Adapters

[smkeenan]

Well I have been looking into adapters lately and I believe the safest and almost cheapest route with adapters appears to be going with the DMW-MA1 (http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gh1/optional_accessories.html#acc03) and then going on ebay and picking up the necessary adapter to the lens of your choice.

However, I was wondering if someone knew if by buying the panasonic adapter and an adapter like this (http://cgi.ebay.com/AF-Confirm-Nikon-to-Olympus-4-3-Adapter-e400-e410-e420_W0QQitemZ120424620503QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_ Accessories?hash=item1c09dde1d7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A15%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7 C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50) if I would be able to maintain AF functionality and be able to control the aperture?

thanks

[Ben_B]

I was planning on getting one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-lens-to-Panasonic-Lumix-G1-GH1-micro-4-3-adapter_W0QQitemZ250422526636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLe ns_Accessories?hash=item3a4e5882ac&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

and then some fast Nikon primes with a physical aperture ring. I'm a filmmaker so auto-focus isn't really necessary.

[asiammyself]

I've been looking into getting a gh-1 and have looked at adapters over ebay is there a difference in quality, would they affect the end photo/video in a bad way?

[smkeenan]

I was planning on getting one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-lens-to-Panasonic-Lumix-G1-GH1-micro-4-3-adapter_W0QQitemZ250422526636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLe ns_Accessories?hash=item3a4e5882ac&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

and then some fast Nikon primes with a physical aperture ring. I'm a filmmaker so auto-focus isn't really necessary.

well i was looking into that adapter... but i am doubtful as to the build quality. so by getting the panasonic one which is like $90 and then one of those ebay ones is like $10-40 for each adapter. making it cheaper to get more adapters than just nikon

and i am not worried about the auto focus functionality it is more that with the AF lenses you do not get a ring to adjust the aperture... thus i am wondering if the setup i posted would provide the ability to adjust the aperture via the camera

[smkeenan]

I've been looking into getting a gh-1 and have looked at adapters over ebay is there a difference in quality, would they affect the end photo/video in a bad way?

I say this lightly because in the extremes there will be an effect, however if your to buy the plastic adapters for sale on ebay you will not depreciate the quality of your footage. Assuming your not attaching poor lenses to the adapter. However, the thing that is important to watch out for is to not put too much stress (weight) on the camera body or the adapter as you can damage the lens, adapter and body. And since i imagine these adapters are not going to have the greatest build quality... use them with caution

[ydgmdlu]

1.) The adapters are only used to allow the physical mounting of lenses to the camera body. Therefore, they cannot affect image quality, unless some optics are involved (which shouldn't be the case for any adapter to Four Thirds or Micro Four Thirds). However, poorly made adapters might affect the focus calibration of the lenses. A lens must be mounted precise distance away from the image plane. Even if it's just a little bit off, the focus will be off.

2.) With cheap stuff, there's always the question of quality control and durability. That said, I would not hesitate to buy the cheap stuff. These are such simple devices that I can't imagine any price premiums to be very well justified.

3.) AF confirm chips only give the camera a fixed number for aperture. This is only data; you can still change the aperture to anything that you want, if your lens has as manual aperture ring. AF confirm chips don't do anything else.

[paulgandersman]

i'd probably get an official Canon to Micro 4/3 adapter if one existed. since not, cheap one on ebay!

[timbook2]

I got a Nikon adapter from China on ebay that was posted here and am super happy since it takes all old and new nikon lenses.

I also got a c-mount 25mm to 4/3 adapter and have a couple of cinema lenses that work fine after setting the GH1 to 2x digital zoom.

I might get a canon adapter later on but am already very happy with what I got.
The adapters are all working well, it all depends on the lenses!!!

I wish I could find some Nikon or Canon 12 or 14 mm lenses to get some wide-angle glass. Since the range doubles with 35mm glass, I got extreme tele stuff now but wide angle is my problem.

