Canon 7D Press Release

[FatDaddy]

Looks like a google translation, but a lot to take in. Sweet upgrade:
http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/08/eos-7d-press-release/

[mhood]

Man, that's a hard read but I'm getting pretty excited! Articulated LCD?

[morgan_moore]

"In addition, can be realized per second 30/25/24 frames, resolution 1920 × 1080 pixel full HD movie capture, the use of high-definition picture quality (1280 × 720 pixel resolution) and standard-definition (640 × 480 pixel resolution) is able to 60/50 frames per second shooting. the shooting and the general PAL video formats (resolution 720 × 576 pixel, 25 frames / sec) compared to television programs, a higher quality, play a more fluid, and can support an external microphone stereo recording."

Looks good.

[mhood]

CF cards only?

[FatDaddy]

Yes, shooting 720, 640, w/ 720 60fps was news to me. I don't think it has an articulating screen. The other big news: end of September ship date!

Placing my order this week.

[Isaac_Brody]

Fingers crossed, hope this isn't a rumor and faked specs. If this is true then Canon just made things much more interesting. 24P and manual control with dual digic 4 should be sweet. We'll find out tomorrow.

[John Caballero]

It sounds very promising indeed. Wonder how much $$$$. Remember though that "tomorrow never comes".

[FatDaddy]

I think it was mentioned somewhere at $1699. Waiting to see if tomorrow will be disappointing. Hoping for 24fps & 720 60fps to stay true. That would make it worth it by itself (of course w/ manual controls). Not happy with a 1.6 crop factor for the stills side of things, but for video not that big of a deal. I don;t need to shoot with razor sharp DOF.

[Uwe Lansing]

That gave me goosebumps... I´ll place my order asap. Nothing about datarate + record time!?

[William_Robinette]

60p at 720p would be fantastic.

I'm not that familiar with Canon's line, where would this fit in compared to some of their other well known cameras?

[Lee Wilson]

Questions !

1) How good will the 7D be in low light (specifically compared tot he 5DII) ?
2) How much do you think the 7D is likely to cost ?
3) Who wants to buy my 5DII ?

[greymog]

I'm sold. How does one place an order?

[Taylor Rudd]

Questions !

1) How good will the 7D be in low light (specifically compared tot he 5DII) ?
2) How much do you think the 7D is likely to cost ?
3) Who wants to buy my 5DII ?

1) Yes
2) Probably
3) Nah

[Lee Wilson]

1) Yes
2) Probably
3) Nah

1) Great !
2) Are you sure ?
3) Damn !

[FatDaddy]

60p at 720p would be fantastic.

I'm not that familiar with Canon's line, where would this fit in compared to some of their other well known cameras?

Nikon and Canon battle between similar camera lines. This would fall in the Nikon 300s stills comparison (not close on the video side of things). It's an improvement to the Canon 50D that is already out. There is a little questioning about Canon's use of "7D" instead of 60D, so maybe that will get explained tomorrow.

[Rakesh Jacob]

BOIOIOIOIOIOIOIONG!!!!!
SCHWIIIING!!!!
HAPPY DANCE!
*this better be real or I'm killing someone with my bare hands*

[FatDaddy]

Questions !

1) How good will the 7D be in low light (specifically compared tot he 5DII) ?
2) How much do you think the 7D is likely to cost ?
3) Who wants to buy my 5DII ?

1) Should be close, maybe a little less (will see).
2) $1699 is the rumor
3) No thanks. It's great, so keep it and wait to see if 24fps will come as a firmware (if it is a hardware limit, then you will have to sell and get the 7D to get in camera 24fps).

[SPZ]

24/25p at 1080, 60p at 720. Sold! This was what I was waiting for. This is my next camera. As for low light, I'm 100% sure this thing will smoke my HVX out of the water, and might even be better than the Red One. It should most certain ly be better than 2/3rd CCD cameras.

[greymog]

I'm in. Searching everywhere to order, is ordering happening tomorrow?

I'm sorry I'm not informed on how to buy online, I read a couple of ppl said they're placing orders asap.

Where?

Man I'm hyperventilating this is it. A 5Dish pic in PAL and slomo.

[FatDaddy]

No word on orders. I think maybe tomorrow. Have to form a plan on how to get one the fastest - local or online? Will try both after the announcement.

