VMA Drama courtesy of twitter

[Mattykins]

So I didn't watch the VMA's today. Apparently I should have.

But twitter/facebook/youtube/tmz/and perexhilton made up for it.

So tonight - Kanye West stormed the stage while Taylor Swift was making her acceptance speech for winning best female video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdcY_3PdzBc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fperezhilton%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

Pink responds on Twitter:

Kanye west is the biggest piece of shi* on earth. Quote me.
about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter

Twitter and facebook light up.

Kanye is kicked out of the VMAs.

Youtube videos appear. TMZ finally catches up and publishes their own story.

Later, Beyonce calls Taylor Swift back up on stage to have her moment. Kanye responds:

poo poo YA'LL!! I don't gotta explain what I did tonight! Ya'll KNOW Beyonce had the best video and should have won! poo poo ya'll!
29 minutes ago from web

What the hell is going on with celebrities now-a-days?

[Chris Light]

this is a nice take--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBt4rRcrzXg&feature=fvw

i never liked him anyway.

[jpastuch]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VxKIcrDsJAs

[Hawk Teflon]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VxKIcrDsJAs

ha ha! that's awesome!

[Chris Light]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VxKIcrDsJAs

hahahaha...nice

[Mike Harvey]

And people wonder why I think Kanye is a waste of genetic material...

And I have to say, having just viewed both videos, Swift's was way better. Beyonce's was just her and two other dancers in leotards dancing. Nothing else. Swift's actually had something to do with the song.

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

Kanye responds:

poo poo YA'LL!! I don't gotta explain what I did tonight! Ya'll KNOW Beyonce had the best video and should have won! poo poo ya'll!
29 minutes ago from web
...That's odd. CNN, reported he immediately apologized on his blog, after talking to Swift's mom.

Probably staged anyhow. Swift got back on stage in the end (coincidence Beyonce would be up there later and it all ends happily ever after?), and Kanye (including swift and MTV) got ridiculous amounts of publicity for the new album... not to mention MTV got their annual big shenanigan. Can you think of an MTV award show in the last decade which wasn't defined by a wild stunt, scandal, or shocking event? (think courtney love drunk, eminem and bruno, brit kissing Madonna, etc.)

I don't want to sound all conspiracy, but MTV music awards have the credibility of the Teen Choice Awards, the sobriety of P. Diddy's after party, and the sensationalist scandals of a TMZ story. For a station which has not really cared to air music videos in the last 10 years, this annual awards show is a joke. Plus, last I checked, they award best cinematography and best editing awards without the names of the cinematographer or editor... just the video name. Lame. If those guys don't get to accept their awards for their hard work, then I really don't care much that a famous multi-millioniare artist was interrupted by another famous multi-million dollar artist... over the fact another multi-million dollar artist didn't win. The whole thing is really silly. I enjoy Kanye's music and his audacity, no matter how rude, is entertaining. I would be very upset about this incident had I ever thought for a moment, Kanye wasn't simply playing the clown at the MTV Music Awards Circus. The big scandal last year was staged, so who's to say tonight wasn't? If it wasn't it still looks an aweful like MTV's recent MO, and furthermore defines the type of award ceremony this is.... it's not the Emmy's or CMA's.

End Rant.


PS: It's not like they even judge the videos anyhow. They just take the top 5 hit songs and choose one of those videos. There have been many many brilliant and original visionary videos for lesser artists and they NEVER get picked up by MTV.

End Rant. Part II

[jpastuch]

I agree. I sort of feel dumb even talking about it AT ALL, but that video is hilarious. I really just kept picturing him as a clown. Who cares, at all, in any way, about awards? And even more so that it's an MTV award? It's meaningless- in every single way conceivable. But because it was a 19 year old girl, for some reason it matters? HER FIRST VMA! OH NO! Grow up. Someone with a sense of humor would have been on the floor of the stage laughing at such bizarre antics at such a bizarre place. The whole thing is just part of the odd obsession with celebrity everyone has.

