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Isaac_Brody
06-03-2009, 03:15 PM
I had this idea on how to get the ball rolling. Unfortunately I don't have any direct email contact info, but I'm going to try the Panasonic USA contact us link. Here's my idea. If everyone sends the same note with a link to a petition I've made we can totally swamp the Panasonic USA contact email address with the same note to try and get some attention.

Here's the Panasonic USA contact link.



http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/support/Contact-Us.2


And here's the note I sent that links to a petition explaining the firmware requests in greater detail:

You have to copy and paste the petition link because DVXuser truncates it.


To: Ichiro Kitao, GM, Panasonic's DSC Product Planning
Request for Lumix GH1 Firmware Updates.

1. Video out while recording
2. MJPEG 1080 and 720 24P native recording mode
3. AVCHD 1080 24P native mode
4. Improved 1080P AVCHD implementation

The GH1 is certainly impressive. However, because of the limitations, I cannot buy and use it in my business. A few corrections are in order. I am linking to an online petition explaining the firmware requests and their importance.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LumixGH1FirmwareRequest/index.html

Sincerely,The contact space only allows for 600 characters, so I had to trim down the actual note and link to the petition that requests the firmware update in detail. You are free to send your own note that makes a request, but I just think if we all send the same note it's more effective and sends a stronger message.

No promises that this will make a difference but let's give it a shot and send these messages everyday. My plan is to send them a note everyday for a month. If we all did this once a day it would at the very least annoy someone enough to pass along the information. :)



On the link above fill out your info along with this section to target the GH1 people.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7382/picture2rzt.png

Let's get the ball rolling. :beer:

____________________________________


CLICK LINK => http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/support/Contact-Us.2

COPY AND PASTE INTO ABOVE LINK


To: Ichiro Kitao, GM, Panasonic's DSC Product Planning
Request for Lumix GH1 Firmware Updates.

1. Video out while recording
2. MJPEG 1080 and 720 24P native recording mode
3. AVCHD 1080 24P native mode
4. Improved 1080P AVCHD implementation

The GH1 is certainly impressive. However, because of the limitations, I cannot buy and use it in my business. A few corrections are in order. I am linking to an online petition explaining the firmware requests and their importance.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LumixGH1FirmwareRequest/index.html
Sincerely,

Your Name And don't forget to right click and copy the petition link ==> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LumixGH1FirmwareRequest/index.html into your message because DVXuser truncates links.

Kholi
06-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Get on the ball. I'm doing it as well.

shoqman
06-03-2009, 03:22 PM
Signed!

Kholi
06-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Not the petition, but send htis message via the link Isaac provided.

Rally up!

Ian-T
06-03-2009, 03:27 PM
Signed, Sealed and Delivered. Oh Yeah!!

Nighthawk
06-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Had to do it on the Canadian site but...done.

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
06-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Thanks, Isaac!

I sent a slightly different message via Panasonic's online form (note items #1 & #2):

=====================
To: Ichiro Kitao, GM, Panasonic DSC Product Planning

Request for Lumix GH1 Firmware Update:
1. Video & audio outputs to enable external monitoring when recording.
2. Allow user to disable audio AGC when recording.
3. MJPEG 1080 & 720 24P native recording capability.
4. AVCHD 1080 24P native recording mode.
5. Improve 1080P AVCHD implementation for high detail scenes.

Here is a link to an online petition explaining these firmware requests & why they are important:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LumixGH1FirmwareRequest/index.html

==============

Kholi
06-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Thanks for participating, guys!

If you know any other sites that are interested in the GH-1, please post the link to the DVXuser thread and have them send a letter to Panasonic.

Issac Brody did all the hard work, all you have to do is Cut and Paste then send!!!

Abstract Photog
06-03-2009, 03:44 PM
Done.

although, every time iv tried asking a question through Panny's email support system,
I get the same automated reply telling me I need to call in with my question. does this
happen to anyone else?

Kholi
06-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Yeah, but that's okay. The difference now is that they're all gettting the same email from individuals around the world. Different IPs, etc.

Instead of one Petition, Brody's idea is pretty genius because it's like a virtual office rally. =D

John Caballero
06-03-2009, 03:51 PM
Done as well.

Isaac_Brody
06-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Great! Let's keep it rolling. Someone is bound to notice when hundreds of the same message come in.

squig
06-03-2009, 03:56 PM
done. I think everybody knows hows how I feel about the GH1. It required a US address the only postcode I could think of was 90210 :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

smkeenan
06-03-2009, 04:07 PM
sent.

EWS
06-03-2009, 04:27 PM
Indeed we need this camera to be all it can be. I haven't posted much regarding this, but I believe I have read every post on this forum regarding the GH1, looked at every bit of footage from it that I can find, and from the number of hits I have seen on this forum, I know there are many others who have been silently watching.
I had previously signed the firmware petition, and have also sent the message and link to Panasonic.
If you have been lurking as I have I urge you to participate. It won't cost you anything but a couple of minutes of your time. The numbers that have viewed these posts can make a difference.
Great call Isaac, and special thanks to you, Kholi and the many others who have given their time and efforts to make this happen.
I will be very excited to shoot with this camera, and much more excited if the firmware issues are addressed.
Thanks

weaselander
06-03-2009, 05:20 PM
first post... love the forum.

Dalton Boettcher
06-03-2009, 08:36 PM
Done. I am very interested in the camera and I'm pretty sure a firmware update addressing those issues would trip my trigger.

Boz
06-03-2009, 09:58 PM
Done.

I hear physical written letters tend to have more impact. I'm willing to mail in a version of this request as well if someone can provide a physical address. What do you think?

EDIT: It's only one tab over from the link Isaac provided - how did I miss that? I'm going to mail a physical letter to them tomorrow. I suggest all those that can, do likewise. It certainly won't hurt.

commanderspike
06-03-2009, 10:50 PM
I know a guy who works in Panasonic's marketing department if it helps. I'll mention this issue to him and maybe it'll trickle on slowly up the ladder.

SonicStates
06-03-2009, 11:42 PM
Done and done...despite the geographical hiccup

dcloud
06-03-2009, 11:49 PM
btw fix the link to petition text to copy and paste

BTW try to get ahold of this guy who interviewed kitao
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09031901panasonicinterview.asp

squig
06-04-2009, 12:12 AM
Done and done...despite the geographical hiccup

Just use Barry's address :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

SonicStates
06-04-2009, 12:47 AM
Just use Barry's address :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

I'm sure he's been blocked given the amount of campaigning he does!!! :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

AdrianF
06-04-2009, 06:40 AM
Done and hopefully dusted

Isaac_Brody
06-04-2009, 11:45 AM
Just resent my message, Day 2 in my thirty day quest to get some traction. Keep it rolling.

Make sure to copy and paste the petition link into the message, DVXuser truncates links and they don't care over when copy and pasting.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LumixGH1FirmwareRequest/signatures.html

squig
06-04-2009, 04:02 PM
lol are you going to resend it every day? are you a quaker? 'speak truth to power!'

best to use Barry's address in case the panasonic men in black come for you.

this cam needs 1080p 24p 42Mbps H.264 or 70Mbps+ mjpeg to make it killer.

here's some more panasonic suits you can harass erm lobby-
http://www.linkedin.com/companies/panasonic
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=266732&modelNo=Content07012008093722708&surfModel=Content07012008093722708

stephenvv
06-04-2009, 05:16 PM
done

Isaac_Brody
06-04-2009, 06:14 PM
I am going to send this everyday. Takes thirty seconds to do and you should too. This camera is 95 percent there, and they almost dominated the market. They left a 5 percent door open that Nikon, Canon, or Pentax is going to squeeze through and steal their thunder. MJPEG and video out would seal the deal.

John Caballero
06-04-2009, 06:18 PM
1080PN and full HDMI out would be fab. Get a Nano Flash and rock n' Roll. Keep the pressure up everybody.

squig
06-04-2009, 06:23 PM
I hope the pro division run with it, I so want to use this thing un-crippled. I am a quaker so I'll send daily. Do you have Barry's address?

Isaac_Brody
06-05-2009, 08:20 AM
Day 3 sent. Come on people, only takes thirty seconds. :)

josephj
06-05-2009, 08:32 AM
done! thanks isaac.

