View Full Version : 7D is a major rip-off in Australia...
Jean Dantes
09-03-2009, 02:12 PM
Price just came in for the 7D down here...and it's for the body only...they wan't $3000AUD (Australian Dollars)....
http://www.teds.com.au/www/6/1001102/displayproduct/canon-eos-7d-body--3408858.html
Ted's is one of the biggest retailers of cameras down here too...
The 7D body retails in the US for $1700...and considering our dollar currently buys 0.84USD, that should work out to be $2027...not $3000!
Might as well stop researching the 7D and just grab a GH1...can get that for $2299AUD.
One last option though...my best friend is coming back from Japan next week...there is always the option that he could grab me a 7D from Japan...I wonder if they have PAL 7D's there? Anybody know?
sblfilms
09-03-2009, 02:25 PM
Maybe it is because I have an undergrad in economics and a masters in finance, but these posts make me put my head in my hands every time.
Prices in different regions are not simply based on exchange rate. There are a ton of factors like taxes on the end user, tariffs on the importing agent, relative income levels, cost of business differences for the same company in different countries, and the list goes on.
Jean Dantes
09-03-2009, 03:19 PM
I dunno about that man. I was a camera salesmen for two-years at a rather large electronics store, and everytime we got a new camera in, it was always $1000AUD above the store's cost price.
The GH1 was going for $3300AUD here. Two-months later, everyone is selling it for $2300AUD. And from my salesmen experience, and after speaking with my old boss a few hours ago (who is still the manager of the electronic store I used to work at), Canon's pro DSLR cameras rarely ever drop in price (unlike Panasonic, Sony, et al). It will most likely be $3000AUD for a while...
Mavoz
09-04-2009, 09:05 AM
What about the option of importing from the US? There'd be a tax hit for sure...but wouldn't it still work out better?
(or alternatively going there for a holiday and using it for a couple months! Better to put the $1000 to airfare/holiday!)
I guess warranty is the issue...but I haven't had a Canon warranty issue yet on there slr's...and if it came to it one could probably just send it back anyway for repair.
Maybe it is because I have an undergrad in economics and a masters in finance, but these posts make me put my head in my hands every time.
Prices in different regions are not simply based on exchange rate. There are a ton of factors like taxes on the end user, tariffs on the importing agent, relative income levels, cost of business differences for the same company in different countries, and the list goes on.
Don't really agree with this at all. In the end the consumer has to like it or lump it which seems pretty unfair. I purchased almost every single bit of my camera gear from the US because prices were often a third if not double the price here in good old oz. When you're buying a decent amount of stuff that quickly adds up to thousads of dollars difference.
sblfilms
09-04-2009, 09:39 AM
There is nothing to disagree about, this is quite literally microeconomics 101. Prices are not simply the price of the origin then multiplied by the exchange rate.
In Europe for example, manufacturers have to have stronger and longer warranties than companies in the US. The cost of covering items for sometimes 4 or 5 times as long as in the US coupled with having to cover MORE issues means the company has to price the product higher.
And you bastards in Australia should be happy that you are entering your 19th consecutive year without a recession :grin:
pix2pixels
09-04-2009, 06:32 PM
Pnasonic's suggested RRP for the GH1 was AUD $3200. As it started to reach the shops, they are sold in the $2200 to $2500 range.
The retailers will come to their senses very soon.
And you bastards in Australia should be happy that you are entering your 19th consecutive year without a recession :grin:
Yeah take that USA! lol.
I do understand your point but I'm just saying it's a very tough sell to the consumer paying a very large price variance.
squig
09-05-2009, 01:47 AM
Ted's always flog stuff for top dollar, when the online retailers start to list it it should be in the $2500-$2800 range. I bought my MKII from digital best buys, they had the best deal with a local warranty at the time. The other options are to get one from the US or HK but I think it might be quicker to get one in AUS because they might be backordered in the US for a while like the GH1 but they should be shipping in much great quantity than the GH1 so who knows. There's GST plus shipping plus customs clearance which will add over $300 to the cost, lets say $2400 in total so if an online store has them listed for a couple of hundred more it's probably worth it for the local warranty.
Rhys Day
09-05-2009, 02:59 AM
I think if you import something that's say $2000...you pay $350 extra on tax etc when it goes through customs, I think.
Anything over a grand you pay 10% on if memory serves me right. Damn customs got my HVX.
squig
09-05-2009, 03:07 AM
yep 10% over a grand plus a bit for customs clearance.
