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jasonthewho
11-23-2009, 03:36 AM
Oh man, you guys had me fooled...

I actually think it was for the best that you guys went incognito... I went into this one with absolutely no preconceptions, and thus didn't judge it against your previous work.

Good to see you guys back.

Just noticed that AJ posted basically the same post. Oh well.

Darkline
11-23-2009, 05:19 AM
well done, great little short

Hawk Teflon
11-23-2009, 09:50 AM
Ho-lee crap! That was fantastic!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
11-23-2009, 10:14 AM
Congrats, team. This short looked very slick.

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-23-2009, 11:27 AM
Just a note of encouragement / tough love to the members.

There's been a lot of talk about FM production value, some going so far to say it's unfair that they get to compete.

But this is one frickin' location. A living room. Put together in 1 week from casting to wrap.

OK. O2 - that was ridiculous - I mean who finds a poo pooing spaceship set for 4 days for $300 total!

But as for DISPATCH it was Tim's parent's living room (one location only), a hazer (rent for $50), an indie slider, some lights (nothing crazy, no 4K's or anything), depth of field, some good makeup, and composition. For many members, certainly ALL of the finalists, the only thing holding pretty much anyone on these boards back from making a short that looks just like it is talent, study, and preparation.

Most all of you have more than a leg up in all three requirements, so no excuses. Just commit to doing it and start calling in the favors.

Which brings us back to the O2 spaceship set. One of the reasons FM can put stuff together like this is that they start with a "we can" attitude and go out and schmooze and meet people and ask for favors - like giant spaceship sets for $300. Like really good vampire makeup for virtually nothing. Rather than starting with "there's no way I can achieve that." I'm here to say, yes you can.

The spaceship set and the vamp makeup brings us to one of my production value tricks - write for - be INSPIRED by available resources. Mark knew of the O2 set before he wrote O2. He knew he could probably get it for cheap when it wasn't booked by using his schmooze skills and offerings some kind of trade to the people that run the place (his VFX skills I think). So that set was pretty much an available resource and he wrote O2 to take place on it. For DISPATCH Tim thought - what can I do in somebody's house, on one location, shot in 1 day, for almost no money, and Oh yeah, I know this really cool makeup chic.

It's just a living room, lights, dolly shots, and a hazer. You all should be able to put that together ... as for what you do with it ... I think most of you are up to the challenge.

dmc
11-23-2009, 11:32 AM
Great post Jack!


: )

dmc

Jason Ramsey
11-23-2009, 11:49 AM
For DISPATCH Tim thought - what can I do in somebody's house, on one location, shot in 1 day, for almost no money,

That's pretty much exactly what I did with my lovefest entry. I had myself, my two friends, a camera that needed to stay close to a plugged in laptop to offload cards. So, it ended up being a character driven story that could take place on my front porch (at the time) and use natural light.

I think Jack's advice is great. write for the available resources that you have, whether they be a spaceship or a front porch and you having to hold the mic and operate the camera by yourself, or whatever. If you write for a location that you don't have, or effects that someone can't do, etc... That's when things can look "amateurish" and people start talking about "production value".

Last time they had a RED One, and a spaceship. This time they had a GH1, and a living room. I enjoyed this change of pace. Where they didn't have some giganto grand idea, that was bursting at the seams to fit into 6 minutes, etc. They had a small idea that had room to breathe.

Two of my favorites of the fest were this, and THE JONES'. Those films were nothing alike, and I enjoyed them both for completely different reasons.

Personality is where it's at in my opinion. Your film has to have personality.

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-23-2009, 12:06 PM
...
Personality is where it's at in my opinion. Your film has to have personality.
A unique voice, perspective, something to say, je ne sais quois.

Personal in other words.

Blaine
11-23-2009, 12:07 PM
Last time they had a RED One, and a spaceship. This time they had a GH1, and a living room.
That's it right there, Jason. I remember all the buzz around the fact that several of the shorts were shot with the RED One and how other filmmakers couldn't compete with that. This one was shot with a GH1. It just goes to show that in the right hands you can get good images out of different tools. For too many people the stumbling block has been, "I can't compete because I don't have the best equipment." While having the right tool can certainly help, the talent USING the tools is infinitely more important.

