3-D Glasses Plugin

[ramsaur]

Anyone know of a plugin where you put the 3-D Glasses on and everything becomes 3-D? I do have one plugin called 3-D Glasses but it's not the one I need. It's the old 3-D style with Red and Blue. I'm studying 3-D and learning how to make them. I'm trying out a lot of new styles of filmmaking this year and 3-D is on the list.

I'm not looking for these type glasses and image:
http://elearning.kern-comm.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/solution.jpg
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/6685814268392236.JPG

I'm looking for the way 3-D is made.
http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/upimg5%5C3D-Glasses_161465.jpg

And a screen shot I found. If you notice the characters are two like the red and blue but no color. Like taking two of the same and putting them a little a part from each other.
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0901/3d_ad_0129.jpg

I watched Monsters vs. Aliens Today in 3-D and looked great. I took my 3-D glasses off a few times to notice how the new 3-D looked. So I'm trying to figure the new 3-D out and not the red and blue. Now their might not be a plugin so maybe anyone know of any tutorials or DVD's or websites that can help me out?

[Tokarsky]

I only know how to make a red/cyan 3D image/video, no clue on the other type. Even the red/cyan i dont belive is REAL 3D even, I'm under the assumption that even that is stereoscopic... I may be incorrect on that bit of information too... If you do figure that one out though, let me know how you got it to work, I'm interested in see where you end up with it...

[roberts2424]

Have you contacted via e-mail or phone RealD Cinema? (http://www.reald.com)

[btownproductions]

If you do a google search for stereoscopic there's a lot of information about it. I was interested in giving it a try as well, but to do full colour 3d, there's A LOT of work you need to do, and you really need to know what you're doing.. the red/cyan type would be a lot easier since the full colour type involves special projectors and prism-like 3d glasses and what not. There's a few different ways it's done, I believe one of the more popular methods involves interlacing 2 different frames for each single frame, with each containing a shot from a slightly different angle, making the image stereoscopic. and somehow the angle of each lens in the glasses seperates the two (I forget exactly how it works), but a quick google search will get you a lot of information on how to do it.

[ramsaur]

f you do figure that one out though, let me know how you got it to work, I'm interested in see where you end up with it...
Will do.


Have you contacted via e-mail or phone RealD Cinema? (http://www.reald.com)
No have not and good idea. Thanks.



If you do a google search for stereoscopic there's a lot of information about it.

Thanks!! I think you have really helped me out. That word is what I needed. I'm going to be doing a lot of research here soon and see if I can get a 3-D movie going.
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But can anyone answer this question. I'm having trouble trying to figure out the answer myself.

I watched this video about the new way of 3-D:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-241532803911842846

It had some 3-D clips / footage and I still have the new type 3-D glasses I was given at Monsters vs. Aliens and I put them on and nothing popped out of the screen. I want to guess because I need to have the actual projector for it actually work?

[btownproductions]

It had some 3-D clips / footage and I still have the new type 3-D glasses I was given at Monsters vs. Aliens and I put them on and nothing popped out of the screen. I want to guess because I need to have the actual projector for it actually work?

In this video he explains that you won't actually be able to experience it without being there because you're only viewing it with 2d technology. If you look in the back of the theatre he's in, you'll see that there's 2 projectors showing one movie... and the polarized glasses he's wearing have each lens on a different angle so that each eye intercepts a seperate image (say, for example, the left lens would allow your eye to see the image from the left projector, and vice versa for the right lens)

[ramsaur]

yea when he said you won't be experiencing it at first I thought he meant because you, yourself do not have 3-D glasses. but I got it.

And yea I saw the projector and how the camera works. I'm figuring all that out now. Thanks.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

the new kind is pretty simple in application
you have a polarizing filter on each camera or view, adjusted to different angles. The glasses are polarizing lenses that are adjusted to the same different angles for left and right.
That's the application.

Here's the theory, which I probably won't be very good or accurate in explaining:
a polarizer is applied on the vertical axis on one camera and the horizontal on the other (basically I think)
the glasses have one lens polarized vertically and one horizontally

so instead of color it's just a different way to separate each side of the stereoscopic view.


if you've never used a polarizder, it's a slightly tinted looking glass that changes the way light reflects (basically, I think)
but the physical effect is this: you're shooting the surface of clear water, all you see is reflection, rotate the polarizer to a new axis, suddenly you can see through the surface of the water and see the fish beneath. Same with a window, with the polarizer turned one way you see your own reflection / camera in the window, turn it to a new axis and you see through the window. Want the sky bluer? Turn the polarizer and it will pick up the relfected blue. So basically, because of this you can have it adjusted one way for one camera / eye and the other way for the other camera / eye, then when you wear the glasses each eye can distinquish each side because the light comes in at different angles (basically, I think)

[btownproductions]

the new kind is pretty simple
a polarizer is applied on the vertical axis on one camera and the horizontal on the other.
the glasses have one lens polarized vertically and one horizontally

But projecting it in a way that you're able to seperate the two shots with each eye off of a single screen is another story altogether...