Ian-T
06-05-2009, 08:57 AM
Done again.

shoqman
06-05-2009, 11:28 AM
Every time I sign, with comments, it just posts the signature and no comments.

Super irritating.

Solomon Chase
06-05-2009, 11:54 AM
Signed petition and sent message.

smkeenan
06-05-2009, 01:37 PM
done done done...

killacam
06-05-2009, 10:31 PM
lol are you going to resend it every day? are you a quaker? 'speak truth to power!'

best to use Barry's address in case the panasonic men in black come for you.

this cam needs 1080p 24p 42Mbps H.264 or 70Mbps+ mjpeg to make it killer.

here's some more panasonic suits you can harass erm lobby-
http://www.linkedin.com/companies/panasonic
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=266732&modelNo=Content07012008093722708&surfModel=Content07012008093722708

this is david briganti's email address, national marketing manager of imaging:
brigantid@us.panasonic.com


“Photographers of all levels – professionals, amateurs and beginners – will be stunned by the range of creative possibilities that the LUMIX GH1 creates in the world of high-quality photography and HD video. Users will be equally amazed by the camera’s easy-to-use design and small size,” said David Briganti, National Marketing Manager, Imaging, Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company.
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=332733&modelNo=Content03032009032503558&surfModel=Content03032009032503558

I am just guessing at a snailmail address but:
David Briganti
Panasonic Consumer Electronics
One Panasonic Way Panazip 1E-6
Secaucus, NJ 07094

Jean Dantes
06-06-2009, 04:08 AM
Signed!

God I hope they take notice of this petition! Thanks Isaac for starting this!!

Isaac_Brody
06-06-2009, 07:07 AM
Day 4 sent. Will try emailing that contact later today. 4 days later and still no response to my first email that I sent.

SonicStates
06-06-2009, 07:19 AM
Thanks Isaac for starting this!!

True dat!

There ARE some interesting theories on the ISO sweet spot developing in the DVXUser cauldrons...but just a few bones thrown our way from Panasonic could be a reason to crack the champagne

Isaac_Brody
06-06-2009, 08:49 AM
Email sent, keep signing the petition and sending those messages. The more people who sign the bigger the statement it makes.

jasonthewho
06-06-2009, 11:01 AM
Signed, and email sent!

Isaac_Brody
06-07-2009, 11:19 AM
Day 5 sent.

Boz
06-07-2009, 06:18 PM
Sent another email today, but the '2 to 3 day' reply from Panasonic has yet to come. I was half expecting a 'form letter' type response but so far I've received nothing. Anyone gotten ANY response from Panasonic yet?

Abstract Photog
06-07-2009, 11:05 PM
Sent another email today, but the '2 to 3 day' reply from Panasonic has yet to come. I was half expecting a 'form letter' type response but so far I've received nothing. Anyone gotten ANY response from Panasonic yet?
havnt gotten anything back yet. sending another now

SonicStates
06-08-2009, 03:24 AM
Sent...again. Not expecting a response considering my location but the more people that we can get signing, the better....Let the community speak with one voice...HDMI out...720p...1080p that holds up better...
Worse comes to worse, I wonder how much someone with a bit of know how would charge to hack the GH1 so we can record right off the sensor....

timbook2
06-08-2009, 06:52 AM
signed and added another point:

Settings for " custom" need to be storable!

Whenever I use a lens with an adapter I have to set the " allow non AF lens" again and again!!!:(

other than that I am testing adapters and lenses here and quite impressed...lets hope for a FW update!!

Isaac_Brody
06-08-2009, 07:10 AM
Day 6 sent.

Jean Dantes
06-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Hey Isaac, I was just wondering, what do you guys mean when you say "native mode"?

Also, perhaps it is too late now, but any chance of having 720P AVCHD @ 24P/25P added to the request?

Isaac_Brody
06-08-2009, 11:01 AM
Native mode means 24P without pulldown. So if the camera actually shot at 24 frames you wouldn't have to do pulldown in post. People have had trouble removing pulldown and when it's improperly removed it creates nasty artifacts in your footage.

I'm not sure they'd give uas PAL/NTSC capability since it conflicts with some EU restrictions with the PAL model and recording time limitations. I think if they could have they would have done it.

I'm just gonna stick to the original plan for now. If they budge and add some more features a second round can open up the dialogue further.

Nighthawk
06-08-2009, 12:38 PM
I've only received a 'form letter' like response from Panasonic Canada but it's at least in their system.

Jean Dantes
06-08-2009, 01:07 PM
I'm not sure they'd give uas PAL/NTSC capability since it conflicts with some EU restrictions with the PAL model and recording time limitations. I think if they could have they would have done it.

I'm not after NTSC capability (I live in PAL land, Australia). The one feature I would like to have is 720P AVCHD @ 25P for the PAL GH1 (not just 50P). I read that the GH1's 720P is virtually "jello-less" and, though I don't see the "mud" problem as an issue anymore and definitely something I can live with, I was under the impression that there is way less chance of "mud" in 720P AVCHD then there is in 1080P AVCHD. I think 720P AVCHD @ 25P (24P for NTSC land) would be greatly welcomed if the above two facts regarding performance are indeed true...

Gordon Webster
06-08-2009, 02:06 PM
Relatively new member, first post.
This has been a fantastic discussion.
Let's hope they listen.

akaloith
06-08-2009, 05:11 PM
for every resolution available they should offer 24/25, 30 and 50 / 60 fps
for every resolutions available they should offer 9, 13, 17, 21 and 24 mbit/sec
for every resolution avalable they should offer mjpeg and avchd

slinks
06-08-2009, 08:21 PM
signed sent delivered

Barry_Green
06-08-2009, 08:25 PM
for every resolution available they should offer 24/25, 30 and 50 / 60 fps
for every resolutions available they should offer 9, 13, 17, 21 and 24 mbit/sec
for every resolution avalable they should offer mjpeg and avchd
You know they don't meet this list with the $3,200 HMC40, and they don't meet it with the $4,000 HMC150, so I would seriously not expect them to meet it with the $1500 GH1. Just sayin', keep it in perspective.

Jean Dantes
06-08-2009, 11:06 PM
for every resolution available they should offer 24/25, 30 and 50 / 60 fps
for every resolutions available they should offer 9, 13, 17, 21 and 24 mbit/sec
for every resolution avalable they should offer mjpeg and avchd

I totally agree mate!

They should at least offer 24/25/30 @ 720 AVCHD! I'd be happy with that, even if it's 17mbps!


You know they don't meet this list with the $3,200 HMC40, and they don't meet it with the $4,000 HMC150, so I would seriously not expect them to meet it with the $1500 GH1. Just sayin', keep it in perspective.

We're paying $3300 in Australia. For that price, I want 25P @ 720P AVCHD. It's really strange why they didn't offering such a simple thing like that.

squig
06-09-2009, 01:27 AM
hey Jean Camera house in Melb are doing the MKII for $3750. I know which one I'm buying.

Jean Dantes
06-09-2009, 05:26 AM
hey Jean Camera house in Melb are doing the MKII for $3750. I know which one I'm buying.

Oh man, that sux lol.

$3300 was pushing it already :(

And I still gotta get 28mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.4 Canon FD primes, plus the adapter.

Maybe I should just give it up for now and come back to the DSLR scene in a few months...

People constantly tell us that we're lucky to live in Australia, and in regards to lifestyle, I agree with them, but in regards to technology and pricing, I don't lol :P

Isaac_Brody
06-09-2009, 08:43 AM
Day 7 sent and still no response back.

Jean Dantes
06-09-2009, 09:36 AM
Day 7 sent and still no response back.

Keep it up Isaac! :thumbup: Sooner or later, they'll hear you banging at the door!! :)

dcloud
06-09-2009, 10:08 AM
May i also suggest sending an email to the professional division for a GH1Pro version. hey, who knows.

Isaac_Brody
06-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Feel free to send that email. I am staying on target. :)

William_Robinette
06-09-2009, 10:45 AM
Sent. Great job Isaac!

Osslund
06-10-2009, 12:56 AM
Sent!