Matty_g
11-23-2009, 12:26 PM
a hazer (rent for $50)
I wish it was a hazer. It was a borrowed smoke machine that needed MUCH wofting and needed to be used between EVERY take.

Edgen
11-23-2009, 12:30 PM
I wish it was a hazer. It was a borrowed smoke machine that needed MUCH wofting and needed to be used between EVERY take.

I hear ya man.. we used one in ours and I can't tell you how many shots were ruined because there was "too much" or "setting off the smoke detector". The smoke actually changed the look of the film so we were constantly having to adjust the cam. Did you guys have the same issue?

add smoke fx to add to things not to work with. (kids, animals, smoke machines) :)

/j

Matty_g
11-23-2009, 12:39 PM
We often took time to get things ready and would start a take and realize the smoke wasn't there so we'd have to cut and add smoke.
Haze from hazers like the DF-50 lingers in the air MUCH longer and is much finer.

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-23-2009, 01:03 PM
I wish it was a hazer. It was a borrowed smoke machine that needed MUCH wofting and needed to be used between EVERY take.
Yeah I suspected it might be a smoke machine, but it looked so damn even.

If there is $30 to $50 bucks for a hazer rental for a 1 day shoot it's sooooo worth it.

But this goes to the point again about RED vs GH1 and SPACE SHIP SETS vs LIVING ROOMS. Hazers make it easy to get the look. But if you are willing to stand around frustrated hearing "holding for smoke machine! some machine resetting! OK now we have to waft it. Wafting! Ok that's now it's dissapated too much. We need more smoke. OK smoke coming in! Wait. It has to reset again. Holding for smoke machine ..." repeat :) If you are willing, or forcred to put up with that then you can get that big budget hazer look with a party smoke machine and a wafting board.

All someone has to do is notice that that was a key element of the look and realize they can obtain it.

Matty_g
11-23-2009, 01:03 PM
One other thing I wanted to mention was GET CREATIVE with your props/art direction!
I didn't like the ONE white wall in the main set so we taped up wallpaper.
The cops badge is made of pastic and says something like, "TOP COP KID PATROL"
and his walkie is a cell phone car charger with gaff tape buttons.

Also, while that O2 spaceship set looked GREAT on camera (MUCH of that due to Levie Isaacks ASC) When you were on it just looking around it was mostly just spare computer parts and trashcan lids.

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-23-2009, 01:20 PM
...
The cops badge is made of pastic and says something like, "TOP COP KID PATROL"
...
heh heh, I had a plastic Texas Marshall badge that I used for a web pilot.

I had one closeup of it to establish the character and place and used photo shop and after effects to composite "Shady County" over where the badge said "State of" and "Sheriff" over where the badge said "Marshall". I made the badge in Photo Shop and it was easy to track on the basically 2D shot in After Effects given that I was tracking it onto a 6 point star.


SCREENGRAB from FINISHES FX SHOT
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=182&pictureid=2088

ORIGINAL:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=182&pictureid=2087

Basically there was no time or money to have a custom badge made. So you see this closeup to establish a few things right away, then we never feature it again.


Also, while that O2 spaceship set looked GREAT on camera (MUCH of that due to Levie Isaacks ASC) When you were on it just looking around it was mostly just spare computer parts and trashcan lids.
And an amazing amount of painted styrofoam fast food containers like big mac containers. and quite a few tripod cases.

Slimothy
11-23-2009, 01:24 PM
I know this has been mentioned but I find it probably some of the most valuable stuff in the thread so far. Jack and Jason hit it right on the head: write for what you have access to. You've got 6 minutes and you've got to fill it with as much interesting shi* as possible.

What is interesting? What would you want to watch? What do you want it to feel like? These are all the questions I asked myself before thinking: "Dude...This chick has to wake up with a stake in her heart....." I knew that would grab people and at least keep them interested. Not to mention it's a very easy thing location-wise.