I don't want to hijack this thread or anything, but has anyone here seen "My bloody valentine 3-d"? I haven't seen it yet, but I heard while the story was terrible, the 3-d was amazing to watch in it!

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

But projecting it in a way that you're able to seperate the two shots with each eye off of a single screen is another story altogether...

Is it? How is it different than the red and green method.

Red eye follows camera view assigned to red.
Green eye follows camera view assigned to green.


Horizontally polarized eye follows camera view with horizontal polarizer.
Vertically polarized eye follows camera view with vertical polarizer.

You set the camera at a certain distance apart so they have different views, then you overlay them somehow. The only real mystery to me seems top be exactly how far apart the views should be / how offset each view should be. And then yeah, not sure how you would composite them, which I guess is what you are alluding to. But it seems like it could all be done with a basic NLE and two cameras if you know the distance to place the cameras apart and how to composite the footage.

[btownproductions]

I just mean due to the fact that you are projecting 2 seperate images with the same colours onto one 2-d screen. Yes, the red/greed way is pretty straight forward. From what I've read for the full colour 3-d, all they do is interlace the two shots together into one frame, but how do the glasses seperate the the image off of the screen? The screen itself isn't polarised so that it sends each image off at a different angle so that the polarized lenses will pick them up seperately. I think the real magic is in the technology the projectors use... Again, I have limited knowledge in how this works, I just know the basic principals behind it from the little research I did into the subject a while ago..

[btownproductions]

Taken from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy

A very informative article on the history/technology behind steroscopy

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stereoscopy&action=edit&section=9)] Linearly polarized glasses

Main article: Polarized glasses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarized_glasses)
To present a stereoscopic motion picture, two images are projected superimposed onto the same screen through orthogonal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal) polarizing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization) filters. It is best to use a silver screen so that polarization is preserved. The projectors can receive their outputs from a computer with a dual-head graphics card. The viewer wears low-cost eyeglasses which also contain a pair of orthogonal polarizing filters. As each filter only passes light which is similarly polarized and blocks the orthogonally polarized light, each eye only sees one of the images, and the effect is achieved. Linearly polarized glasses require the viewer to keep his head level, as tilting of the viewing filters will cause the images of the left and right channels to bleed over to the opposite channel – therefore, viewers learn very quickly not to tilt their heads. In addition, since no head tracking is involved, several people can view the stereocopic images at the same time.
There are several commercial systems offering products like the above, and one can also put one together by oneself using instructions on the GeoWall Consortium (http://www.geowall.org/hardware.html) site – they refer to such a system as a GeoWall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geowall).

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stereoscopy&action=edit&section=10)] Circularly polarized glasses

Main article: Polarized glasses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarized_glasses)
To present a stereoscopic motion picture, two images are projected superimposed onto the same screen through circular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_polarization) polarizing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization) filters of opposite handedness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality_(chemistry)). The viewer wears low-cost eyeglasses which contain a pair of analyzing filters (circular polarizers mounted in reverse) of opposite handedness. Light that is left-circularly polarized is extinguished by the right-handed analyzer; while right-circularly polarized light is extinguished by the left-handed analyzer. The result is similar to that of steroscopic viewing using linearly polarized glasses; except the viewer can tilt his head and still maintain left/right separation.
The Real D Cinema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_D_Cinema) system uses an electronically driven circular polarizer, mounted in front of the projector and alternating between left- and right- handedness, in sync with the left or right image being displayed by the (digital) movie projector. The audience wears passive circularly polarised glasses.

[j1clark@ucsd.edu]

Anyone know of a plugin where you put the 3-D Glasses on and everything becomes 3-D? I do have one plugin called 3-D Glasses but it's not the one I need. It's the old 3-D style with Red and Blue. I'm studying 3-D and learning how to make them. I'm trying out a lot of new styles of filmmaking this year and 3-D is on the list.


The new 3-D glasses use a projection system that has polarized versions of the movie. Hence, you probably don't have a projector (or TV) that produces the polarized presentation... hence, you may have to resort to the older shifted color, which is something you can produce and display on your monitor...

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Single off the shelf digital presentation projector used to project polarized 3D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X6ryEhnA3A
One thing they said made me want to try something though - they mentioned that current 3D polarized projectors have a special shutter that shows one eye then the other etc., Wonder if you could just intercut left eye / right eye in your NLE, one frame then the other and due to our persistence of vision it would create an overlay effect that would appear continuous and keep the images separate to work with the polarized 3d glasses.

[j1clark@ucsd.edu]

Single off the shelf digital presentation projector used to project polarized 3D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X6ryEhnA3A
One thing they said made me want to try something though - they mentioned that current 3D polarized projectors have a special shutter that shows one eye then the other etc., Wonder if you could just intercut left eye / right eye in your NLE, one frame then the other and due to our persistence of vision it would create an overlay effect that would appear continuous and keep the images separate to work with the polarized 3d glasses.

I'm pretty sure a plug in could do this sort of processing... but then 'seeing' the result would require a projection system, that I don't think has hit the home market yet... well, at least the Costco home theater market...

[chrislancaster]

red has a 3d camera ... i dont know how much it is but im guessing its very very expensive