stuff keeps getting better and better. Tell Nicholle she did a great job. I really like her as an actress.

That was a weird little twist at the end and I was thinking, "Wait... wtf??" The twist slowly revealed itself which was nicely done.

Cinematography was fantastic. Nice job on that, John. :beer:

I anxiously await your next film dude... :)

Arturo Sanchez
11-20-2009, 09:46 AM
One word..... "AMAZING"

Edgen
11-21-2009, 08:53 AM
Bits and Pieces just placed 2nd in the Jury Panel vote and 3rd place for the DVXuser.com panel vote!!

wew hew!!

here's the winner thread:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=191215



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Congratulations to each and everyone of you. As always...

The fest is here for you guys.

This was a real tight battle this time around. Both the member vote and the Juror's vote. In fact, we really had no idea what the juror vote was going to turn out to be until all of them were in.

Was a fun and interesting ride this time.

So...... First, the results of the Panel Vote

1st (8.57) DISPATCH by Nobelo
2nd (8.29) BITS AND PIECES by Edgen
3rd (7.29) RED AND THE WOLF by AJ Brooks
4th (7.00) ONE PERCENT by Michael Anthony Horrigan
5th (6.86) THE TELL by lyonfilms (5)
5th (6.86) THE DEVIL’s TOY by Sprocketboy
7th (6.57) MERCY by Troy Ruff
8th (6.43) THE JONES' by Marlon Ladd
9th (6.29) MONSTERS BEWARE! by cinealma
10th (6.14) THE COOKIE JAR by chstick
10th (6.14) SINNERGY by Geoff_R
12th (6.00) ATTACK OF THE KILLER AUTOMOBILE by mobiledeli
13th (5.71) LEARNING TO PREY by Shawn Philip Nelson
(link to view each juror's ballot (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1818646&postcount=7))


Jack Daniel Stanley... Tell 'em what they've won! (Jack really kicked ass for you guys. Make sure you tell him thanks.)

SCREENING SLOTS not only for first place as announced, but for the TOP THREE FILMS @ BOTH
TEXAS BLOODBATH (http://texasbloodbath.com/)
&
FRIGHT NIGHT FILM FESTIVAL (http://www.myspace.com/frightnightfilmfest)

*In addition FRIGHT NIGHT FILM FESTIVAL has offered to screen the top three films from each year's horror themed fest moving forward! Too cool!

Fee waiver for DISPATCH at SHRIEKFEST (http://www.shriekfest.com/)

REVIEWS for the 1st place film, but other finalists may receive reviews as well.

At least one film not in the final top 3 has peaked interest from a distributor (we'll put you in touch).

And Justin Durban will be contacted for a blog talk radio interview on Indie Horror Radio (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hmfradio/2009/02/09/horrormoviefanscom-indie-horror-radio-with-parrish-randall-1) with Parrish Randall.

THANKS AGAIN TO OUR JURORS!!!!


BC (reviewer/blogger BLOODY DISGUSTING & HORROR-MOVIE-A-DAY, Editor, Some Guy) (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811596&postcount=7)
KEN DANIELS (FRIGHT NIGHT FILM FESTIVAL Founder / Festival Director) (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811616&postcount=9)
DENISE GOSSETT(SHRIEKFEST Founder / Festival Director) (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811505&postcount=3)
CHRISTIAN REMDE VP of Acquisitions at R SQUARED FILMS (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811615&postcount=8)

ANDREW ROSE (TEXAS BLOODBATH Founder / Festival Director) (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811513&postcount=4)
DEVI SNIVELY (writer/directrix) (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811563&postcount=6)
STEPHEN SUSCO (producer/screenwriter) (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1811498&postcount=2)

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DVXuser Member vote results:

