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dmoreno
08-20-2009, 04:37 PM
I am deciding what card to buy for my hopefully upcoming GH1. I found this information interesting and wanted to share:

I want to buy 8GB or 16GB SDHC because I need to be able to record continously for at least 1 hour, since sometimes I do weddings and don't want to change cards during the ceremony.

I have read several threads around here stating that a good SDHC Class 4 might work for most of us that plan to use the GH1 mainly for AVCHD video (people that want to record MJPEG or want to do burst raw photos may need a Class 6).

I also found this interesting chart http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/sdhc-memory-card-charts/Avergage-Write-Transfer-Rates,863.html. It shows the different actual average writting rates different types/brands of SDHC cards can really handle. hat might give you an idea of what brands perfom better.
For most of us that plan to use our SDHC cards to record video writting rates are much more important to reading rates, since reading will be done afterwards for editing. Also it is always important to be sure tests reffer to average speed and not maximum speeds that cannot be sustained and might be misleading. T

I checked both amazon.com and newegg.com for reviews on Transcend cards (class 6, 8GB and 16GB). On both this sites together 1500+ reviews can be found for this cards. This is a big enough sample to consider the information "statistically correct".
Around 10% of the reviews claim that their cards stopped working. Some of them didn't work from the start, some stopped working after a few uses and some stopped working after several months.

I checked the same way for A-Data cards (class 6, 8GB and 16GB) and around 20% of the reviews in both sites claimed the same problems. (I found 300+ reviews in total, not as much as with the Transcend brand, but enough to consider this information usefull)

Then I checked Sandisk Ultra II Cards (class 4) the same way. I only found 114 in both sites together, not as big a sample as I would have wanted, but good enough to give it some thought. Only 2.6% of the reviews claimed that their cards stopped working. Actually most of the bad reviews are due to not receiving the sd card reader that appeard on the product picture, or claiming they thought they were buying a Class 6 card because the card missguidingly states 15 MBps speed, which is a maximum burst speed but not a sustainable average speed.

It is important to note that Sandisk Ultra II Class 4 Cards cost roughly the same as Transcend Class 6 cards (like 10% more). A test should be interesting to test the actual writting speeds of this 2 cards. A-Data Class 6 cards cost about 30% less than Transcend Class 6 and 40% less than Sandisk Class 4.

I also checked Sandisk Extreme III (class 6). Found 104 reviews, less than 2% claim cards that stopped working (only 2 reviews). This cards cost 3 times as much as Transcend Class 6 and 4 times as much as A-Data Class 6.

Panasonic Class 6 cards cost twice as much as Sandisk Extreme III Class 6.

I tried the same on Lexar and Patriot cards but I didn't find enough reviews to reach any conclusions.

rawdod
08-20-2009, 04:42 PM
I just ordered a transcend 16gb card, thats all I can say.

dmoreno
08-20-2009, 05:10 PM
90% of those should work well! I am torn between Transcend Class 6 and Sandisk Ultra II Class 4. I guess I'll buy two 8GB cards, 1 Transcend and 1 Sandisk. The Transcend should be faster but the the Sandisk more trust worthy. I would use the Sandisk for the ceremony when shooting a wedding.

rawdod
08-20-2009, 05:18 PM
I can't really speak for flash but for hard disks in the server world, failure is essentially unpredictable across all metrics, including brand, if its a value drive or datacenter grade including even most operating temperatures. Avoiding a known bad model or series, and not putting all your eggs in one basket is the best you can do.

commanderspike
08-20-2009, 05:33 PM
99% of cards class 4 and above will work fine in the GH1.

The extra money spent on a Sandisk Ultra or Extreme will just give you faster transfer rates off the card, when you wanna get at your footage. And maybe better reliability although I have never had any problems with el cheapo SDHC cards, other than the build quality which can be a bit fragile.

dmoreno
08-20-2009, 09:00 PM
I agree 99% of cards 4 and above will work with the GH1... unless they are defective.
This appears to happen with 1 out of every 5 A-Data cards... just reads the reviews and you'll find lots of people talking about how they lost all their memories from a trip or footage they really cared about because of a cheap and defective card.
I guess you pay for quality control. And since the difference from a cheap possibly defective card and a little more expensive better working card is about $20 I wouldn't want to take risks for serious work.

dmoreno
08-21-2009, 02:03 PM
Just checked Kingston cards the same way. It appears they donīt make 16 GB SDHC Class 6 cards. I found 448 review for 8 GB Class 6 cards. 9% reported malfunctions. Several reported actual speed was slower than rated.
They cost about the same as Transcend cards.

EditorDZ
08-22-2009, 08:36 AM
For what it's worth, I just purchased a 32GB Extreme III from Sandisk for only $90 on ebay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250486143711&Category=18871&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2#ht_2892wt _1167

The price seems too good to be true (even got an additional 10% off through bing), and I'll let you all know if it's legit as soon as it gets here. If it is, the seller has several more.

-Dan

sammysammy
08-22-2009, 08:56 AM
toshiba class4 16gb ,got it for $30 at sam's club, works perfects ...

Ben_B
08-22-2009, 11:28 AM
Sandisk Ultra II have been working great for me. Picked up a few @ Costco for cheap. They have 2 x 4GB or 4 x 2GB for $30.

SonicStates
08-23-2009, 01:09 AM
Scandisk Ultra II 8GB - Never had a problem (but now that I have said that you can bet it will stop working immediately - so "touch wood")

Nighthawk
08-23-2009, 10:59 AM
Scandisk Ultra II 8GB - Never had a problem (but now that I have said that you can bet it will stop working immediately - so "touch wood")

You and I must have gone to the same school of optimism but I think that's the card I'll go to next. I did buy a couple of Ultra IIIs but feel I might have wasted a little $ on that.

SonicStates
08-23-2009, 09:31 PM
Well, the unthinkable has happened...it still works even after I jinxed it. Seriously though, good cards.

offstandard
09-04-2009, 03:05 PM
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/24121/3x-8GB-Sandisk-Extreme-III-Secure-Digital-Memory-Cards-30MBs-45-After-90-MIR

Sandisk has rebates on their Extreme III SDHC 4, 8, and 16 GB cards. Check out the PDF after the link for more info/options.

I used a similar rebate last year to order three 4 GB CF Extreme III cards for my Canon gear and the rebate was a nice and fat $60 (they give you a Visa Prepaid Card instead of the usual mail-in-rebate check)

If you don't need Extreme III speeds, they have Ultra II 16 GB cards for about $49 in beach camera with the rebate (you have to use a different rebate form) while their XIII 8GB cards are priced at $45

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=SDSDRH016

PerroneFord
09-04-2009, 03:21 PM
The Sony EX1 community vetteed these cards MONTHS ago. Dozens and dozens of tests with all manner of cards. I ended up with Sandisk Ultra2 cards and never looked back. They have been absolutely flawless for me in the EX1 (35Mb/s). They work up to about 47Mbps. Since we can overcrank on our cameras, we can tell where they actually give up the ghost.

We also use disk testing software on them to rate them.