[Nathyn]

Part of me hates that he did that but another part of me kind of hates MTV in a way and gets a big kick out of his terrorizing them. His clique is Jay-Z and Beyonce so if someone wins against him or them you never know what's going to happen. You have to hold your breath and now people just wait for the Kanye melt down. It's like part of the show. He'll be back next time too because MTV knows it will be big publicity. Think about how many times he does things like this yet still keeps getting invited back. (I wonder did he pick up a pay check before he was tossed). He's becoming the villain people love to hate like wrestling heel.

In all honesty it's just BS to get people talking. I wouldn't be surprised if Swift and the whole lot of them aren't somewhere making googly eyes at each other right now. Swift should thank him because now she'll be made into somewhat of a hero for the next few days while everyone will hate West.

If I was a singer I'd pay West to interrupt and we'd get into a fight on stage or something, or I'd get in his face and we'll have another phony rap beef then make up once the money rolls in (remember the 50 Cent Game beef and how quickly that ended once the money was made). For him no publicity is bad publicity. Beyonce is the real winner as she comes out looking like a class act and Taylor comes out looking like the sweetest thing. I love showbiz.


...That's odd. CNN, reported he immediately apologized on his blog, after talking to Swift's mom.

Probably staged anyhow. Swift got back on stage in the end (coincidence Beyonce would be up there later and it all ends happily ever after?), and Kanye (including swift and MTV) got ridiculous amounts of publicity for the new album... not to mention MTV got their annual big shenanigan.

I didn't read this before I posted but yea, you're on the right track. Half the couples in Hwood are fixed up by agents and managers. B and Jay-Z are hip-hop's power couple. Kayne is down with them.

-Nate

[Scott F]

Swift should thank him because now she'll be made into somewhat of a hero

She doesn't need any PR assistance. Don't you listen to Sirius Hits One ? Taylor Swift is all they play. (Well, her and Cobra Starship)


...the sobriety of (a) P. Diddy after party

Is that original material? I'm stealing it.

[grinner]

dude neded some publicity. It's either do stuff like this or hone some sort of skill.

[Mattykins]

I really don't think it was a PR stunt. I think it was a dude trying to be an ass and that's it.

Of course swift didn't respond on stage. What can you do at that point?

I think a 19 year old country singer winning a VMA for best female video is quite the accomplishment and should be able to have her moment. I'm sure if you won an academy award and someone hijacked your speech you wouldn't be saying "who cares".

I just found it "interesting", especially how quickly it spread online.

[Nathyn]

Swift could've said, "Kanye, are you off your meds again?" That right there would've done it for him and she would've been winner and champion. I would've said something like that at her age, especially knowing that he does this often enough to be an issue, but again I was a smart ass. All it takes is for someone to a). Not give him the microphone or b) Stand up to him. He's not tough and he's not going to hit you. He may be arrogant, but he doesn't seem to have any whit. And he'll come back again so the next morning all you'll hear about is the MTV awards just like, well, this thread.

And really, the Lady Ga Ga thing was interesting but all you're hearing about is West, Swift and Beyonce. And seriously, you notice he never does this to anyone who may whoop his @$$. Well, there's a reason for that. Would've been funny if Swift hauled off and decked him. It would've been so unexpected. Then Swift would get a contract with G-Unit and do Hip Hop Country joining the ranks of Kid Rock and Cowboy Troy, but cuter.

-Nate

[Jon Starr]

Well if it's not a PR stunt, you gotta give Beyoncé some credit for letting Taylor finish her speech.

I don't think it's a PR stunt, Kanye seemed a bit drunk and Taylor a bit speechless. Though I wouldn't all together be surprised if it was a stunt. I mean because of this and many many other incidents, the VMAs are known as the jerry springer show of music.

I mean every year it's something...

[Nathyn]

I don't think it's a PR stunt, Kanye seemed a bit drunk...
What else is new at the MTV Awards?



...and Taylor a bit speechless. Though I wouldn't all together be surprised if it was a stunt. I mean because of this and many many other incidents, the VMAs are known as the jerry springer show of music.