[Abstract Photog]

i just got my Canon FD adapter in today.
i dont have the GH1 yet (next week), but the build quality is very solid.
metal, nice and hefty, and my FD lenses lock in very firmly without any play.

Heres a listing for the same one. $75 off ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-FD-to-Panasonic-G1-GH1-adapter-NEW-VERSION_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1205Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c2 93Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZ item3a4f7f8047QQitemZ250441859143QQptZLensQ5fAcces soriesQQsalenotsupported

[nathankw]

i just got my Canon FD adapter in today.
i dont have the GH1 yet (next week), but the build quality is very solid.
metal, nice and hefty, and my FD lenses lock in very firmly without any play.

Heres a listing for the same one. $75 off ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-FD-to-Panasonic-G1-GH1-adapter-NEW-VERSION_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1205Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c2 93Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZ item3a4f7f8047QQitemZ250441859143QQptZLensQ5fAcces soriesQQsalenotsupported


I'd love to know how you get on with that one.

This guy has a couple of problems with it. (It's actually a different mount from the same seller).
http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2009/06/micro-43-adapter-review-om-mount.html

The biggest worry is the bit about red paint coming off. I'd had to ruin my sensor with a fleck of loose paint.

I wonder how it compares to the slightly more expensive jinfinance one.

[Abstract Photog]

I'd love to know how you get on with that one.

This guy has a couple of problems with it. (It's actually a different mount from the same seller).
http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2009/06/micro-43-adapter-review-om-mount.html

The biggest worry is the bit about red paint coming off. I'd had to ruin my sensor with a fleck of loose paint.

I wonder how it compares to the slightly more expensive jinfinance one.
interesting. ill let you know once iv gotten to use it.
the jinfinance one puts the red dot in the same place though...

also, the one i picked up from him is the "new" version. it has a flange on
the FD mount end to cover all lens mount gaps (that a camera body would
cover), and he now guarantees infinity focus. so we'll see...

what exactly is the point of that aperture button on jinfinance one?
they say it opens and closes the aperture, but thats what the ring is for.
why would one use the button over twisting the aperture ring?

edit: just got home and took another look at the adapter. the red dot that
was causing trouble in the previous model has been relocated. its out of the
way and wont smear or chip now :thumbup:

[Martti Ekstrand]

I have this adapter on my GH1 now, the new version. One single bit of solid metal that's very nicely machined and with good finish. My FD lenses sits neat and snug with it. One of them is a tad harder to twist on but as the adapter have a ribbed flange to hold it's not a problem. Ordered it on Monday, picked it up from the mail office today. Recommended.

http://shop.ebay.com.au/merchant/ciecio7_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZ

[Texanite]

by getting the panasonic one which is like $90

Where are you finding the DMW-MA1 for $90? I'm seeing $140-$170


however if your to buy the plastic adapters for sale on ebay

All the adapters I've bought are metal. No plastic adapters I've seen.


the jinfinance one puts the red dot in the same place though...

Not true. I have the FD adapter from Jinfinance and the dot is not in the same place as the Ciecio7 adapter pictured in that blog. If you look at the picture, the problem is with the dot being put on the wings/blades of the m4/3s end of the mount which is why it's wiping off inside his camera. Additionally, both the front and rear red dots on my jinfinance adapter are recessed.


what exactly is the point of that aperture button on jinfinance one?
they say it opens and closes the aperture, but thats what the ring is for.
why would one use the button over twisting the aperture ring?

Mine from jinfinance has a ring with a green dot but no button. Maybe it's a button on the new version? I haven't seen it. Link?

[Martti Ekstrand]

Thanks for the heads-up, the inner red dot on the FD should be placed on the outside instead. I'll keep an eye on it for wear.

[Abstract Photog]

Not true. I have the FD adapter from Jinfinance and the dot is not in the same place as the Ciecio7 adapter pictured in that blog. If you look at the picture, the problem is with the dot being put on the wings/blades of the m4/3s end of the mount which is why it's wiping off inside his camera. Additionally, both the front and rear red dots on my jinfinance adapter are recessed.

ohh ok, they seemed to be from the pictures.
but again, i have the new version and the dot is out of the way


Mine from jinfinance has a ring with a green dot but no button. Maybe it's a button on the new version? I haven't seen it. Link?
yea i think i was wrong about that one too.
i just went back to the listing, and it looks like they were just referring
to the aperture ring itself. the button was just the Auto release on the
lens, not the adapter.