Locations are always one of the most difficult things to obtain but I think you'd be surprised how interesting some of the locations you have access to actually are. Whenever I'm in other states I always think "Damn, look at these locations, no one would ever bother us here!" In L.A. it's much more difficult to steal locations and I've got friends in KY that say they got permission to use the local prison for free!!! A lot of Dvxusers live in some of these areas where locations can be obtained for nothing. I believe your location is so important in getting across whatever the point of the story is and it can really either help capture people immediately or throw them off immediately.

Aside from stealing or using your own location there are always the other cheap ways to save money. The badge for the police officer cost $2.50. The police clothes came from a friend who went to police academy and if you'll notice on the arm it says "trainee." The American flag was a badge that was gaffed on, the wardrobe was bought at thrift stores, the carpet was taken from a friend who was moving out of his home, the blood was made by me, the crew worked for free, the actors worked for next to nothing, the flourescent lights seen in the background were bought at LOWES and RETURNED!!!

It's all about hustling and working your ass off the days before and the day of.

Zak Forsman
11-23-2009, 01:30 PM
on every feature i've made there has always been a run to home depot and k-mart with 90% of it returned the day after we wrap. no shame. :)

Slimothy
11-23-2009, 01:32 PM
on every feature i've made there has always been a run to home depot and k-mart with 90% of it returned the day after we wrap. no shame. :)

Awesome! I don't know if I can still show my face at Lowes, one time I basically did all the production design for a music video from Lowes. Curtains, lights baseboards, wallpaper etc. Had to return 90% of it.

Do whatcha gotta do.

Zak Forsman
11-23-2009, 01:33 PM
Anna's Linens has a good return policy too.

Rodney V. Smith
11-23-2009, 02:35 PM
Filmtools.com has this great product "Diffusion in a Can".. http://www.filmtools.com/diffusionincan.html

Very useful for those without hazers or fogmachines. I'm sure more than one of us could use something like that. I know I can, it's just taking it back to Canada with me...

Rodney V. Smith
11-23-2009, 02:38 PM
You guys made some great points here about the production of this film. ANYONE of us could have made it. It was simple enough and the techniques used are available to each and everyone.

J.R. Hudson
11-23-2009, 09:12 PM
One other thing I wanted to mention was GET CREATIVE with your props/art direction!
I didn't like the ONE white wall in the main set so we taped up wallpaper.
The cops badge is made of pastic and says something like, "TOP COP KID PATROL"
and his walkie is a cell phone car charger with gaff tape buttons.

Also, while that O2 spaceship set looked GREAT on camera (MUCH of that due to Levie Isaacks ASC) When you were on it just looking around it was mostly just spare computer parts and trashcan lids.

Yes yes yes yes !

Rodney V. Smith
11-23-2009, 09:13 PM
Yes yes yes yes !

Uh oh: I think JR just got waaaaaaaaaaaaay too excited with the description of sets. You do know that was "sets" not "sex" right?

J.R. Hudson
11-23-2009, 09:15 PM
Oh shit; sorry. My bad.

-

But really; I can't even deal with white walls and empty basements. Set Design is crucial.

But uh

Yeah, I thought it said Sex.

Rodney V. Smith
11-23-2009, 09:19 PM
Gives new meaning to "painting the walls" there JR.

I totally agree on the plain white walls issue. I'm actually looking at some of the ugliest wallpapers known to man to dress any future sets and now have to research nondestructive ways of mounting said wallpaper. Apparently people respond more positively to wallpaper than to painting their house... go figure.

J.R. Hudson
11-23-2009, 09:25 PM
Lol

He said 'painting'

I think we touched on this in another thread recently; not only is set design aesthetically cool, but it absorbs sound as well.

Rodney V. Smith
11-23-2009, 09:32 PM
I was watching "Lucky Number Slevin" recently and man they had an awesome collection of ugly wallpaper. Really made the scenes visually interesting so I'm thoroughly invested in following in that same line of thought. If it looks pretty in person, it's not that interesting on camera...

Absorption of sound is also very useful. Less echo, but then again good microphone placement is useful there too...

Matty_g
11-23-2009, 10:09 PM
Rodney, we used clear tape to hold it up on dispatch. Geoff and Luis did an amazing job with it.
It was actually cream colored with small tan/brown stripes but ANYTHING helped.

