Timelapse with Intervalometer on GH1

[SpecialEdFX]

Haven't found another topic about this. Pardon any redundancy.

So guys, only thing seems to be missing on this baby is an intervalometer. I've seen some questionable units from overseas on ebay for 45$. Doesn't seem like a huge loss to give it a try, but a big focus for me getting this baby is mounting to my motion control dolly and getting 4k sized timelapse video in the RAW.

Anybody try out any of these off brand things or know of a better solution?
:dankk2:

[ROCKMORE]

I don't have a GH1 yet but have done a lot of time lapse with a Norris on an Arri IIC. I want to hook it up the the GH1 when I get it. I think the GH1 has an electronic cable switch for remote trigger.
The Norris if just a rotating cam shaft controlled by a basic electronic timer. The shaft has a raised spot on the cam to trigger the camera for each frame. The Norris turns half way to open the shutter and a second turn to close it. That's for film. The GH1 only has to be triggered once per frame and that camera takes care of the frame timing and exposure. The Norris is $2,700 and cheap brands are not as good and will still cost you.
What might work just as well for a few bucks is a small geared down DC motor with a variable speed control. (maybe from cheap a toy RC car etc) Make a raised spot on the shaft so it triggers your GH1 cable each time it turns around. Connect it all together with gaffers tape and glue for starters.
It will probably work great, and cost you nothing to try. Good luck.

[upshot]

search ebay: g1 timer... They work just fine despite the build quality. It's not a complex device.

Be aware that the g1 and gh1 have a 4 pole plug connection for the trigger. It's looking for 2K resistance for trigger 4K resistance for focus. So basically if you open/close the circuit it doesn't work.

ROCKMORE...IMHO that's overkill to the max! Why not spend $50 and call it a day. Get two or three if your worried about unit failures.

[ROCKMORE]

That's great. thanks

[BrianMurphy]

I bought one from the folks at ebay on the recommendation of a fellow DVXUser. It works very well and was sixty bucks Cdn. delivered.
"One should never use an atomic bomb to kill a fly" in my opinion/

[PhilD]

I bought one from the folks at ebay on the recommendation of a fellow DVXUser. It works very well and was sixty bucks Cdn. delivered.
"One should never use an atomic bomb to kill a fly" in my opinion/

Is it the "JJC Timer"?

[BrianMurphy]

Is it the "JJC Timer"?

Yes it is Phil. If you want to try it out send me a pm. I am busy this week but could let you try it next weekend.

[Martti Ekstrand]

I don't have a GH1 yet but have done a lot of time lapse with a Norris on an Arri IIC. I want to hook it up the the GH1 when I get it.

MAN! I've so been wanting to test this: yank out the gate and film drive from the IIC, take off the lens from the GH1 and stick it where the gate was. Figure out some way to sync the mirror and BAM! A digital motion camera with a reflex optical viewfinder! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[dobro]

Today my JJC timer arrived but when I connected it to my GH1 it did nothing. Can you tell me waht I did wrong. I updated the firmware to 1.1 can that be the problem.
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250454927145&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123)

[Lauri Showler]

This is great news, I didn't know such a thing existed, I hate the speeded up video method of time lapse, it just seems wrong. I have done a fair bit of time lapse using my Ricoh GX 100, but it has minimum of one frame every 5 seconds, which is too jerky for most things, only really good for clouds.

So this device will let you take interval of 1 frame per second until the card fills or battery dies?

This forum is great for learning stuff.

[Quick-Motion]

Hi, i use a Timer from JJC Technology japan, i bought the timer in germany on www.enjoyyourcamera.com "JJC TM-Series"

I'am shooting right now sunset(clouds) timelapsed in Dortmund Germany.

Greetings

[DonalDuc]

I'm using a Delamax timer - it's cheaper (-20%) than JJC, but has same functions. Aaaaaand it has NO FIXED cable, you can use it with EVERY camera - Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic ... only change cable with connector.

Of course it works well with G1 and GH1

Same remote you get under the name "Phottix" ---> enjoyyourcamera (http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Fernausloeser/Timer-Ausloeser/Universal-Timer-Ausloeser-Phottix-Nikos::2060.html) - but € 30 more expensive :-(


verzögerte Auslösung: 1s - 99h 59min 59s
Langzeitbelichtung bis 99h 59min 59s
Intervall: 0s - 99h 59min 59s im Sekundentakt
Serienaufnahmen: 1-99


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[PhilD]

Any idea on where to get the Delamax or Phottix in Canada? I can only find german sites although it says it's made in HK

[Lauri Showler]

I notice the JJC has 399 exposure limit, does the Delamax have the same limit?

In my experience, at say 2 second interval, I think that makes only 13 minutes of exposures, played back at 30fps would be 13 seconds. I am used to leaving the camera for at least an hour, which would meen 1800 stills at 2 second interval.

I don't wnat to buy a timer with a 399 frame limit, crazy.

[upshot]

I don't wnat to buy a timer with a 399 frame limit, crazy.

you set it to -- and it will go indefinitely...

[DonalDuc]

Delamax timer (Phottix timer is the same!) has 99 (!) frames limit - but how upshot said,
if you set interval timer to 2 sec and frames to 0 then it makes all two seconds a picture till you end the process.

intervals: 0s - 99h 59min 59s !!!

If you set interval to 65 sec and frames to 10, then it makes 10 pictures, all 65 sec one.

If you set interval to 24h and frames to 7, it makes each day 1 picture - one week long :-))))



JJC timer 1-399 frames or endless (--) :


In den Modi Selbstauslöser, Langzeitbelichtung und Intervall können
Sie Zeiten zwischen 1s und 99h 59min 59s angeben, bei der Reihenaufnahme
eine Anzahl von 1-399 oder unendlich (--)



Delamax € 49 with one cable, for other cameras you only have to buy a suited cable/connector
Phottix € 79 without cable! You also have to buy a cable/connector.
JJC € 59 with fixed cable, you need for each camera the whole thing.
Functions for all three are ~ the same.