Isaac_Brody
06-10-2009, 08:53 AM
Day 8 sent, and you know the rest... :)

Dalton Boettcher
06-10-2009, 02:01 PM
Sent my second message; wrote my own instead of copy/paste this time. Mainly asked for an improved 24p mode, either AVCHD or MJPEG. Promised them at least one more sale if they could improve on it.

Thanks for the persistence, Isaac and others. I'll try to do better myself!

EDIT: still haven't heard back from Panasonic on my first message. Has anyone?

Nitsuj
06-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Those would be some great improvements - sent

Boz
06-10-2009, 05:38 PM
I just sent another request (my 3rd now) to Panasonic. This time I linked to various web reviews and this forum about the "mud" problem. My goal is to get them to realize that people are talking about it everywhere. This is exactly what prompted Canon to enable manual controls on the 5Dii. The more we raise awareness about the problem, the better the odds that Panasonic will do something to fix it.

I've yet to receive any response from Panasonic regarding my emails.

postvfx
06-11-2009, 12:57 AM
Sent as well!
What a great forum.

...I was sadly thinking about it, but thought is not an issue, apparently it is - plain firmware upgrade most likely will not get - HDMI output working the most wanted feature, read here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=170901

"He told me that he wanted live output too... for staff training sessions about the new camera. :-) Engineers told him they couldn't do that cuz the CPU in the camera wasn't fast enough."

i'm still hoping there is somewhere talented guy that will make hack/modification/whatever it takes.
best

Isaac_Brody
06-11-2009, 07:36 AM
Day 9, not even an automated response. Perhaps no response is better than a flat out rejection of these requests.

Boz
06-11-2009, 11:45 AM
That's one way of looking at it. I think it would be better to get a response, even a rejection, cause that way I can just forget about it and move on. You'd think after over a week they'd be able to come up with at least a generic response to this, but apparently not.

Imaginate
06-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Of course, this quotation is not meant to be taken literally, it’s origins are not actually verifiable and it’s not universally applicable.

The quotation in fact encourages experimentation by trying different things. Don’t change your goal completely, but understand that eventually you need to smarten up if things you are doing aren’t producing the results you desire.

Similarly, it’s well known that persistence is the most common trait that characterizes success.

Sometimes doing the same thing a second time when it hasn’t worked the first is indeed just foolish. But sometimes it’s shrewd. Wisdom consists, in part, in knowing the difference. Flexibility is a virtue. But in most matters, flexibility properly kicks in only after persistence has been given a fair chance.

So there we go. Persistence and experimentation working one after another. One without the other really isn’t worth much independent of the other.

Maybe try an alternate route.. like through a big client of Panasonic... someone who sells tons of their gear... they will have the ear of those in charge.

Isaac_Brody
06-11-2009, 12:55 PM
It's very easy for me to take twenty seconds out of my day to send an email then it is for them to ignore the same message coming from different people. 228 signatures on the petition, $342,000 of profit that they're losing.

30 days x 20 seconds out of each day of mine is 10 minutes of my time. 10 minutes vs $342,000. I think I've won there. :)

Feel free to try an alternate route, I'm not emotionally invested enough in this to make a big stink. They know the petition exists, I've emailed those involved and any email addresses that have come my way. I just made them aware that they have a window of opportunity to really tap into this market. If they don't grab that soon I have no doubt Canon will run with the ball with either a 24P update for the 5D or perhaps a 60D. Or Nikon, or Pentax, or Olympus, or Red. In six months I think one of these companies will get it right.

Only 21 more days of messages. :)

Boz
06-11-2009, 01:36 PM
Yup, this is why I wait. Panasonic can either win or fail. If they don't get it right, someone else will. I am brand agnostic. Give me the features I need at a price I can afford and I'm there. The money is set aside and just waiting. Not getting ANY response from Panasonic isn't encouraging though.

commanderspike
06-11-2009, 10:38 PM
I reckon Panasonic will wait until more people actually have the camera in their hands before making a judgement on whether the problem is perceived as being big enough by their customers to warrant a fix.

That's if they CAN fix it.

I spoke to a friend who works in Panasonic's marketing department about the bug and he kinda switched off to it. It's not his job to think negative about their products and it's the wrong department to report bugs to - there is nothing he can do, let alone understand in enough detail to make a fuss about it.

All in all, a disappointing silence from Panasonic, toward the people who are most passionate about their new flagship digital camera.

They may make cutting edge products but me thinks they have a few short comings in communicating to their customer base.

Isaac_Brody
06-12-2009, 03:28 AM
Day 10.

J Davis
06-12-2009, 03:55 AM
IMO it's all about a slow release of features to maximize profits. Look at the 5DM2 ... manual was there all along.

Isaac_Brody
06-12-2009, 08:42 AM
Finally, a response...



Dear MR BRODY

Thank you for your inquriry!

We value you as a loyal Panasonic customer.

We will get your information forwarded to the engineering department for
future consideration.

Thank you for your interest in Panasonic products.

Thank You,
Panasonic Consumer Support

Boz
06-12-2009, 11:28 AM
Whoa, a response! Amazing! That was exactly the kind of response I expected, but like about a week sooner. Oh well, better than nothing. I've yet to get a response back. Maybe they're behind in their responses due to the 'flood' we sent their way. ;)

postvfx
06-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Response, fu$&$^@ awesome.

Imaginate
06-12-2009, 09:23 PM
the rewards of persistence! It would be good to know if others got the same response.

Isaac_Brody
06-15-2009, 08:24 PM
Message sent. I've gotten two responses so far, both similar in nature. I adjusted my latest message.


I just wanted to bring your attention to this petition.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/LumixGH1FirmwareRequest/signatures.html

I've sent it previously, but now 265 people have signed it. Filmmakers are very excited about this camera and with simple adjustments like video out and PHOTO JPEG at 24P you could really excite the market and enable professionals.

Thanks for listening and putting out a great product that has the potential to be even better.

Sincerely,
Isaac Brody

Boz
06-15-2009, 09:37 PM
I've sent your new message as well. That's email #4, still no replies.

chris f
06-18-2009, 11:20 AM
Just signed the petition and sent the message. I just rented a 5D MKII last weekend and would have LOVED the autofocus and better jello control of the GH1. Run and gun on the 5D was almost impossible.

PhilD
06-20-2009, 07:42 AM
Most people don't need live HDMI out.

Panasonic, just fix the high ISO steaks issue and it will be a huge step forward.

Isaac_Brody
06-20-2009, 09:25 AM
Most people don't need live HDMI out.

Panasonic, just fix the high ISO steaks issue and it will be a huge step forward.

Actually we REALLY need video out for monitoring solutions on sets. And if you want them to see this message you should email them directly and sign the petition to post your comments. They don't look at this thread.

PhilD
06-20-2009, 06:36 PM
I've already signed the petition but you should check what other GH1 owners are saying in the other threads... other problems concerning people who may not necessarily need HDMI live output. You shouldn't put "priority numbers" on what you want fixed on the GH1 because it's different for everybody... just have a list without any order. Let's start with things that need to be fixed that are fixable (there's a reason they didn't put live HDMI out... the hardware power is probably not there yet, but if it is then they already know how to implement it and they will if they can ).

I think you have to own a GH1 in order to complain. If they're a wise company they'll listen more to current owners rather than "I hesitate between the GH1 and the Mark II and I'll only buy the GH1 if you do this and that" people.

So, please read the other threads and see what owners of the GH1 are experiencing rather than "I want this feature and this feature and this feature otherwise I won't buy it" and add a few bullet points to your list. Their priority should be to fix current bugs rather than add features.

Isaac_Brody
06-20-2009, 07:37 PM
(there's a reason they didn't put live HDMI out... the hardware power is probably not there yet, but if it is then they already know how to implement it and they will if they can).Do you know this for a fact?



I've already signed the petition but you should check what other GH1 owners are saying in the other threads... other problems concerning people who may not necessarily need HDMI live output. The points in the petition were mentioned by GH1 owners. A few weeks ago I wrote to the few people shooting with the GH1 (Kholi, Barry, Phil Bloom) and asked what features the camera lacked from allowing them to fully use the camera as a professional tool. I will say there's plenty of potential professionals who make up a large market and video out is an important feature for them. When on a set it's typical for clients to be huddled around monitors. This is a necessity and at the moment people are watching footage after it's shot which can really slow down a shoot.