[Isaac_Brody]

If the specs are true and it came in around 2K it would be a steal.

[Richard J. Johnson]

So no official announcement yet? 24p and 60fps with that image quality below 2 grand is crazy. I'm in if this stuff is true.

[f64manray]

More than anything, reading the specs for the 7D, seems to underscore how fantastic the 1DsIV will be. They really need to have a module that can attach to the 1DsIV (like the old motor drive for the F1) that has XLR inputs with a 1/4" headphone jack (a cine module). This will easily compete with the Red One. ... not that the 5DII doesn't already. Red really needs to reconsider their pricing. Things are changing quick.

[roxics]

More than anything, reading the specs for the 7D, seems to underscore how fantastic the 1DsIV will be. They really need to have a module that can attach to the 1DsIV (like the old motor drive for the F1) that has XLR inputs with a 1/4" headphone jack (a cine module). This will easily compete with the Red One. ... not that the 5DII doesn't already. Red really needs to reconsider their pricing. Things are changing quick.

But you forget, RED will also shoot higher resolution and uncompressed color.

[f64manray]

But you forget, RED will also shoot higher resolution and uncompressed color.


Yes, but at what price? True, you will always be able to extract more out of the RAW uncompressed image, but I'm sure many like me that have been working with the narrow tolerances of films like Velvia and 50D for decades are comfortable with the JPEG equivalent in video as long as the image can accept at least a moderate amount of grading which as I understand it, it will.

[NEEL]

But you forget, RED will also shoot higher resolution and uncompressed color.

Yep, but not before 2010. Canon seems to start shipping end of september...

[Taylor Rudd]

But you forget, RED will also shoot higher resolution and uncompressed color.

Not quite uncompressed...anyway...

Between RED and the 35mm adapter craze, people are more open to using awkward frankenstein rigs if it saves a penny and yields seemingly professional results. Enter VDSLRs, and once these kinks are ironed out over the next few years, we won't be seeing as much RED/35mm adapter action on the low-budget/indie front.

The D90 tried to innovate, the 5D accidentally innovated, and if the 7D is what we hope it is, the bar has been obliterated.

[Michael Olsen]

But you forget, RED will also shoot higher resolution and uncompressed color.

Not to mention modularity, benefits of higher framerates, monitoring abilities, etc. Makes me wish they had a time machine...

If the 7d does things right though, I might not care too much longer.

[Sumfun]

Sounds like they could have a winner here. I'd still like to see what the picture quality is like, though. Let's see the compression rate and if they just skip pixels to get the video.

[roxics]

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm all about the 7D if it is what it's appearing to be. I'd rather spend $1700 on a VDSLR that does 1080/24p then $3000+ on a 2/3" Red Scarlet. I can't really deal with 3K res on my budget anyway.

Just pointing out that Red still has more features. Even if they do come with a price.

[jdv]

What lenses would this thing use - standard Canon glass, or something specific to this camera only?

You guys know waaaay more about DLSRs than I do so please excuse my ignorance, but other than the 24p change (which I know is a big deal) why is this camera garnering so much instant excitement?

john

[Kholi]

To whom it may concern: 30/25/24p @ 1080 is true. 720/60p is not

Just got it confirmed.

[hermmermferm]

HDMI out, if that's true it's a 5D killer for sure. Canon 7D + AjaKi Pro anyone?

[mcgeedigital]

HDMI out, if that's true it's a 5D killer for sure. Canon 7D + AjaKi Pro anyone?


Maybe....IF there is no line skipping and IF the HDMI out doesn't have any menu overlays on it.

[Ian-T]

To whom it may concern: 30/25/24p @ 1080 is true. 720/60p is not

Just got it confirmed.
That’s strange….why would two different translations indicate otherwise? Unless of course it is read wrong. Here’s hoping…

[Kholi]

That’s strange….why would two different translations indicate otherwise? Unless of course it is read wrong. Here’s hoping…

Don't ask me. The person I always get my news from, though, (omitted) deals with canon often. Maybe it got snuck in?

Doesn't really matter... 24p is enough in the camera to hold out until Scarlet arrives. If the 60p is ethen that's just an addition that I'll never use anyway. I really just want 24p so I don't have to lug the RED around for small jobs.

