HD to MiniDV project, no idea? Help?

[Guest]

Hello everyone, long time reader, First time poster. ;D

I got a call today from a friend that has a small project he shot on HDCAM tapes, and audio on Dat. Timecode is the same and synced on both.

Anyhow, he asked me since I tinker with Vegas if we could edit his HD material. I told him I had no way to get the footage into my system so he suggested doing an "offline" to MiniDV, edit it as Minidv then send an "EDL" to a real post house to "ONLINE" the edit. Does that make any sense? There is a very low post budget, so we want to be able to do as much as we can together.

I have edited alot of non-professional projects on Minidv so thats the fun part, but getting there and then back to HD is a whole new ball game to me.

So has anyone done this? Do I call a Post/Dupe house and send them the Dat and HD tape and they can make a Minidv tape, with I wold think Timecode Burn? Anyideas how cheap (ha ha) that process is?

[Zoomforce]

Yes you need to get your transfer house to burn timecode over the minidv master as your minidv timecode won't by sync'd to the project. As for the back to HD edit, Vegas doesnt really output a AVID EDL as far as I know (i could be wrong) but the logger at your online can type in the cut points as long as you match your Vegas timeline timecode to the burn in code. For a feature its a lot of work though, so be prepared to have an unhappy logger.

[GenJerDan]

If EDL means edit decision list, the docs say Vegas has one...but it's not like anybody else's.

[Zoomforce]

yeah I remember sony emailing me about that, and saying they have a CMX script that will output a more "standard" EDL but I think that was for version 4, I cant see it on version 5.

[David Jimerson]

That *is* a disappointment. Didn't Sony create the CMX?

[J_Barnes]

That *is* a disappointment. Didn't Sony create the CMX?


HA! I guess few people here have had the distinct pleasure of online tape-to-tape editing. (unless david was joking)

http://www.sssm.com/editing/museum/cmx/cmx.html

CMX was THE standard in machine editing for over 15 years and it was it's own company formed by CBS and Memorex, later purchased by Orrox, and then finally by Chyron who stopped production of all products sometime in the late 90's...98?

the CMX EDL was developed by the CMX company for transfer of edits between machines, and it's the default standard all over the world.

That Vegas doesn't natively support a CMX EDL means that it isn't a professional editing platform, and sony should really work to remedy this.

[David Jimerson]

HA! *I guess few people here have had the distinct pleasure of online tape-to-tape editing. *(unless david was joking)



I haven't, but I was.

[J_Barnes]

Well let me tell you, the distinct pleasure of online tape-to-tape was quite similar to the distinct pleasure one gets attempting to run on crutches. I can only guess how much fun it was to edit video with a razor.