This is true and notice Kanye is never banned from MTV Awards shows, which would be the reasonable thing to do. If I won an award against him or any of his label mates I'd just be ready. Also, you mean NO ONE every sees him coming. Then later on Lil Mama jumps on stage with Jay-Z? Now that was funny.

-Nate

[jpastuch]

I really don't think it was a PR stunt. I think it was a dude trying to be an ass and that's it.

Of course swift didn't respond on stage. What can you do at that point?

I think a 19 year old country singer winning a VMA for best female video is quite the accomplishment and should be able to have her moment. I'm sure if you won an academy award and someone hijacked your speech you wouldn't be saying "who cares".

I just found it "interesting", especially how quickly it spread online.

In what world is a VMA an accomplishment? Let's be honest. MTV is a garbage heap, it was probably relevant at one point when people didn't realize it was just a big mass marketing gag.

But only someone with no sense of humor wouldn't laugh at such a bizarre incident. He literally just appeared on stage, yelled random things, shrugged, then disappeared. The SHRUG really made it. That's hilarious. He's a clown. People should laugh at this, and move on. I mean, that "BEYONCE HAD ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS OF ALL TIME!" soundbyte is comedy gold.

And if I won an Oscar, I wouldn't be there to accept it. I'd be sitting at home wondering what on Earth I did wrong.

[Mike Harvey]

And if I won an Oscar, I wouldn't be there to accept it. I'd be sitting at home wondering what on Earth I did wrong.


I agree... and an Oscar is a lot more credible than an MTV VMA. But to a 19 year old kid, it was still a big deal, and that jackass ruined it for her.

[Nathyn]

He still got applause and cheers on Leno. I'm waiting for that Country-Hop album that I know will come from all this. Come on, a duet between Kayne and Taylor. It will sale millions.

-Nate

[grinner]

He'd have to learn how to sing or something. I don't see that happening.

[Nathyn]

Nah, she'd just sing and he'd rap somewhere in the song. If Cowboy Troy can make it I'm sure Kanye and Taylor will blow em away LOL:

By the way: Cowboy Troy is a country rapper. His hit song was "Hick Chicks"
http://www.clevver.com/music/video/24039/cowboy-troy-hick-chick-featuring-angela-hacker.html

Dance Mix Version (Yes there is a dance mix version)
http://www.ffwd.com/videos/22237648?ctid=23&cvid=260701&nextvideo

-Nate

[Max Lamare]

I agree... and an Oscar is a lot more credible than an MTV VMA. But to a 19 year old kid, it was still a big deal, and that jackass ruined it for her.


Oh man if he walked onto the stage during the Oscar's and that BS when someone was winning an award. :eek:

[grinner]

I agree... and an Oscar is a lot more credible than an MTV VMA. But to a 19 year old kid, it was still a big deal, and that jackass ruined it for her.
actually, he handed her over night fame. I'm sure she appriciates the increase in record sales. "Bring on the drunken coat tailers!" says her lable.

[Nathyn]

actually, he handed her over night fame. I'm sure she appriciates the increase in record sales. "Bring on the drunken coat tailers!" says her lable.

Yep. I agree 100%. Yes she was already famous, now she's much much more. My mom's a 60 something black woman whose never heard of Taylor Swift...until last night.

-Nate

[KyleProhaska]

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs250.snc1/9723_153581652287_589612287_3416074_870435_n.jpg

LOL!

[Richard J. Johnson]

What Kanye did was wrong. But he's made some damn fine records.

President Obama even called him a Jackass.

[Scott F]

actually, he handed her over night fame. I'm sure she appriciates the increase in record sales.

I'll say it one more time in this thread.....she didn't need overnight fame via some publicity stunt.....Unless you are living in some cultural vacuum, you'd know that she is one of the most popular & sucessful artists right now.*

*Nathyn, no offense to your mother, but she is 60 years old. I don't think my mom knows her either. :grin:

[Everts]

Kanye's just angry he didn't get nominated for Best female video along side Beyonce and Swift.......
That explain's the hissy fit.

[Nathyn]

*Nathyn, no offense to your mother, but she is 60 years old. I don't think my mom knows her either. :grin:

Good point.