1. Dispatch - NOBELO 8.6421%
2. Red and the Wolf - AJ Brooks 7.2809%
3. Bits and Pieces - Edgen 7.2255 %
4. Sinnergy - Geoff_R 7.2083%
5. The Tell - lyonfilms 6.7841%
6. One Percent - Michael Anthony Horrigan 6.5876%
7. The Devil's Toy - Sprocketboy 6.5824%
8. THE JONES' - Marlon Ladd 6.4943%
9. Monsters Beware! - cinealma 6.3774%
10. Mercy - Troy Ruff 6.3000%
11. Learning to Prey - Shawn Philip Nelson 5.8878%
12. Attack of... Automobile - mobiledeli 5.8700%
13. The Cookie Jar - chstick 5.7722%


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Prizes for the member vote will be announced tomorrow. Still wrapping up a couple of them. They will be listed in the following post as well as who won what. I'll try to do much better with getting the prize stuff taken care of quicker this time. :)

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Thanks again to everyone who entered. I'm really glad to have been able to watch such a wide range of films in the fest, to see some filmmakers grow, and others mature, etc, etc, etc.

Thanks to JDS for putting together a kick ass panel to mix things up a bit and hopefully introduce something new that we've been wanting to do with the fests for a long time in addition to the member vote.

Thanks to Larry, our FestMaster. Though, he may never see daylight, he is always hard at work behind the scenes making sure everything runs as smoothly as possible.

Thanks to all the other mods as well for helping to make DVXuser a great place, and DVXFest the coolest and most open fest on the web. Always free. and it will remain open to all who wish to participate in the process.

Thanks to everyone who picked up their camera and made a film. That's what it's all about. Doesn't really matter if you fell on your face or rose to the top. It's the process, and the experience of it all and actually doing it that matters most. I hope you will all continue to make films for fun, for work, or for any reason that you may decide to pick up a camera.

Thanks to those of you who took the time to rate the films, and to those of you who also took the time to provide such wonderful feedback for the filmmakers.

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Enough thanks? Next Fest?

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BetrayalFest. Betrayal. yup.

AJ Brooks
11-21-2009, 09:18 AM
Congrats on the placing! Really great work.

Rodney V. Smith
11-21-2009, 10:34 AM
Most excellent news dude! Definitely well deserved. What's next for you?

johnhafner
11-21-2009, 11:45 AM
Awesome!

Charli
11-21-2009, 12:48 PM
Beautifully done, was always a top contender, congrats!

Marlon Ladd
11-21-2009, 04:14 PM
Nice, Justin!

Tom Marshall
11-22-2009, 12:00 AM
Kick ass, dude!

Slimothy
11-22-2009, 12:49 AM
Nice job man. Congrats.

ropbo
11-23-2009, 12:15 AM
Yes we shot on the 7d and various prime lenses.

Do you remember what apertures you shot at ? Also what shutter speed ?

Thanks

twocik23
11-23-2009, 03:46 AM
AWESOME job !

It reminds me of pan's labyrinth, great lighting. I would love to see and hear more on your set designs....

Darkline
11-23-2009, 05:20 AM
Congrats Justin :-)

johnhafner
11-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Do you remember what apertures you shot at ? Also what shutter speed ?

Thanks

We shot a good majority of it with a Sigma 20mm f 1.8 Usually set between 2.0 and 2.8. The shutter speed was at 1/50 the whole shoot to closely match a 180 deg film shutter. We also used a Aashi Takumar 50mm f1.4 shot at 2.0 and a few other lenses from Tamron and Canon 85m 1.2 @ 1.2 for the night alley shot. The iso was typically 160 or 200, with a few shots @ 320. The orphanage house ISO was a little higher @ 400-640 as we were using almost exclusively natural light.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-23-2009, 10:12 AM
Congrats Justin and all involved.

Edgen
11-23-2009, 10:12 AM
We shot a good majority of it with a Sigma 20mm f 1.8 Usually set between 2.0 and 2.8. The shutter speed was at 1/50 the whole shoot to closely match a 180 deg film shutter. We also used a Aashi Takumar 50mm f1.4 shot at 2.0 and a few other lenses from Tamron and Canon 85m 1.2 @ 1.2 for the night alley shot. The iso was typically 160 or 200, with a few shots @ 320. The orphanage house ISO was a little higher @ 400-640 as we were using almost exclusively natural light.

