No More Pastel Colors

[zombiepictures]

I'm tired of pastel delivery HDV format and DOF adapters.
This is because this format (HDV) was designed to deliver bright colors in small sensors.
For more than 24Mbps to mention their bitrate, the quality of their texture is completely unrealistic.
Exemplifying the said (see second 9).
(You can see a completely blue pastel.)
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Furthermore, if this little information we add color digital color correction the result may be even worse being virtually monochromatic, as we see in this video.
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So if you look at the (Sony EX1) we can find one (codec) improved video. Which allows us to see a greater variety of hues.
An example can be found in this video (minute 1:30) which we can distinguish the texture of the fur of the lions to the texture of the grass of the place (which has a very similar tone) if that shot was done with HDV camera would likely be an agglomeration of colors.
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But remember that the Sony EX1 has a tripartite sensor which does not allow a depth of field management, such as a complete sensor.
But there are always exceptions to the rule. This video is very well designed to sort of texture that attempt to explain.
(HV20 letus extreme)
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o I'm very fascinated with the canon (eos 7d.)
After analyzing a large number of videos (eos 7d) concludes that prefer more real colors, similar to 35mm (analog) where there is more noise but at a larger scale of hues.
In my country (chile) in the audiovisual market is quite creative, but lacks the technical part.
For example here to make trade deal at most one (Sony HDV letus.)
As always criticize the same pastel colors, almost monochromatic and is accentuated particularly in the field out of focus.
Here is an example of Chilean spot:
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sorry, for this publication use google translator, I hope to form some opinion. I wonder of you:)

[Jason Ramsey]

don't have vimeo embedding set up... it's on the list... gonna replace motionbox with it, and maybe add a few others as well.

by the way, there is a footage sub-forum for the 7d.

[zombiepictures]

don't have vimeo embedding set up... it's on the list... gonna replace motionbox with it, and maybe add a few others as well.

by the way, there is a footage sub-forum for the 7d.

sorry im learnig to post
mi inglish is very bard jajaja. greetings

[Jason Ramsey]

welcome to the forum :)

For vimeo, just post a regular link to the page. We do not have vimeo embedding yet.

later,
Jason

[zombiepictures]

as change the title post for " NO MORE PASTEL COLOR2??

[Cranky]

This is because this format (HDV) was designed to deliver bright colors in small sensors.
Really? I thought that HDV has been designed to offer affordable HD video recording onto MiniDV cassette.


So if you look at the (Sony EX1) we can find one (codec) improved video. Which allows us to see a greater variety of hues.
Both HDV and XDCAM EX are 8-bit codecs and as such they technically allow the same "variety of hues".


But remember that the Sony EX1 has a tripartite sensor which does not allow a depth of field management, such as a complete sensor.
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After analyzing a large number of videos (eos 7d) concludes that prefer more real colors, similar to 35mm (analog) where there is more noise but at a larger scale of hues.
7D also uses 8-bit codec, therefore no "larger scale of hues".

Higher bitrate allows for smaller macroblocks. This may give an impression of "larger scale of hues".

[ydgmdlu]

7D also uses 8-bit codec, therefore no "larger scale of hues".

Higher bitrate allows for smaller macroblocks. This may give an impression of "larger scale of hues".
In the last part of his post, I thought that he was referring to film.

I think that what he's trying to say is that with an 8-bit codec, there is a limited range of colors that can be reproduced. Some cameras bias their selection of colors toward the brighter, more saturated end of the spectrum, a less natural range. And cameras like the EX1 and the 7D simply reproduce a better range (but the same, in terms of quantity) of colors.

I think that's what he's saying.

[taubkin]

From my experience with the 5D, the same 8-bit limitations apply. Very little leeway i post. The sensor, however, is much more powerful. So if you nail your image while you are capturing it, you get more color differentiation, but if you leave it for the grading section, there you have it, colors blurring one into another, and pastels everywhere (especially in the skin tones).

A good colorist, however knows how to respect the image's limitations and won't twist the image to a point where it's no longer rich in hue and contrast tonalities.

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

That David Bowie cover made me think and feel horrible things.