[SpecialEdFX]

Thanks for all the response to my initial post. Just worked with some serious timelapse/ motion control guys last week and they turned me on to Harbortronics. Really rugged, small custom stuff. Only downside for me is there's no visual interface/ readout, so I may stick with my NXT stuff, or try to integrate. I may still try one of these Ebay Bangkok deals...

[clan14]

Hi Guys very useful thread, do you know if any of the abovementioned intervalometer, or for example thr delamax, will work with the Ricoh gx200 given the camera connections?
thank you

[slinks]

couldn't find a delamax for the gh1 anywhere online. only for canon and such

[martynjbull]

they heve them on amazon.de.

i'm not sure which connector is needed though. from the above picture looks like the canon one will do. JJc is sold out as is Phottix in UK.

[saaby]

DonalDuc,

Which cable do you use on your timer for the GH1?

I have both a Pentax dSLR and now this GH1, so I'm very intrigued by the universal timer.

From what I can well, I need the "P6" end . I see other versions of the timer on eBay, btu not the "P6" version.

[pix2pixels]

Apparently the connector for Canod 4x0D series should work with Panasonic GH1 too.

[saaby]

I don't believe that's the case. The Canon 4x0D uses the same as my Pentax, and I found info on the interwebs specifically stating that the Pentax won't work with the Panasonic. The Pentax system is 2.5mm with 3 rings. Panasonic uses 2.5mm with 4 rings.

The seller on eBay said there are no P6 cables available.

I have emailed the manufacturer directly.

If I can order cables from China, would anybody be interested in one?

[MR Fanny]

I want to grab the phottix one from ebay which is identical to the delmax. they never reply to my messages so they suck on that part..ha

why not just go to your local electronic place and make one up(the cable that is)? I think that's the route I might take if i go ahead and buy the phottix unit.

[saaby]

I'm going to try and call their US people today, and then if I don't get a good answer just go for it.

I just called the number and it's busy...that's not a bad sign, but it's not exactly a confidence boost!

[saaby]

I am working on a project now and need some Timelapse stuff.

Time is of the essence, and I spent all day yesterday waiting around for people to respond to my questions (ebay sellers and such, not here).

So I just broke down and bought the timer. You can find it for $48 on eBay if you search for "Nikos"

I bought the Pentax version since I have a Pentax dSLR as well.

That's coming from Hong King

I found some instructions to make your own G1 remote shutter. They involved buying a Nokia headset, chopping the cable, and soldering on some resistors.

Well I decided to try a different approach. Instead of spending $5 for a Nokia cable on eBay, I spent $8 and bought a (Timerless) GH1 remote shutter. At worst I'll have the right connector -- but at best, I'll have the right connector, and the right resistors too! We'll see.

[MR Fanny]

keep us posted with how you go.

[saaby]

Official reply from Phottix:



Hi,

we have discontinued production of P6 cables due to their lack of compatibility with the Panasonic cameras.
The Nikos C6 can be purchased from our online shop at www.phottixstore.com


The C6 is for Pentax.

[saaby]

Hi! Remember this thread?

My remote shutter finally came today. Guess custom's has been running extra slow.

Ripped the thing apart...I was hoping inside I would find a tiny circuit board taking an on/off input and turn it into the resistorized input the Panasonic is looking for.

Instead I I just found what's essentially a big switch...so essentially I paid $8 (and waited 3 weeks) for the right connection and the right resistors :)

I'm going to try and cobble something together tomorrow to make it all work.

[MR Fanny]

pics please if you get it working

[saaby]

Ok I had other stuff to do, but I went ahead and tinkered with this tonight, probably because I've been waiting weeks to have the chance.

You plug in a 4-connector connection thing. 2 of the connections do nothing, and the other 2 run about 40...uhh...I don't know my units, sorry, I'll try and get more technical later, but 40 resistance. So then when you want to focus, you drop that 40 to 6, and then when you want shutter, you drop it to 2.

So the method I attempted to try (and I think it was crummy workmanship on those itty itty itty bitty wires holding me back) was to let the timer step in and provide a shortcut path over some of the resistors, depending on half-press or full press. Words to describe it are escaping me, so I'll just paste a picture in.

Homefully some time this upcoming week I'll get the real soldering iron out and go to town trying to make this work...


http://www.v4turbo.com/dvxusr/intervalometer.png

[majikfraug]

Resistance is measured in Ohms.

[saaby]

Yeah thanks, was at a loss for that the other night. Working through the Civil Engineering classes they make Mechanical Engineers take. Obviously haven't been through the Electrical Engineering classes yet ;)

School got busy and this stalled, but Finals are over this week, so I should be able to make this work.

[saaby]

Well bad news,

I don't know --- maybe my timer is defective, but now matter how I try it, I can't it it to short the connections the way it's supposed to. When the timer is in bulb mode, I should get a short across the connector. I even confirmed this with a wireless shutter release. On the Phottix, instead of a "short" I get about 6 ohms resistance, and there doesn't seem to be any way around this.

I've tinkered with this for hours -- and I need to do a timelapse with my GH1 next week, so I punted and just ordered a GH1 specific timer from eBay. Am I thrilled about that? No...but what do you do?

[Justyn]

I just picked up the JJC TM series time remote and it works great. ONly complaint so far is that it's easy to turn it on or off so other than that.. what a great purchase for 40 bucks. I too might end up buying a 2nd one just in case this craps out...

Finally back to the land of timelapses....