-Nate

[jpastuch]

I'll say it one more time in this thread.....she didn't need overnight fame via some publicity stunt.....Unless you are living in some cultural vacuum, you'd know that she is one of the most popular & sucessful artists right now.*

*Nathyn, no offense to your mother, but she is 60 years old. I don't think my mom knows her either. :grin:

I guess I was living in a cultural vacuum, because I didn't know who she was until this stunt happened.

I did hear 10 seconds of one her songs though, and my ears starting melting. Her music is super boring.

[Scott F]

How bout 3Oh!3? Ya heard them? :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

[oneinfiniteloop]

3Oh!3 are awesome, hilarious lyrics.

On the Kanye v. Swift note, what he did was wrong and rude and etc, but he was kind of right. How does Beyonce win Video of the Year but not Female Video of the Year? Yeah, yeah, we all know there isn't an ounce of legitimacy in the VMA's, but in the world of the VMA's, MTV proved him right by giving Beyonce Video of the Year.

[Drew Ott]

http://kanyelicio.us/http://www.dvxuser.com

[ChipG]

Well if it's not a PR stunt, you gotta give Beyoncé some credit for letting Taylor finish her speech.

I don't think it's a PR stunt, Kanye seemed a bit drunk and Taylor a bit speechless. Though I wouldn't all together be surprised if it was a stunt...


Kanye West and Taylor Swift both have the same agent FTR, Dave Wirtschafter.

MTV's audience thrives off drama, I can do the math.

[Nathyn]

http://kanyelicio.us/http://www.dvxuser.com

OMG! Dude you win! This is freaking cold! And it still works in the background. That is wild as hell!

-Nate

[Jon Starr]

Kanye West and Taylor Swift both have the same agent FTR, Dave Wirtschafter.

MTV's audience thrives off drama, I can do the math.

Kanye is known for being a douche. Hasn't he done something like this before at another awards show?

I mean maybe you're right, and it is obvious. But I don't believe in the "any press is good press" philosophy. I mean people are telling me how they're taking his music out of their mp3 players. It's negatively affected Kanye. Janets nip slip, that screams PR stunt. This, not so much, not to me at least.

Also, watching the interview with Taylor on the view, she seemed genuine. Watching Kanye on Jay Leno, he seemed genuinely... down and messed up from all the problems it's caused him. I also doubt they're both amazing actors that they could pull this off for so long and fool everyone. They're singers not actors (Taylor's videos show her range of acting abilities after all, which isn't much).

[Max Lamare]

What Kanye did was wrong. But he's made some damn fine records.

President Obama even called him a Jackass.


Your winning an academy award giving your speech. Following? Then one and only Kanye West walks up grabs the mic and says "Beyonce's videos are the best". Hmm.

[Doc Bernard]

Man, I need an actor who looks just like Kanye. I had this idea to send in to SNL. Have him interrupt funerals, daycare centers, surgeries, etc. (all staged of course) Then have the actor make stupid a$$ comments about what was going on and how beyonce was better at doing that. I think that it would......

No, Kanye get away from my keyboard, you ain't interruptin' me be-yatch.

[ChipG]

I also doubt they're both amazing actors that they could pull this off for so long and fool everyone. They're singers not actors (Taylor's videos show her range of acting abilities after all, which isn't much).

Ohh please,

They are performers. Musician / rappers / performers make the best actors, masters of working the audience, any 12 year old could pull this off btw.

Kanye West knows exactly what he was doing. He posed on the red carpet holding Cognac, so he could blame the alcohol if he had to. I don’t know if the reaction was what he was expecting but the whole thing had to be pre-planned.

He was booked before the VMA's for Leno, it had the highest raings for a talk show premiere EVER! Stunt for Leno's raings?

Let your friends remove thier mp3's, they already bought them (or stole them).

On Leno he was more stunned from a reaction that was far bigger than expected. "How would your mom react to his" not much of a response, more like holy shi* this turned out worse than my agent told me it would. My oppinion.

