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kingsta
05-06-2009, 04:50 AM
I'm about to rent the Canon Lense 70-200 f2.8L so do you think is worth also renting the 85mm f1.2L. Or being the the 70-200 f2.8L can go to 85mm and further its not worth the cost renting and extra lense?? Can anyone tell me whats the difference and will I be missing out on anything by not using the 85mm f1.2L alone ????.. thx..

holyzoo
05-06-2009, 08:24 AM
For 1, I'd say that the difference between 2.8 and 1.2 is noticeable. f1.2 is insanely shallow DOF. f2.8 is no slouch either, but the question is what look are you going for. Other than that, I would assume that the 85mm prime will have the better image at that focal length than the zoom. But it may not be enough quality difference for you to care. How much time to you have to swap out lenses?

Eric Papa
05-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Yes renting is a good idea - you can get high quality EF L series for the cost of lunch.

Go with the 70-200. You wouldn't want to shoot at a 1.2 anyway. It is too shallow for most applications. And technically you are already covering the 85mm range with this lens. Set the 70-200 at 200 and a f4 - the shallow dof is perfect.

kingsta
05-06-2009, 05:03 PM
how far away must the camera be from the subject at full 200mm if I want a portrait shot with shallow depth of field??

booggerg2
05-06-2009, 05:19 PM
What are you shooting? 70-200 are 85L are obviously two very different lenses, and I assume you've gathered that already... You haven't given us any information of what your'e shooting, the environment that you're shooting in etc....

To answer your original question as you've phrased it - By going with the 85L, you're missing out on FOV ranges of 70-84 and 86-200.

kingsta
05-07-2009, 07:13 AM
Sorry I shooting a indoor music video.. So portrait angles wil good blurred dept of field are what I will be mainly aiming for.. Sorry for not stating that first

Eric Papa
05-07-2009, 09:27 AM
Rent the 70-200 L lens. If you can rent another, rent the 24-70 L lens. If you can afford another lens, rent either the 85mm L or the 16-35 L wide angle zoom. I have these lenses and shoot music videos with them.

Eric Papa
05-07-2009, 09:35 AM
how far away must the camera be from the subject at full 200mm if I want a portrait shot with shallow depth of field??

The closer you stand to your subject, the more shallow dof you will get. for a close up 15 or 20 ft

capt3450
05-07-2009, 10:08 AM
Sorry I shooting a indoor music video.. So portrait angles wil good blurred dept of field are what I will be mainly aiming for.. Sorry for not stating that first

For indoor/stage/portraitor shooting nothing can match 85L for both still and video, assuming you can move freely and use your "legs" for zoom in and out.
-capt3450

kingsta
05-07-2009, 05:59 PM
great thanks guys.. I will rent all 3-4 lenses named...and buy them soon after to own..

thx again..

TimurCivan
05-11-2009, 11:07 AM
shockingly the 70-200 2.8L IS USM is as sharp as the primes... its jut not as fast...

Also shocking is the fact that the 85mm F1.8 USM is also AMAZINGLY sharp.... love that lens...

booggerg2
05-11-2009, 11:38 AM
For music video.. definitely get the 70-200 L .. much more versatile than the 85L... plus, for video, you don't really want to use less than f/2.8 anyways because it would be too difficult to track focus..

Solsounds
05-15-2009, 10:58 AM
You wouldn't want to shoot at a 1.2 anyway. It is too shallow for most applications. And technically you are already covering the 85mm range with this lens. Set the 70-200 at 200 and a f4 - the shallow dof is perfect.

+1

I have a 35 f/1.4, and the DOF wide open looks awesome but it's a B*TCH to get focus right unless your bolted down and have a perfectly still subject.

StormFactory
05-15-2009, 07:13 PM
Since it's for a music video, you have some play.

Other than the extra stop you will not notice the difference between the 85mm f/1.2 and the 85mm f/1.8. Rent the cheaper one and use the money you save on that to also get the 24-70 or the 16-35 f/2.8.

Make sure you rent the IS version of the 70-200 f/2.8. It will make a HUGE DIFFERENCE when shooting video.

Also, if you can, rent a follow focus. Focusing during hand held shots on the 85mm will cause unpretty camera shake.

Good luck!