I have this adapter on my GH1 now, the new version. One single bit of solid metal that's very nicely machined and with good finish. My FD lenses sits neat and snug with it. One of them is a tad harder to twist on but as the adapter have a ribbed flange to hold it's not a problem. Ordered it on Monday, picked it up from the mail office today. Recommended.

http://shop.ebay.com.au/merchant/ciecio7_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZ
thats the same one i have. how does infinity focus work?

[Abstract Photog]

update on my FD adapter. works perfect!
locks onto the camera exactly like the stock lens...smooth and clean.
infinity focus is perfect, and the all the red dots are recessed and out of the way.

[J Davis]

ciecio7 adapter for FD is good, we were justtalking about them on another thread, I posted this


I ordered and received a ciecio7 adapter. Using it with a bunch of FD's no problem with aperture ring.

I also tested the placement of this mount. I did this by taking a pic using the kit zoomed to 50mm then mounting ciecio7+Canon FD f1.4 50mm and took same pic. Framing was identical which means the ciecio7 mount is positioning the FD lens at the correct distance from the sensor. ciecio7 is all metal too. Works well.

[PhilD]

i'd probably get an official Canon to Micro 4/3 adapter if one existed. since not, cheap one on ebay!

Novoflex is as official as you will ever get, it was even recommended by Panasonic reps but I didn't find any place that sells it so I bought the ciecio7 one on eBay

[smkeenan]

Where are you finding the DMW-MA1 for $90? I'm seeing $140-$170

Link?

Well for employees you get a discount at Panasonic direct and it was listed as $90, but for some reason they said its not available for online purchase and so i called them and they were clueless as to why it was even posted in their store and would not place an order for me... so oh well

I instead just bought some adapters from ebay, i think it was JR electronics and they are holding up pretty well

[editman]

I still have not got my GH1. Currently on waiting list and will get it later this summer. But I do have all other goodies :)

Yesterday I got a Nikon E-2 which allows aperture control even on G-lenses or as in my case the Sigmas. And the m4/3->Nikon adapter arrived a month ago. It will be interesting to try the whole rig with adapters and follow focus.

I think the Novoflex (http://www.novoflex.com/de/produkte/objektiv-adapter/fuer-microfourthirds/) has aperture control and is a complete solution instead of my separate adapters.

http://www.collectiblecameras.com/catalog/images/E2Ring.jpg

Nikon E-2

[yia]

please guys tell me what is the benefit of having this adaptor beside changing to different lenses...I wanna get one too but not sure of the benefit of it

[Abstract Photog]

I still have not got my GH1. Currently on waiting list and will get it later this summer. But I do have all other goodies :)

Yesterday I got a Nikon E-2 which allows aperture control even on G-lenses or as in my case the Sigmas. And the m4/3->Nikon adapter arrived a month ago. It will be interesting to try the whole rig with adapters and follow focus.

I think the Novoflex (http://www.novoflex.com/de/produkte/objektiv-adapter/fuer-microfourthirds/) has aperture control and is a complete solution instead of my separate adapters.

http://www.collectiblecameras.com/catalog/images/E2Ring.jpg

Nikon E-2
thats sweet. i can see the plunger on the far side!


please guys tell me what is the benefit of having this adaptor beside changing to different lenses...I wanna get one too but not sure of the benefit of it
im not sure what your asking...
which adapter are you refering to? and the whole point of having
these adapters is being able to use alternate lenses. when you
say "besides changing to different lenses" you mean?...

[senomar]

There seems to be a lot of "i think" the novoflex adapter has aperture control... can anyone confirm this for sure? i have some Nikon DX lenses i would love to use...