I'm personally a fan of ugly wallpaper and shag carpet but it isn't for every story.
check out this music video FULL of it from one of my favorite dp's
http://mattiasmontero.com/music-videos/the-concretes/

EditPhish
11-24-2009, 11:12 AM
Congrats on the win man... awesome job!

abalex
11-24-2009, 11:28 AM
I've used that "diffusion in a can" when I shot No middle ground, it worked perfectly!

Slimothy
11-24-2009, 01:22 PM
Thanks a lot everybody. We had a blast and really learned a lot from this project.

T

Ramon Boutviseth
11-24-2009, 10:23 PM
great film guys. congrats

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-24-2009, 11:42 PM
Hey Tim, we have a press release for Monste Fest
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=1822459#post1822459
And it links back here for reviewers to get info on your film.
So make sure the first post says what you want it to / credits everyone as you'd like.

Mark Johnson
11-25-2009, 07:05 AM
That's a great blog post, Jack. Many thanks again to you for working up the contacts for DVXUSER.

Also was nice talking to you while we were at the Waffle House last night. My boy asked who the call was and it gave me an opportunity to tell him how I first met you and the adventures in New York shooting Rekindled with you. ....

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-25-2009, 08:38 AM
Mark, he's not old enough to hear stories like that. :)

Jack Daniel Stanley
11-26-2009, 12:17 AM
OK. Congrats Tim / Fat Monster on what I think is your first review:
LINK IN SIG.

He calls you NOBEL O but you can replace that with [Director Hyten] or [Fat Monster] when you quote it.

Slimothy
11-26-2009, 01:09 AM
OK. Congrats Tim / Fat Monster on what I think is your first review:
LINK IN SIG.

He calls you NOBEL O but you can replace that with [Director Hyten] or [Fat Monster] when you quote it.

Sweet!

Shawn Philip Nelson
11-26-2009, 01:23 AM
Btw, was thinking about your tactic of changing white wall to ugly wallpaper and I really dig it. You mentioned you taped wallpaper to the wall...how the f did you do that without it being all bubly? any bts shots of that going up?

Darkline
11-26-2009, 11:00 AM
LOL

I just found out this was Fat Monster.

Dam, just stop it you guys. Seriously, stop it.

dam.

really good film.

cinealma
11-26-2009, 11:21 AM
Been out of it for the last week, but I just wanted to drop in and say congrats on a nice piece of filmmaking. I had a feeling there was some great talent behind this one.

Always a pleasure.

Mark Johnson
11-26-2009, 11:51 AM
Happy Thanksgiving everybody. May you enjoy the day wherever you may be.

Mark Johnson
11-26-2009, 08:50 PM
CLICK BELOW to see some BTS from the Dispatch shoot:

http://www.fatmonsterfilms.com/BTSimage.jpg (http://www.vimeo.com/7842706)

Sprocketboy
11-26-2009, 09:08 PM
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure Brandee appreciates your camera work on the BTS footage. One question, why is there gaffer's tape around the anamorphic lens?

Slimothy
11-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure Brandee appreciates your camera work on the BTS footage. One question, why is there gaffer's tape around the anamorphic lens?

Diopters had to be taped on for ECUs.

cinebuddy
11-29-2009, 11:52 AM
Is that latex for the vampire face or cgi?

Blaine
11-29-2009, 11:56 AM
Is that latex for the vampire face or cgi?It was practical (latex). Done by Marina.

cinebuddy
11-29-2009, 12:03 PM
Marina is damn good! Excellent production guys.

Shawn Philip Nelson
11-29-2009, 02:59 PM
nice video!!

What gel was it that Geoff and the breasts were taping onto the fluoros? I really liked the color it cast. I presume those were 5000k or something else?

Also, how did you tape the wall paper to the wall so well without it bubbling up?

thanks!

cinebuddy
11-29-2009, 03:02 PM
That shot you mention Shawn was some fine cinematography.

eustace
11-29-2009, 04:09 PM
wow! just got around to seeing this today, so sorry i'm a month late, but: really nice work, guys! especially liked the pacing - kept me intrigued the whole time.