HAAA!!! And that's why John was the DP. :)

ropbo
11-24-2009, 01:44 PM
We shot a good majority of it with a Sigma 20mm f 1.8 Usually set between 2.0 and 2.8. The shutter speed was at 1/50 the whole shoot to closely match a 180 deg film shutter. We also used a Aashi Takumar 50mm f1.4 shot at 2.0 and a few other lenses from Tamron and Canon 85m 1.2 @ 1.2 for the night alley shot. The iso was typically 160 or 200, with a few shots @ 320. The orphanage house ISO was a little higher @ 400-640 as we were using almost exclusively natural light.

Thanks !!! And congratulations !!! You guys did a great job.

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-24-2009, 11:32 PM
hey Justin, can you add your cast and crew to the first post of the thread?
The press release links here and reviewers will want that info.

Thanks and congrats again. Really great looking short and story.

press release
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=191656

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-24-2009, 11:34 PM
Ah I see where your crew is now.
Maybe set them of from the full list of placements, or just have your cast and crew and link to the full placement. Up to you though and how you want to present the info for a reviewer.

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-26-2009, 12:18 AM
Congrats on your review Edgen Crew. LINK IN SIG.

Edgen
11-26-2009, 07:54 AM
Thank you Jack!

In terms of the crew, do you mean put the credits in text form below the poster on the first page?

/j

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-26-2009, 09:29 AM
I would recommend it. You want to make it easy for someone to compliment John, for example, when doing a review.

Edgen
11-26-2009, 09:52 AM
Great! I added many of the credits to the page.. Still have a few more to go.
/j

cinealma
11-26-2009, 11:23 AM
Just wanted to drop in and say congrats!

Sttratos
11-30-2009, 06:28 AM
What a great short with a great story, direction, cinematography, acting and craft. Very well done guys. It looks amazing.


Thanks a lot. We do have a 340MB 1280x720p version which looks great but I am not sure if we can give out that link or not. I will PM it to you after I check with Justin.

Will this version be made available? I would love to see this awesome piece in higher resolution.
By the way, did you shoot in 720p or 1080p?



I was blown away at how the camera picked up the lighting, The less light we used, the better the image was. It was a blast to film with as the HDMI output on an external monitor was EXACTLY how I envisioned the final color corrected footage to be.

How have you set your monitor? Since the 7D has no color bars I'm finding it difficult to set the on board LCD or a set monitor so I can trust it for exposure.
By the way, what monitors did you use?
And lastly, what picture style settings?

Congrats again to all involved!

johnhafner
11-30-2009, 09:25 AM
I mostly just eye-balled it.
I used the HDMI out on a samsung 1080p LCD monitor as a reference monitor and basically just got the picture as good as possible how I would want the final picture.
I wasn't typically exposing at 0 though, depending on the lighting, many scenes were low key and quite dark overall and I'd underexpose on purpose. Having the full hd out I would check the talents face to make sure enough detail was recorded. With the HDMI out as a safety net I felt very safe shooting -1 or -2 stops though if the scene was supposed to look dark. On the darker shots, to be safe, I would set up the iso fstop and exposure to look correct for final output, then open up a half stop or so for safety intending to lower it back in post.

I tweaked the monitor by hand, it has a film profile I used with a seemingly lowered gamma level, and I set the dynamic contrast on. It's a Samsung 23" 1080P hd monitor with speakers which I bought because I was enamoured with the color reproduction on my 52" LN650A Samsung LCD.

For exposure I first set via the 7d exposure setting bars. In video mode it seems to do a center weighted exposure measurement depending on where the white focus rectangle is placed so I place that on the Talent.

I used faithful picture style Sharpness -2 from center. Contrast -2 to -4 from center. Saturation 0 color tone 0 or +1. ISO 160-320(first scene was at ISO 1000 in places) depending on the fstop (1.8-2.8) for the house scene White Balance was set Manually to ~5200K and we used daylight balanced lights with CTO gels.