I think you have to own a GH1 in order to complain.Hahaha. How long have you been on DVXuser? The reality is that people will always have a reason to complain. The loudest "complainers" are those with cameras that have to deal with lack of video out and trying to shoot around a weak 1080P AVCHD implementation.

The petition is written to try and persuade Panasonic to fix some of these issues. If you think my wording sounds like a complaint then I encourage you to write your own letter to request the features you think would best suit your shooting style.

sirk
06-21-2009, 02:41 AM
Do you know this for a fact?



Fact as much as some Canadian Panasonic CEO confirmed it on a presentation or something (who also said that they used 17Mbit/s because of BluRay compatiblity issues... which might not really be the truth). I read that couple of days ago on Vimeo or another board...

Isaac_Brody
06-21-2009, 03:43 AM
Some Canadian Panasonic CEO? Come on, gotta do better than that. Let's see a link. :) Not saying you didn't read that, just that I'd like to hear where you saw it.

SonicStates
06-21-2009, 03:44 AM
I want HDMI out....and I own the camera

sirk
06-21-2009, 05:08 AM
Some Canadian Panasonic CEO? Come on, gotta do better than that. Let's see a link. :) Not saying you didn't read that, just that I'd like to hear where you saw it.

there you go http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=170901

PaulWM
07-10-2009, 09:38 AM
Just signed.

Paul UK

upshot
08-01-2009, 02:36 PM
The auto gain has to go to... Please let us turn it off!! :dankk2:

Lindenberg
08-18-2009, 05:34 PM
I gave them my .02 cents worth also.

Fixing the 1080P issue makes sense but my gut tells me if they added the other features they would be taking business away from their professional camcorder division. I'm sure somebody at Panasonic drew a line on a piece of paper and told the designers not to cross that line when adding features to the GH1. I do hope I'm wrong with my guess.

I'll be dropping some money on a HD camera soon and being a non-professional I'll only do it once. If Panasonic wants my money they need to add these features soon before the others roll out their next model and gives me more choices.

shzr
09-03-2009, 09:13 AM
Panasonic better add some updates to the GH1 or I'm cancelling my order. They need to add more value to it since the GF1 is now being released.

shzr
09-03-2009, 09:29 AM
Panasonic better not screw their GH1 clients the same way they did with the G1.

Jack Daniel Stanley
09-03-2009, 09:39 AM
Panasonic better add some updates to the GH1 or I'm cancelling my order. They need to add more value to it since the GF1 is now being released.
How about


1080 vs 720
AVCHD vs AVCHD light
A kit lens that is optimized for video and with firmware that's optimized for the kit lens to give it optical quality far beyond it's price
how about 24p (no 24p on F1)
how about a more versatile lens 14-140mm f/4-5.8 vs 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6

Oh wait, it already has all those things over the GF1.

You can have 1280 720p with a lesser codec and lesser lens and no 24p at $900 or you can have 1080 24p, a better codec, and a better VIDEO lens at $1499.

shzr
09-03-2009, 10:32 AM
Its true that the GH1 is a better camera, but I just think bringing up the GF1 to make a case for an update on the GH1 can benefit GH1 owners.

Jack Daniel Stanley
09-03-2009, 10:44 AM
Yes we need a firmware update.

My point was that we are getting what we're paying for already in the current HD market / not getting screwed / there's lots of value there. Compare prices to feature ratio against other HD DSLR's.

It was only 4 years ago that there was no such thing as HiDef that we could afford (no HVX) and I got my DVX for $2700 used on Ebay.

Now we have 1080 24p with interchangeable lenses at $1500.

We really WANT the firmware update. It would be amazing. But I don't see any reason to feel gypped or outraged.

shzr
09-03-2009, 01:05 PM
Jack, what do you use the GH1 currently for since you have access to pro cams? BTW nice GH1 video test on vimeo.

Jack Daniel Stanley
09-03-2009, 01:11 PM
Well I don't necessarily have snap my finger access to pro cams. I'll use it for all narrative work when Red or 35mm would be too time consuming on set and / or not in the budget.

I just shot two shorts with it with professional crew and actors.

To me it's THE camera to OWN as your narrative filmmaking freedom cam. What? No funding? No problem. I have a two lead mumble core thriller that I plan on shooting on the weekends thanks very much (hypothetical example). It does pretty much everything I want imagistically and the rest I can work around.

RieniO
09-18-2009, 05:29 AM
I would like to suggest the following to add to the firmware request:

- Add "push AF" functionality during recording (shoot in manual focus mode but activate auto focus as long as shutter button is half pressed - just like the push AF button on a conventional video camcorder)
- Enable AF/AE lock button during recording

Add these options in menu:
- Focus assist when using push AF: on or off
- Focus assist in MF mode while recording: on or off

JerryB
09-27-2009, 12:47 AM
Does anyone have any updates on where we might continue to send the petition?

fofilou
10-06-2009, 02:39 PM
What do you think about hacking firmware (like Canon 5D) ?

See here : http://magiclantern.wikia.com (http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki)

http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki#How_about_Magic_L antern_for_the_Panasonic_GH1

And see too : http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=4233

DanDOF
10-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Please Panasonic, update the "fly-by-wire" manual focusing with firmware for the 20mm f/1.7 lens.

It takes too many turns to change the focus manually.

Perhaps firmware could add the ability to select the sensitivity level of the focus ring?

Ben_B
10-20-2009, 07:33 PM
Now that Canon has agreed to update 5D mk II firmware to allow for 24p it is more relevant than ever for Panasonic to listen to the demands of their customers...

give us 24pn in 1080p mode and gives us composite out while recording, and improve the codec as much as possible.

shzr
10-20-2009, 08:38 PM
Now that Canon has agreed to update 5D mk II firmware to allow for 24p it is more relevant than ever for Panasonic to listen to the demands of their customers...

give us 24pn in 1080p mode and gives us composite out while recording, and improve the codec as much as possible.


Panasonic, just throw us a freakin bone. Pretty please?

sirk
10-28-2009, 03:51 PM
it's over...

kiguar
10-29-2009, 06:53 AM
Please give as at least instruction manual update, and along shooting tips put some recommendation about avoiding recording wood, grass, leafs and fast movement.
Of course i just kidding, and beside that it's just barking at the moon, we really want some improvements.
Camera is a great peace of enineering artwork, but the final outcome is to fragile.
I'll be happy with heading on dpreview: "Panasonic announced that will try to do their best..."

Nitsuj
10-29-2009, 08:03 AM
I realize this is getting beat to death, but... I'll beat a little more. I sent a link of the petition (plus request for 24p in 720 & 1080 AVCHD) to the Panasonic customer support representative maybe a week ago for the second time since when the petition first was posted. I got a response back today from Panasonic saying, in quote...


Dear MR ********

Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately this firmware is not available.
However this has been requested and hopefully will be available in the
near future. Thank you for contacting Panasonic

Thank You,
Panasonic Consumer Support


This to me seems very promising and maybe ends this forum with answering, "Yes, Panasonic is listening, there just not being very vocal about it." Seems like a pretty positive response.

From another thread by the way. I predict they will throw up a firmware so bad arss that it will have the flip floppers, flippin' and floppin' again... errr whatever.

JerryB
10-29-2009, 10:47 AM
I completely agree. That was a VERY promising e-mail to get and the first sign that Panasonic is listening to it's customers and possibly working on an update. If they improve the GH1 codec a bit and add 24p it's going to make people crazy when deciding between 7d and GH1. My only hope is that they don't just add native 24p to the 1080i. 720p holds up a lot better than the 1080 and it would be a great asset to have native 24p in both.

I'm also going to be highly disappointed after getting an e-mail saying "However this has been requested and hopefully will be available in the near future." and they don't put out some sort of firmware update.

The wait is on.

slinks
10-31-2009, 10:21 AM
was so tempted to switch over to the 7d but mostly so i can match up my friend's 5d more easily but I love my gh1 even tho i wish i can use a monitor with it. :(

Panasonic products have always treated me well comapred to others and i just hope the gh1 can be improved more.

matt9b
11-09-2009, 12:59 PM
Wow, just saw this. As mentioned many times, would be nice if us PAL users weren't excluded from 24p.