Jean Dantes
09-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Maybe I should get my mate to pick up a 7D from Japan and get it duty-free...
Jean Dantes
09-07-2009, 04:29 AM
Holy shite:
http://cameras.teds.com.au/search?asug=canon+&w=canon+7d
$4000AUD for Canon EOS 7D/15-85mm Kit...
bimdas
09-07-2009, 08:42 AM
this store seems to think the camera won't be more than $2200.
http://www.qualitycamera.com.au/canon-mega-pixel-camera-body-only-p-4880.html
Jean Dantes
09-07-2009, 10:56 AM
this store seems to think the camera won't be more than $2200.
http://www.qualitycamera.com.au/canon-mega-pixel-camera-body-only-p-4880.html
Wow, that's $800 cheaper then Ted's price...
I'm still waiting for a GH1 vs 7D shootout anyways, so I guess I can wait a little longer...
Thanks for the link! :)
powervideo
09-07-2009, 11:37 PM
Just got my invoice from Quality Camera. $2199 + GST = $2399.00. I thought of getting it from the US, but by the time you do the conversion from US$1700 + shipping + GST entry, I really don't think it's worth it. Plus QC's units come with Canon Australia warranty and the delivery queue may be quicker than US back-orders.
Peter
Jean Dantes
09-08-2009, 12:13 AM
Just got my invoice from Quality Camera. $2199 + GST = $2399.00. I thought of getting it from the US, but by the time you do the conversion from US$1700 + shipping + GST entry, I really don't think it's worth it. Plus QC's units come with Canon Australia warranty and the delivery queue may be quicker than US back-orders.
Peter
Congratulations mate!! Did they give you an ETA on when you will get it??
powervideo
09-08-2009, 12:20 AM
Late Sept/early Oct. Now I have to get all that Zacuto stuff and Sandisk cards.....
Jean Dantes
09-08-2009, 12:52 AM
Late Sept/early Oct. Now I have to get all that Zacuto stuff and Sandisk cards.....
Cool.
I wish I could afford the Zacuto stuff. If I go 7D, it's gonna be just the camera, memory cards, and a cheap EF series prime with manual focus...
I want 35mm EF f1.4...but that's $1900AUD...dunno what to get instead...?
edy4eva
09-08-2009, 03:26 AM
camerasdirect have the body only for $2329, and the plat kit (with 15-85 is usm lens) for $3299
That's excellent prices. I'm gonna cancel my adorama orders.
powervideo
09-08-2009, 04:46 AM
Grrr....$70... I guess I'll stick with Quality Camera though. At least their warranty is with Canon Oz, where as Cam Direct use their own guys.
Peter
edy4eva
09-08-2009, 05:31 AM
There is nothing to suggest that camdirect's 7d warranty is anything else but Canon oz
squig
09-08-2009, 05:42 AM
Just got my invoice from Quality Camera. $2199 + GST = $2399.00. I thought of getting it from the US, but by the time you do the conversion from US$1700 + shipping + GST entry, I really don't think it's worth it. Plus QC's units come with Canon Australia warranty and the delivery queue may be quicker than US back-orders.
Peter
Have they charged you for it?
Yeah I reckon it will be a lot quicker picking one up locally.
Just dunno if I want to part with my MKII just incase the 24p firmware comes, the bloomin pom still reckons it looks better, just gonna have to roll with both for a while.
powervideo
09-08-2009, 05:43 AM
The implication on their website is they use their own repairers. I not saying they are less capable than Canon, but it doesn't state the manufaturers provide the warranty. I was just showing out a point of difference.
All warranty claims/repairs are processed in Australia by authorised repairers.
All products sold by Camerasdirect have a One Year Warranty included in the advertised price.
This warranty is provided by Camerasdirect.
The warranty is a "manufacturers fault" type warranty that covers you against the cost of repairing a fault due to defective manufacturing.
The Camerasdirect warranty is non transferable.
powervideo
09-08-2009, 05:44 AM
Have they charged you for it?
Yeah I reckon it will be a lot quicker picking one up locally.
Just dunno if I want to part with my MKII just incase the 24p firmware comes, the bloomin pom still reckons it looks better, just gonna have to roll with both for a while.