Once I had the exposure and white balance etc, dialled in for a setup, then I lit. And much of the overall picture was done while watching the monitor feed in HD and fine tuning with gels and dimming on the florescent window key and fill lighting and adjusting/scrimming/snooting the tungsten background lights. Whenever I couldn't see the monitor, I had to trial and error or have someone else watch it while I adjusted lights. (Don't recommend this, I eventually just moved the monitor.)

Oh and we used the heck out of a $20 fogger filled with Haze juice to help get a nice flat cinema-like lighting style. That thing was running the whole shoot.

If I had had the time, I would have taken a test clip of a color chart with an 18% grey square, copied it to my color calibrated macbook pro monitor and compared the grey levels to make sure they are 18% there. Color wise I could have done this better, but the talent had a white dress and I tried to just eyeball it so looked right and make sure her face didn't look too orange. Mostly just set the white balance @ the start and kept it there. When you have multiple lights and diff white balances on 5200k and 3200k lights, where you hold the chart makes a BIG difference. We had our 800w CFL 5500k key with 3 or 4 sheets of 1/2 CTO which made it VERY orange. So white balancing versus that would correct all the orange that should be there. So once again eyeball on a reference monitor is what I recommend.

Basically I treated it like a film camera and got it all looking good, exposed properly then shot, not intending to do much color correction in post. Interesting note, Dark Night, did almost 0 color correction in post, and very little ADR. They got it right straight out of the camera.

Edgen
12-10-2009, 08:43 PM
I just finished the extended "Festival Cut" of bits and pieces.

Rendering out the extra 1.5 minutes has been a nightmare with vegas. I'm starting to question if i should have used that editing software in the first place. Ah well. live and learn.

I'm hoping to get it done before the South by Southwest film Fest deadline of Dec 11th. (on top of about 5 other projects all with closing fast deadlines too). Multi-task mode is definitely on!

Hoping to do a film for Betrayal Fest. See you guys there.

/j

littlekidlover
12-12-2009, 10:16 PM
man I really want to watch this but when I download it it says "not a movie file" since it's .mp4. What should I do all the other movies on here work fine since they are .mov...but this looks awesome :(

littlekidlover
12-12-2009, 10:16 PM
YES never mind I got it to work!

Edgen
01-25-2010, 10:17 AM
Welp... We got the official REJECTION letter from SXSW (South by South West) film festival.

We've submitted to a few others so hopefully we'll hear better news from them.

alas.. we move onward.
EdgenFilms Next project: "RACK" www.edgenfilms.com/rack

/j

Edgen
03-03-2010, 10:52 AM
... And, another REJECTION letter from ASPENFest.


*********

HOWEVER; Bits and Pieces will be showcased at SXSW this year with the Reel Women showcase. We are not officially a SXSW entry, but a side show? Not exactly sure how that works, but we are there.

here's the press for the SXSW event:


Once again, for about the 7th year, the generous people at SXSW have asked REEL WOMEN to put together a two 75-minute showcases of our members’ films for screening during the festival. After receiving a REEL WOMEN record-breaking amount of submissions, we have finally put together two great programs that showcase our members’ work (please see below). We thank all our members who submitted their shorts. This year the quality of work was so high that we especially had a difficult time narrowing it down.

We encourage all SXSW badge-holders and non-badge holders alike to come out and check out the REEL WOMEN SXSW Showcase. During the screenings we will be asking our audience to vote on their favorite REEL WOMEN short. During April’s REEL WOMEN meeting we will award the filmmaker with the special award package.

Both Screenings will be at the Hideout Theatre, 617 Congress Avenue (Congress and 7th Street)

SATURDAY'S PROGRAM: 80 minutes

Mind Over Polio (10:00) dir. Deb Eynon Finley
La Petit Canard (1:46) dir. Amelia Giller
Broken Heart Boy (11:34) dir. Matty Greene
Hung Up (9:16) dir. Erin Randall
ABC Detectives (7:00) dir. Sarah Nolen
Bits and Pieces (7:30) dir. Justin Durban
Close Enough (9:00) dir. Deb Bryan
Somewhere in the Middle (12:24) dir. Jenni Tooley
Without You (5:00) dir. Brandy Amstel
Wave to Life (7:00) dir. Melissa Nierman

Filmmakers feel free to post your pictures, synopsis and other promotional material here.