Pelerino
11-11-2009, 05:01 AM
I would like to be able to use the flash as a light as well as all these other things, this can be achieved. Also a battery grip that incorporates an XLR input/ blue tooth mics, live hd out, room for another 2 memory cards and an option to use a high end codec. All this can be done - do it!

Camera Expert
11-12-2009, 02:10 AM
Pelerino,
Please tell me you're joking.

It's like I said in another post somewhere, we need to limit what we want of Panasonic.

Jhung
11-16-2009, 02:28 PM
I just heard:

http://43rumors.com/category/panasonicrumors/

I have a very bad feeling we are about to get screwed by Panasonic, not in the form of a firmware update of very small and easily implementable requests, but by a brand spanking new camera by the name of GH5 or whatever that costs $2000 with a kit lens I don't need.

OR, Panasonic redeems themselves and releases a firmware update giving us what we requested in the petition, at the same time their GH_ that is slightly better than its predecessor.

Who knows. I can totally see the former rather than the latter happening. And that would sadden me. I mean, I just got the GH1, and I love it, and in a mere three months it will be delegated to subpar by a camera that has better features and technology so soon after the GH1 just started becoming regularly accessible to consumers (which is in the past two months remember. Since it's release in the spring, it's been nothing but hard to get). This new camera will be a nagging troll in the back of my mind as I make stuff with my GH1, because like many of us indy filmmakers, we can't afford to buy two.

Come on Panasonic, just give us the firmware update, answer our pleas and place the GH1 a step higher than awesome! We've been so patient and loyal!!!

Rayzrsharp
11-21-2009, 12:20 AM
I just heard:

http://43rumors.com/category/panasonicrumors/

I have a very bad feeling we are about to get screwed by Panasonic, not in the form of a firmware update of very small and easily implementable requests, but by a brand spanking new camera by the name of GH5 or whatever that costs $2000 with a kit lens I don't need.

OR, Panasonic redeems themselves and releases a firmware update giving us what we requested in the petition, at the same time their GH_ that is slightly better than its predecessor.

Who knows. I can totally see the former rather than the latter happening. And that would sadden me. I mean, I just got the GH1, and I love it, and in a mere three months it will be delegated to subpar by a camera that has better features and technology so soon after the GH1 just started becoming regularly accessible to consumers (which is in the past two months remember. Since it's release in the spring, it's been nothing but hard to get). This new camera will be a nagging troll in the back of my mind as I make stuff with my GH1, because like many of us indy filmmakers, we can't afford to buy two.

Come on Panasonic, just give us the firmware update, answer our pleas and place the GH1 a step higher than awesome! We've been so patient and loyal!!!

When the new one comes out, simply SELL YOUR OLD ONE and buy the new. OR save up and buy the new one. I'm planning on saving up to buy the new one when its released AND keeping my old one. Lets not forget as stated earlier.... 1080 24p changeable lenses $1500 bucks! This time last year it was HVX200 $4000+ no changeable lenses. If Panasonic never gave a firmware up date for this camera YOU STILL WIN!

Chris Light
11-21-2009, 12:29 AM
When the new one comes out, simply SELL YOUR OLD ONE and buy the new. OR save up and buy the new one. I'm planning on saving up to buy the new one when its released AND keeping my old one. Lets not forget as stated earlier.... 1080 24p changeable lenses $1500 bucks! This time last year it was HVX200 $4000+ no changeable lenses. If Panasonic never gave a firmware up date for this camera YOU STILL WIN!

damn straight.

Camera Expert
11-21-2009, 07:54 PM
February could also be the date that Panasonic announces the camera and even if the date is for the release, the U.S. Market probably wont get it until April and for all we know, it might be extremely hard to get right away just like the GH1 and GF1.

Pelerino
11-25-2009, 03:11 AM
I think the next panny m43 will be an entry level in time for the summer, priced at about £300.

Psynema
11-25-2009, 05:10 AM
F releasing a new camera in 2010, they still just started finishing GH1 orders.

I don't want a new GH2, I WANT PANNY TO F'N GODDAMN RELEASE 2.8 M4/3 zooms...ridiculous it wasn't done at launch. Maybe because the sensor is so small it's harder to do, but damn.

45mm Macro is nice, but IMO it should've been a bit longer, at least 50. I'm passing in favor of the 100mm IS L...

slinks
11-25-2009, 06:44 AM
i just want avchd to bea bit better thats all. all these irregularities can be a bit troublesome. still love the cam tho. I would move up to a gh2 if it came out tho if improvements are made like when they went from dvx100 to dvx100a to dvx100b. ill be a super happy camper.

Psynema
11-25-2009, 08:58 AM
Gh2 wishlist

AGC
Be available

and MORE LENSES

James0b57
11-27-2009, 10:06 PM
Count me in.

Pelerino
12-03-2009, 05:51 AM
So is this going to happen?

Barry_Green
12-03-2009, 09:17 AM
We won't know until it happens.

matt9b
12-10-2009, 04:19 AM
option to use 24p in PAL version.

option to change PAL to NTSC version

ipcress
12-17-2009, 07:45 PM
Hi folks,

Having sent the petition, and bought the camera (and adapters, FD primes, FaderND, rings, CP, etc, etc...!) I thought I'd follow up with a letter- also a good way to attract attention. Comments appreciated, and if anyone has the mailing address for Mr. Ichiro Kitao, GM, Panasonic's DSC Product Planning mentioned in the petition, please post it.


Dear Mr Kitao,

I recently bought a Lumix GH1 (and also own a Lumix LX3, and a Viera LCD HDTV). The GH1 is a great camera, and I'm enjoying exploring its many virtues shooting video. For me, the lack of audio monitoring and the ability to set gain manually has been a big problem. It is incongruous to have such sophisticated video capability, with audio only slightly better than that found on a point-and-shoot. To be able to disable AGC is very important if the camera is to be used at its full potential. The other issues; codec, video monitoring, etc, enumerated in user petitions are important to remedy as well.

More important than any individual features or fixes being requested as firmware updates by enthusiasts (who are your very best advertising), however, is Panasonic's commitment to the camera and its users. Will you make reasonable improvements available via updates as other manufacturers have demonstrated their willingness to do, or will you allow users who have invested in your product to languish, only introducing improvements with new models? If it is the latter, I will sell my GH1 and purchase a camera from a manufacturer who has a demonstrated commitment to support their users.

While seeming to choose a camera, we users are actually investing in a relationship with your company. Panasonic will need to earn our long term commitment by action. The firmware updates thus far were welcome, but do not address the larger issues many of us are concerned with. At the end of the GH1’s ‘product cycle’ when it is time to make our next purchase, users will be looking at Panasonic’s past willingness to correct deficiencies and improve the camera. Do this, and you will win deep loyalty from your users. You have strong competition, and as I regard your products so highly, I sincerely hope you will meet or exceed their challenge. We are all waiting hopefully.

Best regards,

Tony Sigel

John Caballero
12-17-2009, 08:25 PM
We are all waiting hopefully.

We have been waiting and waiting and waiting for a while now. They will deal with improvements to the camera as they are developed. As we have learned we can petition until our fingers hurt but they will do what they will do whenever they want and can do it. Most likely in the next generation of the GH1. In the meantime I am loving what my very own GH1 does today.

JerryB
12-18-2009, 11:00 AM
I agree with both "ipcress" and "john". It was the last firmware update (for the lens) that discouraged me the most. It addressed an issue (autofucus) that not one of the consumers (that I have read on forum, any other website or reviewer) have commented on needing to be improved. Issues such as native 24p and audio monitoring, which with my limited engineering knowledge, does not seem unreasonable to offer in an update (considering Canon seems to be able to do this!!!) It seems that Panasonic is not just ignoring their consumer feedback but has a completely different agenda.

I understand this camera is closer than consumer than prosumer but, it offers so many prosumer functions (manual everything and great image) that it is a definite contender in the prosumer vdslr realm. I think this could affect a small faction (but a faction none the less) of future buyers. I look at Canon and see they listen to their consumers and they improve their camera to the consumers needs (within limitation of course) and then I see that Panasonic who doesn't even address consumer requests or issues and it makes me want to purchase a Canon camera next.