Gord.T
11-29-2009, 04:32 PM
Looked good and everything. Still thought is was pretty lame. I mean, I watched a girl pulling a stick out of her chest for about 70% of the short. Great acting and all. Still pretty lame story though, if there was one. Yeah, sorry man, I didn't dig it as a short story or as a short film. But grats on the effort and for winning. People are weird and I guess I'm one of them, then, lol. meh...Congrats.

Geoff_R
11-29-2009, 07:11 PM
nice video!!

What gel was it that Geoff and the breasts were taping onto the fluoros? I really liked the color it cast. I presume those were 5000k or something else?

Also, how did you tape the wall paper to the wall so well without it bubbling up?

thanks!
Can't remember the gel, maybe half blue(quarter?)... Maybe matty will poke his head in here and remember. The lights themselves were I think around 4000 or 4100k to start. We had a nightmare of a time trying to find small flo's as we had that didn't require wiring. We wanted ones that we could just switch on and gaff tape wherever we decided to place them.

Wallpaper was actually pretty easy... just pulled it super tight... taped the top really well... pulled it super tight, taped the middle... bottom... corners, etc. We used heavy duty clear packaging tape so it held pretty well.

Shawn Philip Nelson
11-29-2009, 08:21 PM
Can't remember the gel, maybe half blue(quarter?)... Maybe matty will poke his head in here and remember. The lights themselves were I think around 4000 or 4100k to start. We had a nightmare of a time trying to find small flo's as we had that didn't require wiring. We wanted ones that we could just switch on and gaff tape wherever we decided to place them.

Wallpaper was actually pretty easy... just pulled it super tight... taped the top really well... pulled it super tight, taped the middle... bottom... corners, etc. We used heavy duty clear packaging tape so it held pretty well.

can't be halft ctb, way too much green in it for that (unless the fluoro haf a huge green spike to begin with). Looks like a special steel blue or something.

On the wallpaper, thats pretty good, looks glued on.

Dauntless
11-29-2009, 08:43 PM
Grats on 1st prize, you all deserved it!... thanks for sharing the behind the scenes footage also, it helps alot:)

Slimothy
11-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Looked good and everything. Still thought is was pretty lame. I mean, I watched a girl pulling a stick out of her chest for about 70% of the short. Great acting and all. Still pretty lame story though, if there was one. Yeah, sorry man, I didn't dig it as a short story or as a short film. But grats on the effort and for winning. People are weird and I guess I'm one of them, then, lol. meh...Congrats.

Are you saying we have to make it look good AND not have a lame story?

Slimothy
11-30-2009, 02:56 AM
Grats on 1st prize, you all deserved it!... thanks for sharing the behind the scenes footage also, it helps alot:)

Mark was running around with his flip camera. Those things are pretty awesome. For the price you can't beat them.

Matty_g
11-30-2009, 06:48 AM
Geoff and I went to home depot looking for small flous with ballasts we didn't have to hook up.
The hard part is finding them in daylight or cool white. We never did. Called Tim and Luis who were making their own run to home depot and they said they found some.
When we got back I found out they never checked the color temp of the fixtures, just that they were indeed, small flous with a ballast. They were damn near tungsten, so we ended up doubling up on the steel blue gel.

bruceallen
12-04-2009, 06:06 PM
Well I started writing a review a few weeks back when you had 10 pages of comments... and now you're at 31! And you won the fest ;)

So I'll keep it brief:

CONGRATS! Great stuff. In the first 30 seconds you already feel that this is a very confident and assured filmmaking. Also, humble filmmaking. You respected the audience enough to give them a really well-crafted piece.

Acting, production design, sound and cinematography (yaay Matt and Geoff) was great, of course. All pulled together masterfully by the director.

Pretty soon we could guess where it was going - but the same can be said for most Hollywood films, books, Shakespeare, etc. The thing is that the filmmakers have treated us with respect up to this point and we the audience feel confident that watching the details and small twists unfold will be totally satisfying. And they were! Thank you for making this.

Congrats and all the best with the festivals!

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

cinematical
12-09-2009, 12:58 AM
Just watched it, and thought it was fantastic. Keeps things simple and doesn't try to do too much in 5 minutes. I particularly liked the sound design. Really great job.