Seating is limited! Confirming attendance on Facebook does NOT guarantee you a seat to the screening.

If you do not have a SXSW badge or are not the filmmaker, A single admission ticket can be bought at the box office 15 minutes prior to the screening ($10). Individual tickets are only sold after badges AND passes are let in, space permitting. The larger venues (Paramount & Hitachi G-Tech/ACC) usually have room for individual ticket sales.

Brandon Rice
03-03-2010, 10:59 AM
Welp... We got the official REJECTION letter from SXSW (South by South West) film festival.

We've submitted to a few others so hopefully we'll hear better news from them.

alas.. we move onward.
EdgenFilms Next project: "RACK" www.edgenfilms.com/rack

/j

Hey Justin,

I recommend submitting to the AOF Festival www.aoffest.com

It's a relatively new festival, but has been growing a ton the last few years. I've been going since it's first year.

:)

Edgen
03-03-2010, 11:35 AM
Thank you Brandon.. This is the tough thing with films in fests.. $$$.

$50 here, $40 there..., $25 over twere... It all starts to add up. I have one more REJECTION letter to go and from here on out, I think we'll have to take the free fest route. Either that, or we are just submitting to the wrong festivals.

I have yet to hear from the PRIZE people and from the Horror festivals we are supposed to be in. I suppose I need to get on the horn with mr. JDStanley

i'll keep everyone posted..

/j

Brandon Rice
03-04-2010, 10:20 AM
Yeah I know what you mean Justin... it get's pretty expensive...

Rodney V. Smith
03-05-2010, 05:03 PM
I think the worst thing is that even if you don't get in they still take your money. It can be a cash cow for them, that's why there are so many fraudulent ones popping up on occasion.

Remember to go for Comic-Con... it's a big one in the comic and sci/fi world.. just your target audience. Good demographic.

Edgen
03-09-2010, 08:01 AM
Hello again. The ambassador of bad news for B&Ps...

Just got TWO more REJECTION letters today. Tribecca (not surprising) and a Dallas film fest for women in film. I think from here on out its the free fest circa. :)

On a GOOD note.. Our latest film, "RACK" just got accepted in the Merited Films of www.thedoorpost.com Film Competition. This is good news because we are only steps away from winning a possible 40k to produce a 12-30 script. (assuming we make it past round two)

you can watch the film here:
http://www.thedoorpost.com/sacrifice/Rack


Hope you like it!

Synopsis: A man attains all of his dreams, only to find out that the cost is the unrealized future of his mentally challenged beloved brother.

The script was conceived on January 6th, 2010. Shoot dates were two weeks later starting on the 17th through the 19th. The remaining time was Post Production to meet the deadline of Feb 8th, 2010."

Ralph D
03-09-2010, 08:30 AM
Did you consider entering the film in horror fests besides the ones you're already screening in? There are quite a few with very low entry fees.

I know how those fees can add up, but you have a very good film on your hands and I don't think you'd have a hard time getting into some more genre fests.

Edgen
03-09-2010, 08:34 AM
well, that's the thing with this entry.. it's like a Disney Horror film. It's not really horror, but not really family friendly. I just think we are picking the wrong fests. Its a good learning lesson. pricey.. yes. but good.

We'll definitely have to do some more research and see what we can come up with.

/j

Edgen
03-13-2010, 11:05 AM
If you guys are in Austin, TX ... "Bits and Pieces" will be screened today (March 13, 2010) at the REEL Women Showcase at SXSW @ the Hideout Theatre on 617 Congress Avenue. here's the details:


Once again, for about the 7th year, the generous people at SXSW have asked REEL WOMEN to put together a two 75-minute showcases of our members’ films for screening during the festival. After receiving a REEL WOMEN record-breaking amount of submissions, we have finally put together two great programs that showcase our members’ work (please see below). We thank all our members who submitted their shorts. This year the quality of work was so high that we especially had a difficult time narrowing it down.

