View Full Version : How can these Tonika / Nikon lenses work with the EX3
Honker
04-26-2009, 04:12 PM
Hey Everyone!
How can I use these lenses with the EX3? I know these are still camera lenses, but I know there is someway to attach them!
AF MICRO NIKKOR 60mm -
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20001.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20002.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20003.jpg
TONIKA AF 28 - 70
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20006.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20010.jpg
NIKON AF MICRO NIKKOR 105mm 105mm
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20011.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20012.jpg
TAMROM 28 - 70mm 52 Japan
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20013.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20014.jpg
TOKINA AT-X AF 400
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20015.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20016.jpg
http://gonercity.com/lenses%20018.jpg
I would really appreciate it! Thanks guys!
The answer is only a few posts down
http://dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=169325
Honker
04-26-2009, 11:09 PM
Cool!
I saw that connection, it looks great! I'm just hoping someone could tell me if those specific mounts (I added photographs of the model, and connection) can work with that adaptor, or another adaptor-
Thanks everyone!
Its a Nikon F mount adaptor so all lens designed to mount on a modern Nikon SLR/DSLR will mount using it.
Steve Shovlar
04-27-2009, 02:43 AM
Hi Honker, yes those lenses will work perfectly on the Adaptimax.
The great thing about Nikon is that they haven't changed their mount in many years, so nearly every Nikon lens out there will work with the Adaptimax.
If you have Nikon DX or G Series the Adaptimax Plus is the one to go for, or if you have lenses with external aperture rings, than the original Adaptimax will work just fine, and save you a bit of cash. Nikon lenses with external aperture rings will work perfectly on either Adaptor, so if you are considering buying DX or G series lenses in the future, go for the Adaptimax Plus.
Hope that helps!
EIREHotspur
04-27-2009, 04:56 AM
Thats a great deal.....impressive results and certainly is one on my "To Buy"s list.
Anyone got the Holy Grail of a lens to go on the end of these adapters of that Nikon range??
Holy Grail? That will depend on your shooting requirements. Wildlife shooters might want something like the 200-400 F/4
Personally I'd want to be wide but shallow DOF so something like my 17-35 f/2.8 would be a good start, though my 14mm f/2.8 would be a nice choice too giving about 75mm on an EX3.
Steve Shovlar
04-27-2009, 05:40 AM
Remember you get X5.4 magnification, so wide lenses are pretty much covered by the PMW-EX3 stock lens. Where the Adaptimax comes into its own is with Macro and telephoto.
A 105mm 2.8 Nikon Micro would be a fantastic lens to own. You get amazing macro shots, and at the other end its a 540mm telephoto!
The 200-400 F4 Guy mentions is also a brilliant lens, and on the Adaptimax becomes a 1080-2160mm lens! Fantastic for wildlife but a good tripod is essential unless it's a calm day.
But the EX lens can't get those shallow DOF that your adaptor could get with a wide f/2.8 lens at 2.8 :-)
thefilmaddict
04-27-2009, 12:59 PM
I am a little confused by these screw on 35mm still lens products. Unlike full systems, they don't have a flip, they don't vibrate or rotate (am I wrong?). Does this cause a flipped image and ground glass grain in the image?
Steve Shovlar
04-27-2009, 03:53 PM
I am a little confused by these screw on 35mm still lens products. Unlike full systems, they don't have a flip, they don't vibrate or rotate (am I wrong?). Does this cause a flipped image and ground glass grain in the image?
They have no affect on the quality of the image. The Adaptimax doesn't flip the image, so when you attach a Nikon lens to the EX3, the image is still the right way up. There are no optics or moving parts. It just allows nikon lenses to be moounted on the EX3 to open up a whole new area of film making. Good quality Nikon lenses give a superb image, no vignetting, sharp as tack edge to edge.
The downside, or upside for most fim makers point of view, is that using the Adaptimax means that you get a magnification factor of X5.4. Its not so much magnification, but the EX3 sensor only using the middle part of the image. So a 100mm lens suddenly becomes a 540mm telephoto, a 200mm a 1080mm, and so on. That bird in that far tree suddenly fills the whole frame.
The Adaptimax also gives quite stunning macro. If you own a 55, 60 or 105mm 2.8 macro, the close ups this setup gives will blow you away. There's a short one minute clip of some macro footage taken with the Adaptimax and a 55mm 2.8 macro on the website listed in my signature.