Brad S.
12-09-2009, 09:17 AM
Just watched it, and thought it was fantastic. Keeps things simple and doesn't try to do too much in 5 minutes. I particularly liked the sound design. Really great job.

Thank you!

Mike Manning
12-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Did you guys use the Hot Rod Camera's PL mount for this shoot?

Matty_g
12-14-2009, 08:41 PM
Yes we did. A fantastic piece of gear.

bwwd
12-14-2009, 09:07 PM
You shot this with one lens ? What kind of anamorphic you had and what did you had on the front of it ? Was it 50mm lens or 35mm ?

Matty_g
12-14-2009, 09:50 PM
35mm,50mm, and 80mm anamorphic

bwwd
12-15-2009, 08:24 AM
Thx , i guess there was crop factor on gh-1 sensor , was it very noticeable ? Ive seen something taped to the front of the lens in the making of ,or maybe its how the lens looks like.Anyway ,this looks incredible ,you did amazing job,its not easy to make it look like that ,like big budget hollywood film.

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-15-2009, 10:51 AM
The crop factor in the GH1 is minimal. Compared to 35mm motion film you have to stand back .3 times farther than you would to get the same framing. So 1 foot becomes 1.3 feet. 10 feet becomes 13. Not all that different.

Chris Messineo
12-15-2009, 12:00 PM
I just saw that this was a Fat Monster production. Why am I not surprised? :)

This was a first class production all the way. I love the attention to detail.

Awesome film.

Mike Manning
12-15-2009, 12:31 PM
Yes we did. A fantastic piece of gear.

Seriously... that thing makes the GH1 worth it's wait in gold

Darkeyesuk2000
12-30-2009, 12:18 PM
what was the budget on this movie?

Gord.T
01-05-2010, 11:45 PM
Are you saying we have to make it look good AND not have a lame story?

Hey Tim. Yeah, yeah, hehe.

Just a couple gripes on a recurring mentality I've noticed over the past few fests...

Ummm, story. Well, you guys have obviously done a great job, again.
I mean, for what it was, it was top notch.
Not something I look for myself in a short story and don't want to encourage anyone to follow your paths, because I don't believe your on the right one.


Like, "Let's do one scene from a hit feature and call that a short film". No. Please , God, no. I've seen that over and over again and those seem to be the ones that win. Please, to everyone else, do not, follow that menatality.

Let's get back to short film basics, can we? You know? A short film with a story?

Mark, you know animations are based and thrive on stories. You know that.
Check out Pixars "Partly Cloudy" on youtube. A 6 minute animated short.
Not the best imo but it works. It has a poo pooing story. Alright.

Lets get back to story telling, can we? And no, I still don't think you guys should have won. Friends or not. You had no friggin story regardless of how well you shot it.

My vote went to "Bit's and Pieces" for #1. But I love you guys, in a weird way, hehe. :)
Just saying, I'm not going to BS you guys.

Alright. I'll catch up with you guys in a bar sometime and have a few beers and we can punch each other out.
Good job guys. Grats on the win and for the many more to come.
Sincerely, Gord. Have a good year guys.

//edit: oookay, Pixars "Partly Cloudy" is no longer available on your tube. Tim, shoot me a PM if you'd like a version of that. :) Alright.

bwwd
01-06-2010, 11:15 AM
But in this short we were attached emotionally from first takes and in "bits and pieces" it was very slow and then child died,i didnt liked this story.
This short was intense and shot in hollywood big budget style, thats why it won.

Kyle Stebbins
01-07-2010, 05:56 PM
Beautiful imagery, nice soundtrack, and spooky mood. This one definitely kept me on the edge of my seat.

The plot seemed just a bit dull for my tastes, but the suggestive nature of each element was enough to satisfy me. I loved trying to figure it out the entire time... and truthfully was a little let down with having to use the cg for the monster. You were going down such a great road with the teasing, who says you have to pay it all off like that?

The real gem in this piece, I felt, was your actress. She was absolute gold. The throat noises, the squirming, and her gargles while calling 911 were nothing short of incredible. I hope you use her again.

Mad props on this film, everyone. I enjoyed it immensely. It's interesting, though... this film would have fit well in BetrayalFest

Matty_g
01-09-2010, 01:16 AM
The monster was practicle.