I also agree with John, as of recently, in regards to the Panasonic mentality. They are going to do what they want when they want because the GH1 is not an expensive flagship camera for them and probably takes up only a very small fraction of there profit. With that in mind I try to just be happy with what I have and for $1500 I definitely am beyond happy with the images I am producing.

I do still hope for an update with 24p and audio monitoring though. That would truly seal the deal on this camera.

Barry_Green
12-18-2009, 11:08 AM
If you are expecting new features to be added in an update, I can almost guarantee you to be disappointed. Buy it for what it is, not for what you wish it was. Whether we like it or not, they are under no obligation to make any changes whatsoever. They sold the product as-is, and that's all we as customers have a right to expect it to ever be.

Canon hasn't added audio monitoring or 24p in any firmware update yet. They've said they will add 24p, but it doesn't exist yet, so to hold them up as the paragon of how a company should act seems pretty premature.

Anyway, point is -- no company is under any obligation to add anything new via a firmware update, and historically companies just don't do that anyway. The 5D users got lucky with the manual controls update, something that the Canon product manager says that he would have bet heavily would never, ever happen. New features are reserved for new product introductions, not for revisions to existing products.

seanmcleod
03-02-2010, 05:43 PM
Okay so now Canon announced their new plans for the MarkII update which included some audio enhancements which I'm sure is a bonus to a lot of people using it for ENG style work.

So my question is does this actual announcement, not just a rumor anymore, put any pressure on Panasonic to respond or is it more likely that they will just address these issues in their next-gen model.... obviously since I shelled out for this camera fairly early I would very much prefer an update!

PS I know it's absolutely wishful thinking!

Barry_Green
03-02-2010, 06:05 PM
The 5D isn't in competition with any Panasonic model. GH1 is $1100 including lens, 5D is $3,000 including lens. So no, it's doubtful that a firmware change in one manufacturer's product is going to have much influence on the other's.

PappasArts
03-02-2010, 06:11 PM
Okay so now Canon announced their new plans for the MarkII update which included some audio enhancements which I'm sure is a bonus to a lot of people using it for ENG style work.

So my question is does this actual announcement, not just a rumor anymore, put any pressure on Panasonic to respond or is it more likely that they will just address these issues in their next-gen model.... obviously since I shelled out for this camera fairly early I would very much prefer an update!

PS I know it's absolutely wishful thinking!



I wish they would respond too. I don't believe they will....


Canon on the other hand has been acting out of character with adding features to firmware releases to date. That is just unusual for the most part with these big companies. However it will pay off in the long run. That builds brand loyalty, and that is priceless. Like RED; I feel that they are doing it right, and because of this, people have developed a strong loyalty to RED. Good business practice IMO...

What's really disappointing; is the GH1 is a damn good camera, with a good senor. If they offered a firmware that improved ( if possible ) to the GH1. It would surely make for a good DSLR war between them. However, I'm to practical to believe in that miracle. So I guess it's the GH2 maybe, or we have Canon to go too..



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JerryB
03-03-2010, 10:25 AM
I agree with Barry that the 5D and the GH1 are not contenders and are in a completely different class, but...

I do think the GH1 and the T2i are contenders. I even think, due to price range, that the 7D and GH1 are contenders. These camera were released after the GH1 and offer a lot of things (24fps in 720p & 1080p for example) that the GH1 doesn't. Obviously we are not going to get a higher bit rate or ext. monitoring or anything that puts more strain on the camera processor, but I do think it would be smart of Panasonic to offer a small firmware update offering some extra functionality.

Obviously I can care less if they do or don't give the GH1 a firmware update because I bought the camera knowing it limitations (however silly some may be), but I think it would help to keep sales of the camera up, considering the T2i is cheaper, offers practical filmmaker options like native 24p, and is roughly the same size.

Barry_Green
03-03-2010, 10:55 AM
I do think the GH1 and the T2i are contenders.
Agreed.


I even think, due to price range, that the 7D and GH1 are contenders.
Definitely agreed.


These camera were released after the GH1 and offer a lot of things (24fps in 720p & 1080p for example) that the GH1 doesn't.
Well, no, the Canons don't offer 24fps in 720p. And the GH1 does offer 24fps in 1080p. And, while the Canons do some things the GH1 doesn't (such as monitor output during recording, and pulldown-free recording, and computer-loadable scene files) the GH1 does things that the Canons don't do (such as the articulating LCD, usable autofocus during recording, face detection autofocus, MJPG recording, freedom from chroma aliasing, and my favorite aspect, the live histogram during video shooting). None of the Canons can do any of those things.


but I do think it would be smart of Panasonic to offer a small firmware update offering some extra functionality.
We'd all love that, of course. But it's not like it's an open-and-shut case of the Canons being better, there are many ways in which the GH1 is a substantially advanced camera over the Canons even after their firmware updates.

If they'd just add a robust pulldown-free codec and monitoring while recording, the GH1 would be a hands-down better choice. But that monitoring is so important... just did a shoot for our forthcoming lighting DVD using both the GH1 and 7D, and I used the 7D as the main talent camera solely because of the monitoring issue. The GH1 got relegated to being the wide eye-in-the-sky camera because we didn't need to monitor it.

Unfortunately I don't think those are things a firmware update will be able to address (monitoring and codec bitrate). Those sound like hardware issues to me. I think we're gonna have to wait for a GH2 for those.

JerryB
03-04-2010, 08:13 AM
Completely agree again. GH1 does offer things (that I need) that Canon does not. I had an in depth conversation with a friend of mine who works as a mechanical engineer at a technology development company in Chicago about what could be squeezed out of the GH1. Monitoring and higher bitrate are not going to happen. We can put a nail in that coffin. The camera already gets a little hot when just recording 720p for more than an hour, but...

I do think offering native 24p and the ability to disable AGC would be possible without overheating or straining the camera's processors. These are not make or break factors but would simplify work flows for both the ignorant consumer and the experienced prosumer. Hopefully they will offer this to contend with the Canon line up. I am not holding my breath but I can't see how it wouldn't make economic sense to do so. If the rumors are true and Panny is going to announce a GH2 some time this year then it would be a smart marketing move to offer a few more capabilities in the GH1 to keep sales up till the release of the GH2 (which will probably be during the holidays).

I'm not saying this because I am going to buy a T2i if they don't offer these improvements, but because I am a strong supporter of micro 4/3 and want the GH1 to stay in the limelight a little longer since Canon has figured out how to put stars in every low budget filmmakers eyes.

Arch Stanton
04-17-2010, 04:20 AM
I spoke to a Panasonic rep at the NAB Show that confirmed there will not be a native 24p firmware upgrade for the GH1.

matt9b
04-17-2010, 07:16 AM
I gave up on Panasonic and went to Canon. Much happier now.

kiguar
04-20-2010, 01:15 PM
dpreview announced firmware for GH1 in May. Firmware will include improvements only for autofocus, flash and some minor functions.

Ube
04-24-2010, 12:50 PM
I sent this to Pany's email support line in the hope it's noticed and forwarded to design:

Firmware (new or revision) suggestions:
1. add a Rear Button Lock to the FnButton Set function to avoid accidental press of buttons such as AWB.
2. add a video function that selects only the center 720HD or 1080HD pixel set of the sensor to provide over a 2x zoom in HD video without any loss of resolution

The button lockout would fix an annoyance: I often bump the back keys accidentally, suddenly finding the AWB reset, for example.
The HD zoom gets at providing a full HD resolution image from just the center set of pixels on the sensor, a 2x+ zoom with no loss in HD resolution that would make tele shots longer for sports and nature shots.

ac17
05-06-2010, 09:10 AM
Have you guys seen the GH1 firmware improvements already offered here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=206788

The list of improvements grows daily.

-Now i wish someone would do the same for the GF1!

NOTE: According to engaget, the official firmware update will be avail may 10th, but will NOT improve camera funtions (it improves lens fucntions only).
see here (http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/panasonics-dmc-gf1-gh1-g1-firmware-updates-improve-autofocu/)

robcart
05-07-2010, 07:57 PM
Done and Done.

Ben_B
06-01-2010, 02:40 PM
On the GH1 most of the labeling for the buttons is in Myriad Pro or something similar...except for the DISPLAY button, which is in Arial or Helvetica or something similar. It jumps out like a sore thumb and drives me crazy, and will now drive you crazy too! PANASONIC: Fix it in the GH2, or release a firmware update to.....change the physical text written on the camera....you can do that with firmware right?

