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DeeKay
07-09-2009, 11:46 AM
Hello.

I'm using the HVX's component cable to monitor on a 720p HDTV. The HDTV is hard to adjust to the HVX bars because:

1. It doesn't have blue mode.

2. I have a blue gel but not a Lee 363.

3. The shadows in the picture have little detail (they look sort of like 16-bit graphics) and they appear orange/red before adjusting the color away from factory presets.

What kind of quality loss is there when using component? Is there no way to run an HDMI from an HVX through an adapter?

Is it normal that the picture should glitch as the flimsy component cable on the HVX output side wriggles or bends?

Another problem is that the color temp settings are listed as low, med, high, etc. rather than in deg. kelvin! :Drogar-Mad(DBG):

Another problem is obviously that the picture is very noisy. Any suggestions to reduce this?

Please understand that I do not have another grand to drop on a pro monitor. I got the HDTV because I'm mostly concerned with framing/continuity. But the picture color and brightness are so off whenever I try to adjust that it is distracting from exposing properly and adjusting for color temp.

Surely it is possible to get an acceptable image out of an HDTV, even without complete accuracy.
Please help!:violin:
Thanks,

--DK

DeeKay
07-09-2009, 12:41 PM
Don't worry DK, I'll keep you company.

DeeKay
07-09-2009, 12:41 PM
Thanks Deekay, together we can climb to the top of the forum, all while increasing our number of posts!

DJDecay
07-09-2009, 02:06 PM
Best suggestion I have for you is to use a scope software like ScopeBoxPRO or HD Monitor PRO on a laptop via firewire, and be nice to the forum w/o excessive bumping. I say this with all kindness as you share my initials. The HDTV monitor will help you nail focus, the rest you should do with in-camera features like zebra. Unless I'm missing something specific, what is the target monitor?

-DK

DeeKay
07-09-2009, 03:47 PM
Hello DJDecay,

Sorry for the rude little joke, and thanks for your time.:engel017:


I was trying to use a cheap Sharp LC-10SB25U LCD HDTV, 720p 19".

I love the idea of firewire to laptop but my laptop won't accept it. Was wondering if I could do a firewire to USB adapter or something.

Also ScopeBoxPRO and HD Monitor PRO are mac only, but is there anything that will work for pc?

Thanks,

DK

grimrebes
07-10-2009, 04:17 AM
Maybe Adobe OnLocation?

DeeKay
07-10-2009, 11:55 AM
I think I'll look into Adobe Onlocation. Of course these programs being as expensive as a pro monitor itself makes them nearly pointless to buy, but there are ways around that.:Drogar-Angry(DBG):

Nonetheless I was still wondering if there were any good tricks to calibrating something without a blue mode but I'm assuming there really aren't except to look through a blue gel.

Thanks for the help guys.

wgzn
07-10-2009, 05:12 PM
Of course these programs being as expensive as a pro monitor itself makes them nearly pointless to buy

uh, no. not really. a monitor cant capture and store content. onlocation can and does a number of other things... youre not comparing apples to apples here...

DeeKay
07-10-2009, 06:31 PM
uh, no. not really. a monitor cant capture and store content. onlocation can and does a number of other things... youre not comparing apples to apples here...

You can capture and store content using a p2! That is no reason for a program like this to cost what it does. Usually people turn to programs like that because the resolution on a laptop is sufficient for monitoring and is well replacing the need for standalone professional monitors. Not because they want an orange one day instead of an apple.

Say, wgzn, don't you have better things to do than post smarmy sarcastic stuff like this on forums all day?

wgzn
07-10-2009, 10:27 PM
You can capture and store content using a p2! That is no reason for a program like this to cost what it does.ok, but thats not what you were talking about about above. you were talking about pro monitor prices vs. hdtv performance vs onlocation pricing. and you made a very uninformed, broad brushed and largely innacurate statement.


Say, wgzn, don't you have better things to do than post smarmy sarcastic stuff like this on forums all day? certainly, but given that people come to this forum for helpful information, you'll have to pardon me if i feel compelled to point out questionable logic.


Usually people turn to programs like that because the resolution on a laptop is sufficient for monitoring and is well replacing the need for standalone professional monitorssure the monitoring capability of certain laptops via onlocation (or similar apps) is gaining acceptance. but you cant go again painting another broad statement like that. i have yet to see the laptop+software combo that was as good or as simple as a proper reference monitor. not to say that it cant be done. it can. ive done it and it does work reasonably well. but there is absolutely no truth that its "well replacing the need for standalone professional monitors"

technically, you cant even buy onlocation. it comes as part of adobe premiere. and even at the $799 price. if you use it once (professionally) it pretty much pays for itself.

DeeKay
07-10-2009, 11:32 PM
i have yet to see the laptop+software combo that was as good or as simple as a proper reference monitor. not to say that it cant be done. it can. ive done it and it does work reasonably well

In my opinion, this looks like the process of replacement.

There is no reason to be sensitive to this.


technically, you cant even buy onlocation. it comes as part of adobe premiere. and even at the $799 price. if you use it once (professionally) it pretty much pays for itself.

I see what you mean that it comes with premiere, but I already have an editing program and I'm already paying off thousands worth of camera, sound, gaff, and hardware. I'm just a guy with a question, not a newbie to the cyber expert zone. Don't let my "join date" throw you off, that is not the date I started working in production.

wgzn
07-10-2009, 11:40 PM
ok, i give up.