Slimothy
01-09-2010, 11:47 AM
GORD,
I appreciate you giving your honest criticism, seriously. It's not for everyone and I was actually really surprised people liked it at all (no bullshit.) I actually have been a bit drawn to a lot of the "bite of life" type shorts that I've seen lately and was inspired to do something like this. If you watch some of our other stuff it's more of a "short film" but we went for something different this time.

I do think we had a story and maybe it was just sooooo deep and intricate and complex that it messed up your hair when you watched it....

Obviously that was a joke but I do believe there was a story there.

Let me know which bar, I'll be there!

T




Hey Tim. Yeah, yeah, hehe.

Just a couple gripes on a recurring mentality I've noticed over the past few fests...

Ummm, story. Well, you guys have obviously done a great job, again.
I mean, for what it was, it was top notch.
Not something I look for myself in a short story and don't want to encourage anyone to follow your paths, because I don't believe your on the right one.


Like, "Let's do one scene from a hit feature and call that a short film". No. Please , God, no. I've seen that over and over again and those seem to be the ones that win. Please, to everyone else, do not, follow that menatality.

Let's get back to short film basics, can we? You know? A short film with a story?

Mark, you know animations are based and thrive on stories. You know that.
Check out Pixars "Partly Cloudy" on youtube. A 6 minute animated short.
Not the best imo but it works. It has a poo pooing story. Alright.

Lets get back to story telling, can we? And no, I still don't think you guys should have won. Friends or not. You had no friggin story regardless of how well you shot it.

My vote went to "Bit's and Pieces" for #1. But I love you guys, in a weird way, hehe. :)
Just saying, I'm not going to BS you guys.

Alright. I'll catch up with you guys in a bar sometime and have a few beers and we can punch each other out.
Good job guys. Grats on the win and for the many more to come.
Sincerely, Gord. Have a good year guys.

//edit: oookay, Pixars "Partly Cloudy" is no longer available on your tube. Tim, shoot me a PM if you'd like a version of that. :) Alright.

Slimothy
01-09-2010, 11:50 AM
Kyle!
Again, I do think this is the type of thing that a lot of people will like and an equal number will watch and think...."okay....now what?" But fuc k that second group of people!!!! j/k.

Cg monster? Gosh darn you Kyle. We raised you better. Next time Mark is in Nebraska I'm going to have him kick you in the vagina.

T


Beautiful imagery, nice soundtrack, and spooky mood. This one definitely kept me on the edge of my seat.

The plot seemed just a bit dull for my tastes, but the suggestive nature of each element was enough to satisfy me. I loved trying to figure it out the entire time... and truthfully was a little let down with having to use the cg for the monster. You were going down such a great road with the teasing, who says you have to pay it all off like that?

The real gem in this piece, I felt, was your actress. She was absolute gold. The throat noises, the squirming, and her gargles while calling 911 were nothing short of incredible. I hope you use her again.

Mad props on this film, everyone. I enjoyed it immensely. It's interesting, though... this film would have fit well in BetrayalFest

killacam
01-10-2010, 02:47 AM
I think there was a story there- it has a beginning, middle and resolution, although it does drop you in the middle. The beginning or backstory is eventually revealed though. I thought the fact that it dropped you in the middle of the scene was one of its best elements.



Like, "Let's do one scene from a hit feature and call that a short film".

Are you referring to any film regarding this one?

bwwd
01-11-2010, 01:41 PM
i was goin to ask the same qustion,can we have a title of it please?

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-11-2010, 02:43 PM
I think Gord just meant that it felt like a scene from a big budget horror feature. Not that they emulated a particular scene from any actual film. I think.

davidpula
02-02-2010, 12:48 PM
Can you please tell us exactly what lenses you used? Sorry if you already mentioned it but I can't find it in this thread.
thx

jeracravo
02-13-2010, 04:41 PM
They mentioned 50, 35 and another one, all anamorphic, but that was all they say.

macgregor
03-04-2010, 04:12 AM
Very good indeed!!!

Azmyth
08-13-2010, 01:39 PM
Question.

Do you think you could have gotten this same image had you not used the anamorphic lenses and the PL adapter?