So what you actually get is macro and telephoto, on top of the EX3 stock lens, for a very small outlay and those Nikons you might have laying around in the cupboard you thought you might never use again.
haha, you know what you need to add to your adaptor?
An internal IR filter!
PS: Not saying your samples showed any IR problems
I don't want an EX3 but you're really making me with the EX1 had a detachable lens mount (like the Z7 does).
MitchLewis
04-28-2009, 08:08 AM
I've "heard" that the f-stop also get's "magnified" with this adaptor. Is this true?
For example, an 50mm f/1.4 would become a 270mm f/7.5. Right?
Steve Shovlar
04-28-2009, 08:34 AM
No that's not right. Are you kidding me? ;)
Guy, I owned the Ex1 and then went on to the EX3. best move I made. the EX1 is great but the EX3 is much greater. The detachable lens is just one of the many reasons why I prefer the EX3.
MitchLewis
04-28-2009, 08:51 AM
I'm glad to hear that Steve. I guess I was missinformed. (I wasn't kidding, but I'm glad you cleared that up) Thanks! :) (I'm even more interested in purchasing one now)
Steve Shovlar
04-28-2009, 09:32 AM
Tell you what Mitch, if you buy one, and don't like it when you get it, send it back and I will refund you no quibble at all. (as long as it is in the same condition as its sent to you)
I can't be fairer than that. I am so sure you will like it though!
Cheers
Steve
MitchLewis
04-28-2009, 10:50 AM
Thanks for the offer Steve. I hope it didn't come across like I didn't believe you? That wasn't my intention. I just wanted to clarify a question I had by going to the source.
I plan to buy one of your adapters, but I'm not sure when that will happen. I just got back from NAB and I have a huge list of stuff I need to buy (wireless mic's, lights, slider, software, etc...)
Honker
05-03-2009, 03:44 PM
The downside, or upside for most fim makers point of view, is that using the Adaptimax means that you get a magnification factor of X5.4. Its not so much magnification, but the EX3 sensor only using the middle part of the image. So a 100mm lens suddenly becomes a 540mm telephoto, a 200mm a 1080mm, and so on. That bird in that far tree suddenly fills the whole frame.
wait, so the lenses I asked about in the first post, wont give me the same image, as if im looking at them through a still camera?
Steve Shovlar
05-04-2009, 02:42 AM
wait, so the lenses I asked about in the first post, wont give me the same image, as if im looking at them through a still camera?
If you want the same image you get out of a stills camera, you will need to buy a 35mm adaptor like the Letus, Brevis, Redrock, SG Blade etc.
The Adaptimax allows you to put Nikon lenses on your ex3, but you get a magnification of approx X5.5. So a 100mm lens becomes a 550mm lens, or a 300mm becomes a 1620mm super telephoto. Great for wildlife. Alternatively a macro lens gives amazing closeup shots.
It works this way because the image projected by the lens is much larger than the half inch sensor oon the EX3, so it only records the middle portion and therefore the image is "magnified".
In between the stock EX3 lens is really good and covers the middle ground. So with an Aaptimax you cover all bases. Its not designed to work the ame way as a 35mm adaptor. Its a totally different type of adaptor which gives you shots impossible to acheive with the tock EX3 lens.
Honker
05-05-2009, 10:07 AM
Ahhh alright! Yeah I checked out the website, and they look great!
Though I now have a question-
What kind of adaptor is out there, that I can use to get the full effect of my nikon lenses that I stated in the first post? I know you said a 35mm adaptor, but which one can actually mount the lenses I posted?
Ty!!!
MitchLewis
05-05-2009, 10:12 AM
I think all the 35mm adaptor manufactures make a mount for Nikon lenses. You just need to pick which manufacture/model to go with. You'll need to weigh the pros/cons.... Do you want a fixed ground glass (Cinemeek), do you want vibrating (Letus, Cinevate and others), do you want a spinning ground glass (Letus Ultimate, I think someone else makes one too). Do you want low light loss? Flipped image? Small size/weight? Cost? None of them offer all these options. You'll have to weigh which things are most important to you. Personally I would look at the Letus Ultimate, Cinemeek, Red Rock or Cinevate products as they seem to be most widely supported by the indi community.
Honker
05-05-2009, 01:30 PM
Personally I would look at the Letus Ultimate, Cinemeek, Red Rock or Cinevate products as they seem to be most widely supported by the indi community.
thanks Mitch!