We encourage all SXSW badge-holders and non-badge holders alike to come out and check out the REEL WOMEN SXSW Showcase. During the screenings we will be asking our audience to vote on their favorite REEL WOMEN short. During April’s REEL WOMEN meeting we will award the filmmaker with the special award package.

Both Screenings will be at the Hideout Theatre, 617 Congress Avenue (Congress and 7th Street)

SATURDAY'S PROGRAM: 80 minutes

Mind Over Polio (10:00) dir. Deb Eynon Finley
La Petit Canard (1:46) dir. Amelia Giller
Broken Heart Boy (11:34) dir. Matty Greene
Hung Up (9:16) dir. Erin Randall
ABC Detectives (7:00) dir. Sarah Nolen
Bits and Pieces (7:30) dir. Justin Durban
Close Enough (9:00) dir. Deb Bryan
Somewhere in the Middle (12:24) dir. Jenni Tooley
Without You (5:00) dir. Brandy Amstel
Wave to Life (7:00) dir. Melissa Nierman

Filmmakers feel free to post your pictures, synopsis and other promotional material here.

Seating is limited! Confirming attendance on Facebook does NOT guarantee you a seat to the screening.

If you do not have a SXSW badge or are not the filmmaker, A single admission ticket can be bought at the box office 15 minutes prior to the screening ($10). Individual tickets are only sold after badges AND passes are let in, space permitting. The larger venues (Paramount & Hitachi G-Tech/ACC) usually have room for individual ticket sales.

Edgen
03-16-2010, 01:08 PM
The screening went great! I think they said I was 2nd to the audience favorite? But alas, good times. People were shocked to see the end. I mean, comon'.. "What's a monster to do but do what a monster does?"

On another cool note, RACK just made it to round 2 of the www.thedoorpost.com Film Project. There were 20 other wonderful films up there, so if you guys have a moment, you should go check some of them out.

till the next B&P news... :) (and I suppose rack news)

/j

Edgen
04-30-2010, 08:06 AM
Bits and Pieces will be screening tonight.. (friday April 30th, 2010) in Austin, TX


SHORT FILM SHOWCASE SCREENINGS -- FRIDAY, APRIL 30 -- at the Picture Box Studio, 701 Tillery, Suite A-7, Austin 78702. We're giving you a second chance to see our SXSW Showcases! Q&A with filmmakers and/or other cast/crew following each screening. ADMISSION: $5 (one screening) $8 (both screenings) / $3 RW Members (one screening) $5 (both screenings)

FILMMAKERS: You +1 get in free to your screening!

EARLY SCREENING: 6:30pm
Mind Over Polio, Deb Eynon Finley
La Petit Canard, Amelia Giller
Broken Heart Boy, Matty Greene
*Hung Up, Erin Randall (*Audience Favorite)
ABC Detectives, Sarah Nolen
**Bits and Pieces, Justin Durban (** Honorable Mention, Audience Favorite)
Close Enough, Deb Bryan
Somewhere in the Middle, Jenni Tooley
Without You, Brandy Amstel
Wave to Life, Melissa Nierman


LATE SCREENING: 8:30pm
Looking for Sign, Listening for Sound, Dunya Bean
Untitled Moon Project, John Moore
Ulysse: The Journey, Amelia Giller & Brittany McFalls
Tracy, Ben Slamka
Awakening, Andrew Neilson
La Page Blanche, Sarah Gonzalez
Bag It, Christine Giordano
Dialing Amy, Lexer Kadan
When the Sun Sets, Cheri Clemons
*Drama, Timeca M. Seretti (*Audience Favorite)
Taco! Taco! Taco!, John Estrada


If you are in town, i'll see ya there!
/j

Brandon Rice
04-30-2010, 09:29 AM
Nice! What's the latest on RACK?

Edgen
04-30-2010, 11:50 AM
we are at our second re-write for the 2nd round of doorpost. we have until the 24th of next month to get the final draft in. From there they pick 5 of the 21 scripts to move onto the next round.

