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dacloo
08-29-2009, 12:18 AM
Hi!

I am experimenting with 1080p25 shots (shutter 50 and 100) and I didn't notice mud while panning (just motion blur). Before I bought the camera, I thought the 1080p film mode was useless, but it seems it can handle motion nicely.

Now do people have tips or experiences with mud? I know the lack of B-frames are the cause, but is there some kind of conclusion if mud can be more avoided, e.g with certain shutter/aperture settings?

Thanks!

Ben_B
08-29-2009, 01:25 AM
Try shaking it. Enjoy the mud. Lol. >.< :(

soarprod
08-29-2009, 12:38 PM
no cmos camera is good with shaking - ie rolling shutter.

Barry_Green
08-29-2009, 12:52 PM
If you want mud, shoot at f/22 with a high shutter speed, then pan around quickly. Maximizing the amount of detail and crispness maximizes the potential for mud.

If you want to avoid it, open up the iris, use a film-style shutter speed of 1/40 to 1/60, and move the camera more film-style. Taking those steps reduces the mud dramatically.

ryansheffer
08-30-2009, 08:06 AM
Barry is definitely right. The sad part is that I have still found mud to be present enough (somewhat randomly) that I would not use it on something professional unless it was mostly locked off.

I spend most of my time in FHD scared that mud is coming. I wish it were different.

ustein
08-30-2009, 08:16 AM
>shoot at f/22 with a high shutter speed, then pan around quickly. Maximizing the amount of detail and crispness maximizes the potential for mud.

Not sure f/22 maximizes detail. For still diffraction limits are reached at about f/8. But not sure where it would be for video. My clips looked quite blurry at f/22. More to check.

Mike@AF
08-30-2009, 01:07 PM
f/22 will get you bigger depth of field, thus increasing overall detail in the overall area of the image.