Also, has anyone in the states ordered the adapter? If so, from where?

As for the ciecio7... does anyone have a link? I can't seem to find much on it...

thanks
cody

[yslee]

At least of the guys here have it, and have said it does have aperture control. Kinda makes me want to order one, but the price is a bit steep, and other than my 11-16 I have no desire to use the few G-type lenses in my collection on the GH1.

[snicky]

As for the ciecio7... does anyone have a link? I can't seem to find much on it...


He gave me a discount so I feel obligated to advertise him a bit here :) :

http://shop.ebay.com/ciecio7/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1

[nickybee]

GH1 is in the house as of this morning (special order finally arrived) - so even though I ordered from Ciecio7 2 months ago I am only now assembling my lenses.

I got three FD primes - and I got the Ciecio7 adapter ages ago from ebay.

As per an earlier posting my red dot (on the camera side) looked in danger of scraping off so I scraped it off myself (I left that little bit that's indented ;))...

That side is not the problem though - the problem is the camera side. It's way too tight.

On one of my lenses (the 50mm) I can just about get it on with a significant amount of torque (it feels unpleasant like I'm gonna break the lens apart)...
At this point the aperture ring turns...

On the other two lenses (28mm and 135mm) I cannot get the adapter on at all - the locking ring starts to turn - then stops. It hasn't completely turned - I know this because turning the aperture ring on the lens does nothing...

Anyone got any ideas - I just wrote to Ciecio7 on ebay - so let's see if he replies...

Nick

[J Davis]

GH1 is in the house as of this morning (special order finally arrived) - so even though I ordered from Ciecio7 2 months ago I am only now assembling my lenses.

I got three FD primes - and I got the Ciecio7 adapter ages ago from ebay.

As per an earlier posting my red dot (on the camera side) looked in danger of scraping off so I scraped it off myself (I left that little bit that's indented ;))...

That side is not the problem though - the problem is the camera side. It's way too tight.

On one of my lenses (the 50mm) I can just about get it on with a significant amount of torque (it feels unpleasant like I'm gonna break the lens apart)...
At this point the aperture ring turns...

On the other two lenses (28mm and 135mm) I cannot get the adapter on at all - the locking ring starts to turn - then stops. It hasn't completely turned - I know this because turning the aperture ring on the lens does nothing...

Anyone got any ideas - I just wrote to Ciecio7 on ebay - so let's see if he replies...

Nick

Hi Nick, glad you got your camera.

I have the ceico7 FD adapter as well and have successfully used it with 7 maybe 8 different lenses ranging in brands from Canon, Tokina, Vivitar and Cosina, zooms and primes. It can be tricky and each lens mounted slightly differently as I have learned there are many different types of locks within the 'FD' realm. Whatever you do, don't force anything.

I found it is good to make sure the aperture ring is not on A as this may affect the lock. If you are holding the cam in your left hand and the lens in your right then start turning the top of the lens toward you until it clicks in place, then turn the top of the lens away so the two are connected, then turn the locking ring to hold it. On the first turn you may have to repeat this with the locking ring at different positions. Some of the old lenses I tried were really tricky an it took me a while to get a feel for how they mount, others were easy and I got them right away.

[billh]

Are there any adapters for the GH1 for Canon EOS and Nikon G lenses that will enable aperture changes to be made?

Thanks!

[Rabot]

Hi, my CANON FD to M4/3 adapter from RJ has aperture control, if that's what anyone asked.

BUT! there's no mark or anything, it just more the aperture up or down, without stops.

[nickybee]

ceico7 is sending me another adapter free of charge (to see if that makes a difference) - of course I will have to return whichever one I don't keep.

good guy though.

all these adapters add aperture control - you just have to be careful as to how you put them on.

clearly the little bold that sticks out inside the adapter has to push the aperture release spring as you tighten it on - but unless you are careful you will miss it - that's what this turn one way/turn the other way stuff is all about...

just look at the lens as you are attaching it and make sure the pin is "behind" the aperture release pin and depressing it as you lock the lens on...

note that to do this - the FD adapter must be OFF the camera - i.e. I would do this before you put the lens onto the camera

Nick

[Mike Manning]

Gotta plug Hot Rod Cameras (http://www.hotrodcameras.com/) with Illya's PL mount for the GH1. It let's you put some serious pieces of glass on your GH1... or I should say, let's you put the GH1 onto the lens! (the thing's f**king tiny!)

