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Xian Messerschmidt
07-30-2009, 10:03 PM
We're looking to purchase a shotgun to be boomed for use with the EX-1. The Schoeps CMIT5U was our original choice but I read that the EX-1 does not provide enough phantom power for this mic. Does anyone have any experience with that setup?
The other option we were considering was the Sennheiser MKH-416. I believe this one will work off EX-1 power.
We'd like to get something that's good for both indoor and outdoor shooting and are open to suggestions.
Kenny_G
07-31-2009, 08:11 AM
the Sennheiser MKH-416 is a very good mic. It needs a phantom of 48Vlt +/- 12volt.
DadinWestchester
07-31-2009, 09:58 AM
A good alternative to the MKH-416 is the Rode NTG-3 which is powered by the EX-1. Mine works fine.
Bobonli
07-31-2009, 01:39 PM
The AT 875 works fine also. I'd point out that there really is no such thing as one shotgun for indoors and out. The environment dictates mic choice. For indoors on a boom you want a hypercardioid mic. A traditional shotgun,indoors, works but won't produce the results a HyperCard will. You might want to read the threads in the audio forum so you can get the correct mic for the job.
Xian Messerschmidt
07-31-2009, 07:34 PM
We ordered a Rode NTG-3 with the blimp. We'll probably pick up a Schoeps CMIT5U down the road a piece.
thxdave
07-31-2009, 08:09 PM
I'd love to have the Schoeps, but I get great results with my Sennheiser MKH60 short shotgun.
FrankC
08-01-2009, 09:54 AM
In Barry Green's DVD on Audio Recording for Film & Video, he really likes the Oktava MK-012 for indoor boom work... and it's real affordable!
Kanjikid
08-11-2009, 12:16 AM
I use the Scheops with my EX1 and it works great. No power problems at all.
I just picked up a Rode NTG3. Not pocket change but it has a great rep and not knowing as much about audio as I thought its probalby a safe bet.
Carl Marxx
08-11-2009, 09:41 AM
I have a classic sennheiser M-66 long barrel shot gun mic, and there is enough room behind the mic to balance it on the camera clamp. About a foot long, but it works!
Chadfish
08-11-2009, 09:50 AM
I'd point out that there really is no such thing as one shotgun for indoors and out. The environment dictates mic choice. For indoors on a boom you want a hypercardioid mic. A traditional shotgun,indoors, works but won't produce the results a HyperCard will. You might want to read the threads in the audio forum so you can get the correct mic for the job.
I second this post. Shotguns are not designed for indoor use. The very slits on the side that reject sound become comb filters when faced with reflections off the walls. Anybody with a full audio kit has a nice hyper for indoor use. I have had great success with the Rode NT3 either on a boom or on the camera. It sounds better than a shotgun either indoors or out, but outside it is very susceptible to wind.
Chadfish
Z1Scottie
08-11-2009, 11:15 AM
i have been using an Azden SGM-1X, the longer one, with mine and it performs
superbly. I am probably going to be selling it shortly as I need another short shotgun
mic and really like the Rode.
MattDavis
08-18-2009, 03:59 AM
I need another short shotgun mic and really like the Rode.
Is nobody else going to put in a vote for the Sanken CS1? Sure it's not hyper enough for serious indoor use, but it's been a great 'get out of jail free' mic to have around an EX1. Diminutive size means it's more of a 'sawn off' shotgun...
Huy Vu
08-18-2009, 04:05 AM
The Schoeps CMIT5U was our original choice but I read that the EX-1 does not provide enough phantom power for this mic.
Huh? Where did you hear this?
Pretty much all modern mics out there, including the CMIT5U uses 48V phantom power and the EX1 will provide this.
Chadfish
08-18-2009, 11:15 AM
I'm a little bummed none of my mics fit the mic holder on the EX1. My ME66 and NTG-2 are too small, and my NT-3 is too big. I bought a Rode SM5 shock mount: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463089-REG/Rode_SM5_SM5_Shotgun_Microphone.html
It just barely fits the mic holder, though I think a tad too tight. It squishes the little rubber pads in the EX1 mic holder totally flat, and the smaller side just flops around. And if I have my ME66 on the SM5, with a dead cat, the fluff still gets in the shot at full wide. Not that I would do anything serious with a mic mounted on the camera, but I'd like to have something to pop on for run-n-gun without thinking too much. So I'm thinking of a nice little shotgun that doesn't stick out so much.
I'm thinking of two possibilities. Has anyone got any experience with either of these?
AT875: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/495302-REG/Audio_Technica_AT875R_AT875_Short_Condenser_Shotgu n.html#accessories
Oktava MK-012:http://www.oktava.com/inc/sdetail/475
You can see the little fuzzy popping in at the top right of some of the slow motion kid stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy-s_g2MRio&feature=related
I have had to make a nice round enlargement section for the mic mount on my ME66 & my NTG3 to get them to fit. At least I can do that, if the mount was too small I couldn't make the mic any thinner...
I also trimmed the fur of my dead cat at the end to keep it out of wide shots.
Chadfish
08-25-2009, 02:16 PM
I have had to make a nice round enlargement section for the mic mount on my ME66 & my NTG3 to get them to fit. At least I can do that, if the mount was too small I couldn't make the mic any thinner...
I also trimmed the fur of my dead cat at the end to keep it out of wide shots.
Hey Guy
What did you use to fit around your shotguns so they will fit in the EX1 mic holder?
Got a photo?
Z1Scottie
08-25-2009, 03:02 PM
go get some foam from the craft store, and wrap a small peice around the mic with some black electrical tape, or glue the foam inside the mic holder.
Iudex
08-25-2009, 08:35 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Don't put any nasty glues into ourrrr preciousssssssssss!!!!!!
...
Just put foam around the mic, close the mic holder tightly and that's it. I do it this way with my NTG-3 and it works, no tape needed. Just make sure you put enough foam and close the mic holder to keep the mic very tight.
Chadfish
08-25-2009, 09:09 PM
I have the Rode SM-5 (shown), but it fit's so tight that the built in rubber gets very smashed. It is a nicer way to cushion a mic though. I also have the SM-3 that fits into the hot shoe, but I want to keep that free for other things.
SM-5
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=1607