Exact
06-01-2010, 03:44 PM
Give me live HDMI in HD while recording .... ;)

Sean Jeong
06-01-2010, 03:55 PM
On the GH1 most of the labeling for the buttons is in Myriad Pro or something similar...except for the DISPLAY button, which is in Arial or Helvetica or something similar. It jumps out like a sore thumb and drives me crazy, and will now drive you crazy too! PANASONIC: Fix it in the GH2, or release a firmware update to.....change the physical text written on the camera....you can do that with firmware right?

Maybe I just have a bad eye for these kind of things but all the fonts look the same to me.

Cieloent
06-01-2010, 05:34 PM
Fix the crop factor, imo 2x is way too much. Also please give us true 1080p without pulldown removal. Give us a "better" codec, fix the "mud" issues and last but not least give us better low light capabilities and live monitor output in HD.


The Gh1 is a great camera but IMO the Canon line is currently better because of these features alone.


Now on the flip side I would love for Canon to fix their overheating issues, moire, file size limit and fixed screen.

Barry_Green
06-01-2010, 08:58 PM
Fix the crop factor, imo 2x is way too much.
They already did. The Cinema Crop Factor is only 1.18, not 2.0.


Also please give us true 1080p without pulldown removal.
tester13 has already fixed that.


Give us a "better" codec
tester13's already done that. 100+ mbps intraframe photo-jpeg

fix the "mud" issues
He's working on that one too.

Christopher Ruffell
06-06-2010, 02:34 PM
First, petition signed!

" Dear Panasonic,

I own this Lumix and it's a wonderful camera, and I'd prefer to be able to use the camera fully. Request for Lumix GH1 Firmware Update that will include the following features, please!

1. Video & audio outputs to enable external monitoring when recording video (HDMI)
2. Allow user to disable audio Automatic-Gain Control when recording video
3. Use of the video codec MJPEG 1080 & 720 24P native recording capability.
4. Use of the video codec AVCHD 1080 24P native recording mode.
5. Improve 1080P AVCHD video codec implementation for high detail scenes!

Thank you graciously! "




tester13's already done that. 100+ mbps intraframe photo-jpeg

He's working on that one too.

If I'm not mistaken, he's discovered the camera maxes out at around 75-80mbps - which is wonderful!

JoeJITSU
06-17-2010, 02:09 PM
This thread now makes me LMFAO!
no need for their firmware nomore. We have "tester13"

Ian-T
06-26-2010, 08:20 PM
I hear you....but it sure would be nice to have it backed by warranty, :)

HDVdiver
07-15-2010, 07:43 AM
This thread now makes me LMFAO!
no need for their firmware nomore. We have "tester13"


I'm not so sure...

mpgxsvcd
07-20-2010, 01:13 PM
Firmware request to Panasonic?

Hire Vitaliy Kiselev.

Isaac_Brody
07-20-2010, 01:24 PM
Hire Vitaliy Kiselev.


Haha. :beer:

Though I think it'd be much better if they just left a nice little backdoor open and a very easy cheat sheet for him to improve on their products.

svecher
07-20-2010, 03:27 PM
[Non-firmware] request to Panasonic -- please take Mr. Reichmann's words (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/GH1-hack.shtml) to heart. Don't kill the golden goose :)



As if mid-June, 2010 Panasonic has been silent on this hack, though certainly they are well aware of it. I would urge Panasonic to embrace this user community enhancement of their product by not doing anything to hinder or stifle it. Canon has done the right thing by recognizing the power of the Internet and the user community to propelling a product (the 5D MKII) to success, and Panasonic would be well advised to do the same.
A GH2 is undoubtedly somewhere on the horizon, and hopefully it will bring the product line to a new level of capability. Hopefully as well it will surpass what the GH1 can do when enhanced with the Tester 13 hack. But in the meantime Panasonic should welcome the enthusiasm that the user community is showing for their product when enhanced and improved by this firmware hack.

edliu97
08-16-2010, 06:41 AM
Firmware request for G2:
1. ability to change in language
2. use of the video codec AVCHD 1080 24P native recording mode

Camera Expert
10-11-2010, 01:33 AM
Here's a firmware request for the GH2.

I do think Panasonic should add 25p because of a lot of complaints.
Increase the bit rate in the non 1920x1080 24p modes like 720 60p/50p.
Add a 1080 60p/50p mode. I can dream can I?



The camera may not be out yet but I couldn't resist.

Benedict
10-13-2010, 03:17 PM
I gave up on Panasonic and went to Canon. Much happier now.Not such a good move, if you ask me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1BMugSQl1I&fmt=37 and, regarding the stock kit-lens, I also side with Mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWK3NSNhH3s
The GH1 with ptool is still worth gold in the videoworld, compared to the 7D or any of the 'DSLR with HD video' Canons on the market today.

Driftwood
12-14-2010, 10:08 AM
And put Auto Focus video mode back into it - why was it taken out? See this http://vimeo.com/17722077

Camera Expert
12-18-2010, 08:45 PM
There should be more shutter speed options. I mean, it can't be that hard to add a shutter of 24 and 120?

joe1946
12-19-2010, 03:32 PM
It looks like firmware version 1.0 has quite a few things missing which will be added later. I like to speculate, let's see what else I think the hardware is capable of which the firmware is limited due to meeting the Christmas market:


Full HD mode at 60p in updated AVCHD spec
Multi-aspect ratio video shooting
Higher than 1080p video resolution? 3.8MP stills come off at 40fps (possibly disabled due to sensor over heating issues or memory buffer limits?)
Higher bitrates (I think we can take that for granted, wait for Vitaliy's patch!)
PAL region 25p (Almost certainly capable, will be enabled in Vitaliy's patch or even future Panasonic ones if they listen to broadcaster journalists and cinematographers)
4-2-2 (GH1 could do it in MJPEG mode after Vitaliy's patch)
Uncompressed HDMI (I have a feeling the HDMI output is crippled to make it compatible with more TVs)


http://www.eoshd.com/content/477-Panasonic-GH2-work-around-enables-HD-video-shooting-with-Lumix-3D-lens

Fotograf
12-23-2010, 07:51 AM
Why do Panasonic dictate that in my GH2 "My Menu" I must have the five most recently used menu functions? This is how they have implemented "My Menu".

I know my favourite functions which I need again and again. But whenever I use a different one, one of my favourites gets lost and is replaced with a rarely used one. This is really a mess!

Meanwhile I have written my favourites on a piece of paper, along with the way to find them deep down in the menu system. I don`t think this is the way a "My Menu" system is supposed to be working.

If Panasonic really think that this automated choice of the "My Menu" items is a good idea, could they please make it an option for those who like it. But please give me the option to choose and save what I want in my "My Menu". Because I know better what I need than Panasonic knows.

london-artist
01-04-2011, 03:15 AM
GH2
1080p25 @ 24Mbps (AVCHD)

FlyingDutchman
01-07-2011, 02:14 AM
I miss one thing quite terribly - that is, stepless Iso at 24 Mbit/s...
I don't understand this policy at all: there they have this great lens, IMO one of the biggest advantages over all other Vdslr competitors (though of course it could be just a little faster, say f2 continuous - I'd buy it for 2k - 3k ;) - and then they cripple this feature like that, that's just too much of a shame...

FD

aloper
01-09-2011, 08:56 PM
I would like the ability to "lock" the controls on the camera...One thing I've noticed when carrying the GH2 with the blackrapid strap...simple nudges from your body can manipulate the controls. A bunch of times now I've brought the camera up to shoot and the ISO selection or white balance screen is on screen. I can half press the shutter to make them go away but it's annoying. What I'm thinking is have a "lock" function you can assign to one of the function keys. It would be a simple on/off switch. When it's "locked", only the shutter and rear dial are active. Pressing the function key again would unlock the other buttons.

dustinash
01-12-2011, 08:16 PM
full time manual autofocus. How amazing would that be with the "focus only with shutter press" while shooting video. You could hit shutter to pull a quick focus and then adjust MF ring to rack. The lens seems capable of this? Why not??? would be AMAZIN...

johnnym
01-13-2011, 04:20 AM
Adjustable aspect ratios


i repeat : adjustable aspect ratios

mr bill
01-14-2011, 05:08 PM
1080p25@24Mbs(avchd) PLEASE!!!

dustinash
01-15-2011, 04:57 AM
What bothers me is that i cant set exposure mode in the custom menus. what the heck good are they? LOVE love love the cam but that overbloated wheel is yuck. At least if I could use them I could shoots still near movies instead of spinning godawful wheel like wheel of fortune.

