UGH!!!! Hair brushing against mic during a shoot.

[Cracker]

Did a shoot recently, everything was fine until her hair began brushing against the lav mic. Now all the audio has this scrubbing sound in it. Please tell me there is a filter for this. :(

cheers to my learning curve.

[Cracker]

wow, that's bad. i don't think there is a filter in the world that's gonna take that out. i may go back and just get a VO

[Alex H.]

Yup... it's pretty much down to the "re-shoot" filter, or use a different clip, or live with it.

Honestly, I have to ask why this is coming out in post. Was there not a sound person there, or at least some one whose responsibility it was to listen through headphones during the shoot?

[NoahK]

Ha- yeah that's the 'fix it in production' filter.

Noah

[Cracker]

Yup... it's pretty much down to the "re-shoot" filter, or use a different clip, or live with it.

Honestly, I have to ask why this is coming out in post. Was there not a sound person there, or at least some one whose responsibility it was to listen through headphones during the shoot?

i'm the sound/camera person. yeah, i'm more than a little embarrassed at the moment. lesson: NEVER leave noise-cancelling headphones at home, NEVER trust earbuds. at least this was a spec-spot and not something i got paid for. basically the guy i did this for said, "well, if they want it to be perfect they'll have to pony up some cash." i'd rather learn something like this when i didn't get paid for it. i'm going to work around the noise as much as possible.

[Alex H.]

i'm the sound/camera person. yeah, i'm more than a little embarrassed at the moment. lesson: NEVER leave noise-cancelling headphones at home, NEVER trust earbuds. at least this was a spec-spot and not something i got paid for. basically the guy i did this for said, "well, if they want it to be perfect they'll have to pony up some cash." i'd rather learn something like this when i didn't get paid for it. i'm going to work around the noise as much as possible.


Well, I'm in Knoxville (Chattanooga-born, actually) if you ever need a sound guy.

[NoahK]

I'd say no to noise cancelling headphones for pro audio mixing- makes everything sound funny/inaccurate. Stick with Sony MDR-V6 series headphones- those are the one's you see on the big sets.

Noah

[Cracker]

I'd say no to noise cancelling headphones for pro audio mixing- makes everything sound funny/inaccurate. Stick with Sony MDR-V6 series headphones- those are the one's you see on the big sets.

Noah

i'm just saying for the shoot they would have helped me notice the snap-crackle-pop. But, I'll check into those Sonys as i get further involved in audio. Thanks for the tip!

And I'd like to say, your DVX dvd has helped me tremendously.

[Cracker]

Well, I'm in Knoxville (Chattanooga-born, actually) if you ever need a sound guy.

ahhhh, right on! awesome!

[DJDecay]

You can try taking it out manually from the audio file.

How long is the problematic audio and how much of it cannot be replaced from another shot or source like a boom mic? I mean word by word replaced. If its longer than 1 minute, scrap it and re-record wild audio and re-time it for lip sync.

There is no "filter" you can stick onto the track to remove this automagically(tm).

[Cracker]

You can try taking it out manually from the audio file.

How long is the problematic audio and how much of it cannot be replaced from another shot or source like a boom mic? I mean word by word replaced. If its longer than 1 minute, scrap it and re-record wild audio and re-time it for lip sync.

There is no "filter" you can stick onto the track to remove this automagically(tm).


It's okay, now. I went around it as much as possible and it's not that bad anymore. Most of her VO was garbage, "umm, ahhh, etc", or not finishing sentences, and that's where the worst of the worst of the brushing is. In order to get the audio to flow, I cut out a ton of it. The spot is a hotel walk-through with the sales director, not a paid actor or anyone remotely comfortable in front of a camera. It was my fault for not having the shotgun on as well as the wireless mic. So, I've learned a lesson.

[Zephyrnoid]

I'd say no to noise cancelling headphones for pro audio mixing- makes everything sound funny/inaccurate. Stick with Sony MDR-V6 series headphones- those are the one's you see on the big sets.

Noah

Hi Noah. I've been using MDRV6's for years and love them, BUT this scenario is different. Hair brushing on a lav may not have been detected even by the V6's and...
I've had problems at least on my rig that might be mitigated by the noise canceling version of the V6. Delay between the monologue that is sneaking into my ears from talent and the sound once it's been throught my recording path. It drives me nuts!.

TIPS: Always 'test fire' your lavs by trying to force bad sounds from adjacent clothing, hair, props etc. If you can hear stuff before monologue, get rid of it before shooting. For interviews I now insist on fuzzies for my lav capsules because they really help prevent those accidents.

ALWAYS use headphones, even if like the venerable V6's you get some delay, at least you'll pick up a nasty accident and can retake the shot.

I made that mistake of forgoing my phones to grab an important interview that was partly spoiled by wind noise I missed while shooting.

[Alex H.]

I've been in the field for years with the MDR-7506 headphones... you'll hear everything through those puppies.

[DJDecay]

MDR-V700 for me.