Marlon Ladd
04-30-2010, 12:24 PM
we are at our second re-write for the 2nd round of doorpost. we have until the 24th of next month to get the final draft in. From there they pick 5 of the 21 scripts to move onto the next round.
Man, I thought I saw your name on there. Wasn't for sure it was you though, because you hadn't said anything or maybe I missed it. Glad you made it to the next round. So, they're choosing scripts instead of the filmmaker? As in they will choose the winners based on the script they write?

johnhafner
06-04-2010, 10:34 AM
Hey Guys,

I recently put together my 2010 Cinematography demo reel. Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/v/ozLjfqNiK-k&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1

ozLjfqNiK-k&hl=en_US&fs=1&hd=1

Edgen
06-04-2010, 11:18 AM
Very cool reel John! Can't wait to see how the interrogator turns out.

Edgen
06-05-2010, 08:49 PM
I just added B&P to the 1st page of the thread. enjoy!

"Bits and Pieces"
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Edgen
06-14-2010, 12:11 PM
Short Film Texas just did a small interview on their website regarding Bits and Pieces..

http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/2010/austin-filmmaker-justin-durbans-short-film-bits-and-pieces-delivers-big-budget-fantasy-on-indie-filmmaker-funds/

June 07, 2010
Austin Filmmaker Justin Durban’s Short Film “Bits And Pieces” Delivers Big Budget Fantasy on Indie Filmmaker Funds (http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/2010/austin-filmmaker-justin-durbans-short-film-bits-and-pieces-delivers-big-budget-fantasy-on-indie-filmmaker-funds/)

Posted By: Chris Weidner Category: Austin (http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/category/austin/), Filmmaker Interviews (http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/category/film-interviews/), Short Films (http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/category/short-films/)
Austin Filmmaker Justin Durban’s Short Film “Bits And Pieces” Delivers Big Budget Fantasy on Indie Filmmaker Funds.
http://sfti.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/justin_durban-228x300.jpg
Film Title: Bits and Pieces
Director: Justin R. Durban (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0243943/)
Writer: Leah Weinberger (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3733040/)
Director of Photography: John Hafner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3556534/)
Cast: Aileen Davila (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3715963/), David Collier (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3814217/), Nicholle Walton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3546871/)
SHORTFILMTEXAS (SFT): What is your short film “Bits and Pieces” about?
JUSTIN R. DURBAN (JRD): A young girl terribly scarred is kidnapped by a lonely monster who feels a connection with her because of their shared monstrous appearance. They spend the day connecting as a family. When it is time for him to return her to her lonely life the girl begs to stay and be a family together. She accepts him completely as he is and begs for him to adopt her. He loves her so much that he finds a way for them to be together forever.
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SFT: What did you shoot on? (Likes/Dislikes)
JRD: We shot “Bits and Pieces” on the DSLR canon 7d. John Hafner was the Director of Photography. The 7d encodes the footage as it records, so you have to convert the footage again so your editing system can actually take on the clips. Another disadvantage is tricky focusing and hand-held work with a DSLR is just out of the question. It’s so light that it feels like a home video. So, i prefer giving it some weight or lock it down on sticks. The advantage of the 7D is the film is basically straight from camera. VERY little Color Correction was used with this film. The trickiest part was getting the right lighting with all the fog from set.
SFT: What did you edit on? (Likes/Dislikes)
JRD: I used Sony Vegas to edit. I just find that the moving/adjusting the clips is very simple. I suppose it really didn’t matter what I used. I’ve used Premiere to edit films in the past too. They are all basically the same. Just different buttons with different names.
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SFT: How did you come up with the story?
JRD: The screenplay was written by Leah Weinberger. She wrote the story from the Screenwriters of Austin group as a contest to pitch to the Austin Film Meet (http://www.austinfilmmeet.com/index.html) (AFM) group which consists of all sorts of people in the film industry. I told her I would be happy to do the music for the film, and she took it the wrong way and ask for me to direct instead.