Also reneabling or writing up firmware to provide full time continuous tracking focus... WOW. that would be stellar. Not as cool as being able to stay slightly constrianed in the wheel of fortune but pretty cool. As cool as a55 impecable autofocus.. thought i like gh2's as well. In many ways more classic 'filmic" acts more like manual pulls. a55 is like a razor on centre focus. When they combine these cameras technologies it will eliminate the shouldermount bazooka dinosaurs from the market. and those little dudes that ran after the cam to pull focus. Theyre gone too.

Dazza
01-15-2011, 09:54 AM
What bothers me is that i cant set exposure mode in the custom menus. what the heck good are they? LOVE love love the cam but that overbloated wheel is yuck. At least if I could use them I could shoots still near movies instead of spinning godawful wheel like wheel of fortune.
You can do that, C1/C2/C3 can be a duplicate of any other position on the wheel and their current settings at the time of saving. Ie I have C3 set to a second manual cinema mode with different settings, C2 is set to P mode with with a histogram, and C2 is M mode with spot metering rather than average. You can even have different function button maps for each custom mode.

Ulisse
01-17-2011, 04:05 PM
1080 25p
shutter speed 1/48
Customizable user menu

kato
01-18-2011, 12:41 AM
AF Tracking in video mode!!!

Ralph B
01-23-2011, 12:16 PM
My number one request is 1080 60P recording.

2) Higher bit rates in all recording modes.

3) Clean, standard video signal out the HDMI (29.97, not 30.0)

4) 720 60P out the HDMI

Dazza
02-05-2011, 06:48 PM
The "Movie" button on the top left of the camera. You have the option of turning it off, why not make it another Fn key instead?

evero
02-12-2011, 09:16 AM
First, I'd like to support:
- 1080 25p
- higher bitrate/encoder quality in 720 50p
- (HDMI) 720p and ETC enabled

Secondly, and this is very critical in my photographic workflow: The limited flash sync speed of 1/160 sec (using e.g. hotshoe radio trigger. I'm not talking about high fp function)

- I really, really hope it can be possible to allow an manual override of the 1/160 sec sync speed limitation. I know this can result in partially lit/unexposed pictures, but all people that would activate this, is also aware of the downsides (and for me it means a lot just beeing able to do this). The benefit of using a faster shutterspeed, especially in mixed light (read: e.g. action photo in early morning/late night, and using flashes to illuminate the action subject). Also, see a better explanation in this forumthread (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=36397097) at dprewiew.

Do you think flash sync "manual override" is possible to implement in firmware, technically?

LC_Digital_Art
02-17-2011, 07:02 AM
Firmware request for GH2.

I believe the most critical of all for the European users is 1080 25p .
Of course there are others that can be updated via firmware , but the lack of 25p is the one that makes me not to buy this incredible camera.

Vitaliy Kiselev
02-17-2011, 10:19 AM
We have collected and formatted list for GH2 here - http://www.gh1-hack.info/wiki/GH2ImprovementsList

roei z
02-17-2011, 11:01 AM
Vitaliy, just wanted to be sure:
there will NEVER a forced AVCHD static bit rate, right? because the codec itself is VBR.
the 25P request means making 25p implemented? or native 25P as the 23.976 it has now?

Vitaliy Kiselev
02-17-2011, 11:05 AM
This is list of desired improvements.
I know that Panasonic have it.

As soon as we'll have unencrypted firmware in our hands, I could tell you that we could do.

allenswrench
03-20-2011, 05:43 PM
Firmware requests to Panasonic for the GH-2:

1. Split the GH2 team
2. Take the part of the team that developed the sensor and the chip, and nominate them for a Nobel Prize
3. Take the marketing, support and all others who crippled the product and fire them (including the ones from point 1, as they clearly can not value their own work)
4. Then carefully read this thread
5. Release the new firmware

As a public (and publicly traded) company, you might want to have someone (at least 1 person) come on here and talk to your customers.
Have a look at the communication at the site of a certain company called RED, where EVERY executive posts and comments. I know you are a huge company and it would be humiliating for even a single executive to chat to a bunch of non-Japanese persons who happen to be your customers, but give it a try.

Then release the GH3 and repeat aforementioned steps.
Thank you and enjoy world domination should you heed this advice (not likely).

Firmware is easy, it is the "ignore" approach that is horrible. In this community, we need something like mp3 was for music industry or divx was for the movies industry.

Kind regards.

evero
03-21-2011, 08:03 AM
Well said

Lee Saxon
03-21-2011, 08:33 AM
The reason Red is better than Panasonic isn't the more personal communication (which would be pretty darn difficult with the massively larger customer base of Panasonic), it's that no one is talking about hacking Red's cameras to remove artificially imposed limitations.

Everything the hardware can do is already enabled (and they're constantly releasing new firmware to push those limits) because Red knows that if you have to give your $1000 camera a purposely gimped codec to protect your $5000 camera, your $5000 camera isn't good enough.

Put another way, if the GH1 was capable of recording 50 MB/s, why didn't it?

On the other hand, you can buy an AF100 and you can't buy a Scarlet, so for the moment, Panasonic still wins. :(

Xoomtell
03-21-2011, 12:09 PM
1080 25p 24mps and I think Panasonic. Could sell thousands xtra of this camera. I would buy at least two myself! And a AF101 after a while. Untill then I'll stick to
My good old hmc151e wich does 1080 25p in about 20mps. If there will be no hack or official firmware update very soon I guees I will consider 7d and this would be a step away from Panasonic. :( I would pay double for a gh2 that was able to shoot 25p....

terabyte
03-30-2011, 04:29 PM
when HDMI is plugged in the ex tele conv and mf focus assist zoom feature are disabled. please make both of these functions work at the same time. I use a HDMI Sony monitor while filming. lower ISO settings.

dimitr
04-03-2011, 04:10 PM
Vitaliy, I'll ask again, sorry) what about activating AV out during video record? I did not find it in list of requests, do you think its completely impossible?
many spasibo's,
cheers
Dimitri

ragnar
04-08-2011, 07:04 PM
Someine suggested I post this here. My GH2's ETC Mode doesn't work anymore in Stills Mode. It does work in the video modes, but not in Stills Mode. I have reset the camera itself but it still doesn't work. Would a firmware updatge fix this issue? It isn't destroying my creativity but it is a feature I would like to work in Stills Mode. Thank you.

Ragnar

LC_Digital_Art
04-10-2011, 12:04 PM
Someine suggested I post this here. My GH2's ETC Mode doesn't work anymore in Stills Mode. It does work in the video modes, but not in Stills Mode. I have reset the camera itself but it still doesn't work. Would a firmware updatge fix this issue? It isn't destroying my creativity but it is a feature I would like to work in Stills Mode. Thank you.

Ragnar

It works . You only have to change the picture size from the menu from L to M or S.

ragnar
04-10-2011, 10:32 PM
I have changed it from L to M and back but ETC in Stills Mode does not work for me. It did when I got the camera, when set to M size, but not anymore.

Ragnar

robbie75vr
04-16-2011, 05:41 AM
I didn't read the 190 posts but if it's not mentioned I suggest the option tu disable digital sharpening filter, artifacts are too visible even with sharpness at -2.

Thanks

robbie75vr
04-16-2011, 05:44 AM
One more problem that i found: when using and external hdmi monitor it's impossible to enter the movie mode and change between 1080i and 720p.
If I set 720p without the hdmi monitor plugged in it works but as soon as I plug the monitor it switches to 1080i again.
So it's impossible to film in 720p with a hdmi monitor (at least that's what happen with my smallhd dp6).

GH1mx
05-05-2011, 08:33 PM
Ready!!! And also i asked for the new firmware file... Maybe with that file we can start hacking our newest models...