Shadow wings???

[darkrequiem1134]

I am working on a short, and am trying to figure out a way to make the shadows of wings on a wall behind someone....

an example of what I am looking for is at the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ9HvhteCDc

The wings are at exactly 2:33 into the video. I have been trying to figure this out for weeks. I was originally trying to do this by manipulating shadows...but am starting to realize that im gonna have to create them in after effects. Is there anyone out there who can help me out with this? I want this to look as good as possible so any help would be appreciated...

if anyone has anything that can help, either respond here or PM me as soon as possible.

[FilmBoy77]

i'd like to know as well. looks like the opacity is turned down so the bg shows through slightly also

[brinks]

I would use an animated mask and try different blending modes to find the look you want

[Gillvane]

I am working on a short, and am trying to figure out a way to make the shadows of wings on a wall behind someone....

an example of what I am looking for is at the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ9HvhteCDc

The wings are at exactly 2:33 into the video. I have been trying to figure this out for weeks. I was originally trying to do this by manipulating shadows...but am starting to realize that im gonna have to create them in after effects. Is there anyone out there who can help me out with this? I want this to look as good as possible so any help would be appreciated...

if anyone has anything that can help, either respond here or PM me as soon as possible.

Green screen?

Shoot your actor in front of a green screen saying his lines. Then put a hard light on the background, and use some bird wings to make a shadow on the background and shoot that.

Then, put the shadow and background into the green screen using any old editing software.

[drk3p]

http://bayimg.com/image/iappoaabh.jpg


What is it that you need help with?
The depth of the shot where the wings are displaced on the beams?
The animation of the wings unfolding?

I would say for the depth make a few layers of your wings, one for the back wall, one for the roof, and one for the beams and mask them into those boundaries. Then just scale/sque the wings so they line up but appear to be on different surfaces.

[bimdas]

if you've got photoshop cs4 and have a clean plate of the background, you can create a vanishing point 3d model of the bg, similar but not the same as camera mapping, Then import that into AE, import some wings, animate with the puppet tool and shine a spotlight through the wings to create a shadow over the bg. Change its cast shadows setting to shadows only and then adjust the shadow settings in the spot light settings to taste.

[oneinfiniteloop]

if you've got photoshop cs4 and have a clean plate of the background, you can create a vanishing point 3d model of the bg, similar but not the same as camera mapping, Then import that into AE, import some wings, animate with the puppet tool and shine a spotlight through the wings to create a shadow over the bg. Change its cast shadows setting to shadows only and then adjust the shadow settings in the spot light settings to taste.

You could also do this in AE with white solids in 3D. Set the blend mode to multiply and only the shadows will show up.

I'd probably draw my wings in Illustrator, break apart where need be so that I can animate them realistically, then bring that into AE and animate the wings opening in one comp then drop that precomp into my main comp and use some sort of distortion filter to simulate the shadow falling on the wall, then blur and multiply and lower opacity.