SFT: That’s quite a leap in responsibility. I’ll have to try the old “I’ll do your music” trick sometime.
JRD: Right! It worked out great though. I mean come on…build a set, work with kids, and design a costume for a mummy in less than a month?… “Let’s do it!”
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SFT: Tell me a bit about your cast and crew.
JRD: Most of the production Crew came from the Austin Film Meet group (AFM) or other people that I have met here in the Austin area. It’s truly great to have people willing to work on your project with such a limited budget. I suppose that’s why we all like to make films.
The casting of Bits and Pieces was an interesting experience. I originally wanted a ‘towering’ actor for the role of the mummy. But, finding an extremely tall skinny actor in the Austin, Texas area who could articulate movements was challenging. We more or less just ran out of time and then David Collier happened into the project. He ended up nailing an interesting voice and movement of the mummy and was able to work with our closely approaching deadline. Our little girl in the film, Aileen Davila, just nailed it in the auditions. She ended up driving down with her mom from Dallas, Texas to play the part as LeAnn. Luckily it all worked out and she was a wonderful little trooper willing to put in those extra long hours. Nicholle Walton played the part as Florence, the mean Orphanage keeper. We found a great wig and basically told her.. ‘action’ and that’s what we got.
SFT: That’s a pretty diverse cast, from creatures to kids. How would you describe your directing style?
JRD: I’ll usually let the actors do their thing when performing. For me.. If a line or action stood out as a bad performance, that’s usually when I’ll step in and suggest another direction. (time, money, and extra rehearsals would solve this in the pre-pro side of things. Again, we live and learn)
http://sfti.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/bits_and_pieces_orphange_girls-450x254.jpg
SFT: Do you have any advice for working with children on a film?
JRD: Find a great actor with great parents who are very supportive. Ours were phenomenal all around. I do wish I had a little more time to work with them, but time and money were definitely not in the equation.
SFT: What was a favorite moment while making the film?
JRD: Happy accidents. We found a new location on the same hour that we were to set up the next shot. It was a matter of me, the DP (John Hafner), and the actress in a very tight and rickety old attic of this old empty house. We had to work on the fly as the landlord (a preacher) was breathing down our backs that he was leaving soon. Not to mention we had to run power across the street to a church by extension cord. Ahhhhh, the joys of indie filmmaking at its best.
SFT: Speaking of locations. Where was the film shot?
JRD: The main set was in the back of a small gift shop in Elgin, Texas run by David Smith. James McMahan provided the production design of the two sets with the help of some great people. It was amazing what we pulled off in a few days. The other locations was an old run down house owned by a preacher who’s church was across the street (that provided the power via extension cord) and the alleyway behind the gift shop in Elgin. We found an old building in Austin, Texas for the exterior shot of the orphanage.



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SFT: Who did the creature design and FX? How did decide on a look?
JRD: We did an extensive search on google to find a cross between old leathery mummies to corpses and bodies. We settled with Jessica Isam gluing tea/coffee stained towels to David Collier’s face. She also created a small prosthetic nose and eye piece and covered that up as well.
SFT: Along with directing, editing and producing, you also did the beautiful music for the film? What is your composition process?
JRD: The music was the easiest part of the project. I imported/converted the locked film in my computer, loaded a sample set into Gigastudio, fired up Cakewalk’s Sonar and just hit record. Looking back, I do wish i could change up the score in some places, but for the most part I think it works. It’s the joy/curse of being able to score your own film. You don’t have to answer to anyone except yourself.
SHORTFILMTEXAS: So what’s next for Justin Durban?
JUSTIN R. DURBAN: We have a few things in the works over at Edgen Films. We’ve got a great core team capable of producing anything thrown to use. Most likely however; we tend to lean more towards the sci-fi and fantasy realms but our pallet is open to just about anything. You can view our latest projects at www.edgenfilms.com (http://www.edgenfilms.com/)


Source:

http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/2010/austin-filmmaker-justin-durbans-short-film-bits-and-pieces-delivers-big-budget-fantasy-on-indie-filmmaker-funds/