He'll blame it on alcohol or drugs, goto rehab for 30 days and be back bigger than ever.

He should go into acting.

I have no doubt this was a stunt.

[Nathyn]

I just can't shake the feeling that Chip's right about the whole thing. And Kanye always makes it a point to mention that he drank before these outburst.

-Nate

[ChipG]

Leno's raings were roughly 18 million Monday. Tuesday without Kanye around 10 million.

Leno should have booked Taylor Swift for Tuesday.

[ChipG]

I'd also bet that Taylor and Kanye's agent Dave Wirtschafter who is the former co-ceo of WME has very close ties to Leno's agent.

99% of this crap is pre-planned

[Richard J. Johnson]

I'd also bet that Taylor and Kanye's agent Dave Wirtschafter who is the former co-ceo of WME has very close ties to Leno's agent.

99% of this crap is pre-planned

I know his outburst at the Europe MTV awards was pre-planned.

[armisiano]

If you haven't heard it yet, this is the single greatest audio clip ever, no question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Oh8uqMyWo

[KyleProhaska]

I think it's kinda annoying that Obama saying something that doesn't take much effort to agree with has people that hated him yesterday suddenly call him awesome...people are so lame, lol.

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

From another place on the interwebs:




It turns out both artists have the same agent, David Wirtschafter. Not only that but David Wirtschafter is also 50 Cents agent.

If you remember, a year ago there was a beef between 50 Cent and Kanye West right before their albums dropped. 50 Cent said he would retire if Kanye sold more albums then him because Kanye’s music is garbage. Later both artists admitted the “beef” was staged to promote their album releases."
The saddest part is that unlike past fake feuds and staged incidents, this one, if fake, will have to never be revealed or risk embarrassing many people. I think if it's fake, (which I do), they went in over their heads. Taylor Swift will look foolish and be disliked for fooling us, Kanye will become a martyr for not being the villain we made him out to be, Jay Leno will look desperate for playing along with it for ratings, and even people including Obama (who referred to Kanye as a jackass), will be proven to have been fooled.

Wag the Dog.


ps: Skit from BEFORE the recent VMA's

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10349/saturday-night-live-106-and-park-with-kanye-west

[Nathyn]

Like I pointed out the next day it was all about Kanye and Swift. By the way Patrick that SNL clip was hilarious. Also like I pointed out if Kayne was so bad why has the VMAs not simply banned him. Obviously this kind of thing brings attention and in the end everyone comes out smelling like a rose.

-Nate

[ChipG]

Yep, NBC/Universal owns Leno and Kanye... Ha! Told you his agent is good!

[ChipG]

FYI Who would want to buy music from a nice rapper?

Is it gangsta to be a good guy?

Does that sell rap albums?

Ha ha ha ha ha

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

FYI Who would want to buy music from a nice rapper?

Is it gangsta to be a good guy?

Does that sell rap albums?

Ha ha ha ha ha

http://www.muzikalmafia.com/images/big-willie-style1.jpg

[ChipG]

Yea, I did like that summer tme song in the 90's. Now you gotta be gangsta if you want to sell rap albums. A bad ass rebel...Kicked outta everywhere. The worse of a person you are the more records you sell is how it works, for gangsta's.

[ChipG]

BTW the sympathy Taylor is getting is priceless, that sweet, sweet girl (makes me want to buy her albumn) :) What a win, win & win for Leno too.

I'll bet thier agent will be getting a raise soon. Ohh yea, MTV's rating have gone through the roof for the VMA re-airs... one more win. NBC had the hiest ever ratings, this would be the agent I'd love to have rep me! Man, he is good. More like, DAMN! He is good.

[ChipG]

Yep, it's 6:00am here and guess what, the VMA's are on again for the 20th time. ha ha ha

[MattinSTL]

I heard about this on HS... and started to read about it here... and then suddenly I realized "oh yeah, I don't give a sh*t"...

:)

I might be in the wrong industry for having such a complete disinterest in pop-culture...

The ONLY thing about this that would really get my interest is if it was a put-on... but then again, it's not like it's even remotely hard to corral sheep.