Anyway, the other day, Kevin Zanit (DP) and I checked out this demo at Birns and Sawyer in Hollywood where they showed a short that used footage shot on the Red One, the 5D, and the GH1 (with the PL mount). And though it was a Canon event, everyone was talking about the Panasonic. The GH1 blew the other cameras out of the water no question about it. While Kevin isn't a fan of the Red, he was still shocked to discover how much BETTER he thought the GH1 looked. Canon's 5D just looks like garbage.... why 30p?

Check it out... Hot Rod Cameras (http://www.hotrodcameras.com/)

[commanderspike]

Just going back to the first post in this topic a min... does the Nikon AF confirm to 4/3rds adapter from Hong Kong on eBay give you the green dot on the GH1's LCD when the image is focussed? I know AF isn't possible, but the AF confirm means that if you manually focus the lens, the chip in the adapter lets the camera know what the focus situation is right? So the camera can help you spot good focus with it's green dot and beep? Even via the Four Thirds to Micro 4/3rds adapter?

[yslee]

There's a chip in the adapter?

[simonclivehughes]

Spike,

Which adapter is this???

Cheers,

[Handstand]

I have a question. I have 2 lens each from Pentax, Canon FD, and Nikon. So instead of buying from ciecio7 or jinfinanace for 3 straight m3/4 to whatever i was thinking i buy a m3/4 to 3/4, and then 3 adapters from there. Will i have a problem with infinite focus? Any good recs/reviews of anybody doing this?

[editman]

This item (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370226175105&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

[yslee]

Whoa, nifty! That means a proper 4/3 to m4/3 adapter is needed. Mmm, interesting!

[Mike@AF]

This item (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370226175105&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

And that works with the GH1? And if I have a manual Nikon or Zeiss ZF lens will in confirm focus when focusing manually?

[haojan]

What about this af confirm adapter (http://cgi.ebay.com/AF-confirm-Nikon-adapter-for-Olympus-E510-E-3-E-410-4-3_W0QQitemZ350143195358QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Acc essories?hash=item51862928de&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) from ebay?
Is this any different?

[yslee]

Seems to be the same. I'm not sure if both the Olympus and Panasonic 4/3 to m4/3 adapters will accept the signal from these adapters properly. I might just buy a set to find out...

Next up: Combining the AF chip together with the aperture plunger!

[SteveF]

Hello,

I'm trying to find an adapter to use the GH1 with Nikon G lenses (without aperture ring) but still be able to manually adjust the aperture.

Are these out there? Reading the thread I'm not sure.

thanks,

[Martti Ekstrand]

Doubtful as it sounds like that requires the adapter to emulate the electronics of a Nikon body to control the aperture.

Red Rock Micro has done this for Canon EF lenses to use on their Encore 35mm adapter for video cameras but haven't seen of anything like this for m4/3 adapters.
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.859/.f?sc=2&category=3093

[ivanouchkine]

Aie aie !

Can somebody help me ?

I just bought an adapter on Ebay for my GH1 and Leica R lenses. Good stuff but... When I screw it on my GH1, a message appears saying:

" The lense is not well attached to the camera"

I've tried many time but I am pretty sure that I can hear the CLICK saying the device is properly linked.

Does anyone know if Panasonic firmware is now protecting its adapter (like the batteries...) ?

Please !!!!!!

[Martti Ekstrand]

You have set the GH1 to "shoot without a lens" - last line on page 5 in "Custom Menu", described at page 130 in the manual.

[ivanouchkine]

Thank you ! It works !

I should have read the manual first, sorry !