I paid a $100 deposit. Balance on delivery.
squig
09-08-2009, 05:54 AM
I paid a $100 deposit. Balance on delivery.
fair enough
Jean Dantes
09-08-2009, 06:06 AM
Yo squig, don't part with your 5D MKII just yet:
http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/5d-mark-ii-firmware-update-2/
A rumour, but still, hold on a little bit longer I reckon!
squig
09-08-2009, 06:28 AM
Yeah I am, but I think I'll get a 7D to play with and see how well it holds up for myself. I think I'll be getting a new DSLR every 6 months or so for the foreseeable future.
Mavoz
09-08-2009, 06:38 AM
Cool.
I wish I could afford the Zacuto stuff. If I go 7D, it's gonna be just the camera, memory cards, and a cheap EF series prime with manual focus...
I want 35mm EF f1.4...but that's $1900AUD...dunno what to get instead...?
There is one lens that is an absolute 'no brainer' in my opinion...
I've been using the cheap 50mm 1.8 prime on my 40D...this thing is sensational value...while it's only plastic in construction the quality of the shots I get out of it is fantastic and it is great for shallow depth of field.
Am very much looking forward to one day using this lens to record HD video.
Jean Dantes
09-08-2009, 06:42 AM
There is one lens that is an absolute 'no brainer' in my opinion...
I've been using the cheap 50mm 1.8 prime on my 40D...this thing is sensational value...while it's only plastic in construction the quality of the shots I get out of it is fantastic and it is great for shallow depth of field.
Am very much looking forward to one day using this lens to record HD video.
I actually have my heart set on this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Canon-EF-50mm-f-1-4-USM-Lens-with-Cleaning-cloth_W0QQitemZ300340392797QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCame ra_Lenses?hash=item45edaeb35d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
But people are telling me it will become 80mm on the 7D due to crop factor. Now I'm trying to figure out how big of a difference 80mm would make...
edy4eva
09-09-2009, 04:54 AM
Ted's dropped the price down to $2599, by the sounds of it we should see it closer to 2000AUD on online au shops once it ships.
mickjones
09-09-2009, 06:11 AM
I've been buying all my stuff from BH photo and shipping it to australia. Even with shipping and tax it's a shitload cheaper! At the end of the day the mark up is ridiculous. Retailers buy at WHOLSALE prices. If I (as a consumer) can ship one item to my door and put 35% markup on it and still make it cheaper than a retailer, then something's a miss.
vx1kOrnot
09-09-2009, 07:00 AM
Georges camera shop will be selling it for 2500 AU body only
next week i think , should i buy it from there or Go B&H ?
Jean Dantes
09-09-2009, 09:59 AM
Wow, so cheap at B&H. I'd go for the "body only" version if it comes with an international warranty....
Jean Dantes
09-09-2009, 10:01 AM
Guess not. Says "1-Year Canon U.S.A. Warranty "....dammit lol
bimdas
09-09-2009, 10:33 AM
importing from b & h will come out to around $2200-2300 including gst, custom fees and shipping. Not to mention that australia post have now banned packages that have any type of lithium battery in it. Not worth it in my opinion.
mickjones
09-09-2009, 05:24 PM
importing from b & h will come out to around $2200-2300 including gst, custom fees and shipping. Not to mention that australia post have now banned packages that have any type of lithium battery in it. Not worth it in my opinion.
How on earth can Aus post possibly police that? How long has the ban been in place? I just received a shipment from BH Photo with li ion batteries. Although with BH photo it doesn't go anywhere near Aus Post. It's UPS or Fed Ex. I though tcameras had world wide warranties because they are travel/portable items?
Even if it works out at $2250 that's still a few hundred dollars of saving towards a nice lens or other gear.
bimdas
09-09-2009, 09:47 PM
I guess if it's going through a courier it doesn't matter. The ban came in a few months ago,
http://www.cnet.com.au/australia-post-bans-lithium-batteries-339297664.htm
I guess they got xrays and all that usual stuff to weed out drugs, bombs, lithium batteries.
reticulan5
09-09-2009, 11:01 PM
I've brought this up in other posts and forums.The few specialists stores that sell the Pro sumer to full broadcast and above have a monopoly pretty much.The mark up for retaillers is remarkable.I blame companies like Panasonic and Sony who allow only a few sellers the market in Australia.I have tried many times to have a dealership of sorts to no avail.
The people here need competition.Instead the few selling all sell the same price and won't allow anyone else in the game.The result is many of my camera friends buy overseas and or import directly.As soon as a new type of camera comes out .RED and Glidecam for example
The bullies quickly secure a exculsive dealership and no one else can buy but through them.