[Isaac_Brody]

Just pointing out that Red still has more features. Even if they do come with a price.

Yep, 17.5K without a lens. Scarlet is a pipe dream right now. Nobody knows what it will be until it finally comes out. I don't even consider it an option because it's not on the timetable till sometime in 2010 at the very earliest, and that's subject to change.

[hermmermferm]

Maybe....IF there is no line skipping and IF the HDMI out doesn't have any menu overlays on it.

True.. those are really big "IFs" too.. doubt it. Way to kill my buzz.

[Michael Olsen]

Its actually interesting to me, given the success of the 5D MII and the pressure Canon has felt from the semi-professional and professional film sector, that their press releases aren't more specific in regard to the industry. The GH-1 had a similarly vague initial release and there was a lot about it that wasn't really known until it was in hands - HDMI out, audio capabilities, and the nature of the 1080/24p for example.

Here's hoping that companies will figure this out and start making more meaningful statements.

[f64manray]

What lenses would this thing use - standard Canon glass, or something specific to this camera only?

You guys know waaaay more about DLSRs than I do so please excuse my ignorance, but other than the 24p change (which I know is a big deal) why is this camera garnering so much instant excitement?

john

It will use standard Canon EF glass, but because of the crop factor, you will need to get used to how each lens performs differently ie; your 50mm will now perform closer to an 85mm. The 7D will take EF-S lenses as well which are designed for the cropped cameras such as the rebel series and now the 7D.

[FatDaddy]

To whom it may concern: 30/25/24p @ 1080 is true. 720/60p is not

Just got it confirmed.

No 720/60p? How quickly you can get disappointed. This is probably going to happen on a couple of items, but still this camera takes a nice step forward.

[Kholi]

Well, I do slightly hope that he's got that one wrong myself. Anything extra is fine, even if it just doesn't get used. But what he said was that it's mistranslated and it means that it can use shutters corresponding to different frame rates. 1/48 for 24p and 1/50 for 25p.

I did point out that it specifically said "Frame Rates" but let's see what happens tomorrow.

[Lammy]

So it can take EF and EF-S lenses??

24/25P? Yes!
Makes it better than the 5D MkII for me already!

[roxics]

Engadget is now pushing the rumored specs:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/31/canon-eos-7d-video-specs-get-detailed/1#c21269543

[Paprochy]

Well, I do slightly hope that he's got that one wrong myself. Anything extra is fine, even if it just doesn't get used. But what he said was that it's mistranslated and it means that it can use shutters corresponding to different frame rates. 1/48 for 24p and 1/50 for 25p.

I did point out that it specifically said "Frame Rates" but let's see what happens tomorrow.

"In addition, can be realized per second 30/25/24 frames, resolution 1920 × 1080 pixel full HD movie capture, the use of high-definition picture quality (1280 × 720 pixel resolution) and standard-definition (640 × 480 pixel resolution) is able to 60/50 frames per second shooting. the shooting and the general PAL video formats (resolution 720 × 576 pixel, 25 frames / sec) compared to television programs, a higher quality, play a more fluid, and can support an external microphone stereo recording. "

Looks to me like that implies actual faster frame rates and not shutter speed. Why would they mention proper 1/50 and 1/60 shutters since it's obviously a given, 5d already has it. I am banking on the translation being correct and we will get 720p50/60.

[squig]

:grin::dankk2::beer::thumbup::Drogar-Smoke(DBG)::2vrolijk_08::love4:

[Adam J McKay]

Well if the specs are correct, and the low light still performance is acceptable, Canon just won me over. This would be my current dream camera. As a filmmaker and a photographer...oh my.

Sorry Nikon. But there is a very small window of oppurtunity to step up the game before im out.

[jdv]

UK's Mirror talks 7D:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology/2009/08/31/canon-eos-7d-nears-launch-115875-21637653/

Hopefully this adding weight to a true announcement tomorrow...

jdv

[sunburst]

whats the guestimate to EASILY buy one and have it shipped?

[jdv]

...And Gizmodo's take on all the fuss:

http://gizmodo.com/5348618/canon-eos-7d-specs-leak-more-megapixels

john

[Isaac_Brody]

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=181848